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**Aryan** · 12-20-2009, 12:36 AM

Query Approved.

**Parth** · 12-20-2009, 12:45 AM

Dude, Are you always online??

P.S. I mean that in a good way.

And thanks for the quick approval.

Also, there is one thing that I forgot to mention in the first post. Tomorrow morning, I'm gonna fill up some fuel in it and see if it still would work. Any takers??

**Parth** · 12-21-2009, 12:26 AM

Guys today I went to a mechanic (who had previously serviced the scooter) and had it back into running position. The guy gave me a bill of 1580 which was as follows:

Battery : 750
CDI : 340
Brake shoes (both rear and front) : 240
Labour :250
TOTAL : 1580

I did a little bargaining and managed to take it to 1500. Also 120 bucks worth of petrol was spoiled due to some water in the tank (although he did salvage some fuel and said it was around 500 ml but I doubt that). He also asked me to buy some nut bolts worth Rs20/- and some thinner for cleaning the carburetor for Rs10/-

So I got the KiHo back into running position for 1650/- . A reasonable expense or was I overcharged??

**pk28.karthik** · 12-21-2009, 11:01 AM

the price which has been charged seems to be ok. But you should have given the KiHo a complete service along with the things you got it replaced.

regarding the wheel rim, you cant remove the bend but will have to use a new rim which costs around 450 for pair.

**Parth** · 12-21-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by pk28.karthik View Post

the price which has been charged seems to be ok. But you should have given the KiHo a complete service along with the things you got it replaced.

regarding the wheel rim, you cant remove the bend but will have to use a new rim which costs around 450 for pair.

well i am a little short of money at the moment as i've got to do a lot of saving for my bike. hence the full service might come later.

Also, regarding the bent wheel the mechanic said to me that whenever there is a puncture, the local puncture wallas use hammers and stuff to take out the tube which bends the rim a little. So if the rim is gonna end up bend eventually, then why put 500 bucks more into it??

Also, today morning when I thumbed the starter the engine did not start and I had to kick start it(thank god it worked.....this was the first time I had used it's kick!!). I thought it was due to the cold whether and after the engine warms up the electric start will work. But at a red light I stopped the engine and then tried to start it but it didn't work. Well the kick did come into use but Right now I'm in the office and a little worried that I'll have to take it back top the mech in case it doesn't fires up in the evening too.

**pk28.karthik** · 12-21-2009, 04:17 PM

complete servicing was cleaning the carb,filter, checking the brake shoes and checking the electricals of the KiHo. Adviced it since it was not being used for few years.

And make it a point always to kick start your KiHo early in the morning or whenever you are starting it for the first time in the day and idle it for some time then proceed to your destination.

Common problems with this bike is the Auto Choke fails to work sometimes. so next time when you visit mech get that checked as well.

**Parth** · 12-21-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by pk28.karthik View Post

complete servicing was cleaning the carb,filter, checking the brake shoes and checking the electricals of the KiHo. Adviced it since it was not being used for few years.

And make it a point always to kick start your KiHo early in the morning or whenever you are starting it for the first time in the day and idle it for some time then proceed to your destination.

Common problems with this bike is the Auto Choke fails to work sometimes. so next time when you visit mech get that checked as well.

Ahh I forgot to add before, the carb was cleaned (with the Rs10 thinner mentioned above), the filter....well the filter was changed on the last service and the kinetic just ran 5-60 kms on the new filter hence I and the mechanic did not think there was any need to change that, I did change both the brake shoes even though the mechanic said that I could manage around 200-300 km's on the existing ones and that he would change them then without any labor charges, Also the electricals seems to be working fine as I did check both i the indicators and the headlamp.

But come to think of it, I did not check if the rear light (brake light) was working or not. Will take care of this tomorrow.

And in the evening when I thumbed the starter, It did not start the engine but when I pressed the horn, the horn was working. So I kick started it again. I don't mind kick starting but it's just that on a kinetic honda, you have to get of it, put in on center stand and then kick start it. Otherwise the kick gets stuck on the center stand and wont go all the way down. Hence I can't switch off the engine on a red light coz I'll have to put it on the center stand before kickstarting it which takes a little time.

Now since I'm going to the mechanic tomorrow morning for the self start not working problem, I'll make sure that He checks the auto-choke too.

Anyways thanks a lot karthik.

Ride safe.

**Parth** · 12-23-2009, 12:37 AM

Alright, so I couldn't get the electric start problem corrected on monday as that was an off. So Today being the next best thing (tuesday

) I went to the mechanic and told him that the bike.....oops "gearless scooter" won't get an electric start but does sounds the horn from the battery.

He quickly diagnosed the problem as faulty brake switches and told me that they cost Rs45 + rs10 labor each. Then He said that I could make it run with only one working brake switch as I'll need it on the time of electric start only. But since in this scenario, Whenever I would use the other brake (without the working brake switch) , the rear brake light won't glow So I asked him to replace both the switches and he did a fine enough job on that.

All that worked out to Rs110 but I gave only 100. After all a nice smile goes a long way.

Hmm guys, earlier I was thinking of using this kinetic honda as a commuting vehicle just till my results come in and I get a bike, and then selling it off. But now I don't think I'll sell it. It's just too easy to ride. Although I love changing gears and stuff on a 'Real' Bike but riding this is just effortless.

Btw: I'm soon gonna check it's mileage to see if it's above 30 or less. Although 30 is what I expect from it.

**pk28.karthik** · 12-23-2009, 11:07 AM

nice to see that the KiHo is running fine and the Self Start fixed.

i would second the opinion of not selling the scoot, one reason is good use while going for shopping groceries and stuff from market. easy to ride in traffic but i would suggest you buy a commuting bike soon cos this scoot is not worth commuting throughout the day in city which can give you back problems and might even burn your pockets for fuel bills.
Yes Kiho will give you mileage between 30-35/ltr.Dont ask the mech to tune to phull mileage, that will not work out.

check for the clutch belt for the sag/wear and tear. if possible change the belt and check if the belt is working fine with the sudden throttle(the belt between the plates have to release or tighten as per the throttle). And also the spark plug(change if needed).

**Parth** · 12-23-2009, 10:24 PM

nice to see that the KiHo is running fine and the Self Start fixed.

i would second the opinion of not selling the scoot, one reason is good use while going for shopping groceries and stuff from market. easy to ride in traffic but i would suggest you buy a commuting bike soon cos this scoot is not worth commuting throughout the day in city which can give you back problems and might even burn your pockets for fuel bills.
Yes Kiho will give you mileage between 30-35/ltr.Dont ask the mech to tune to phull mileage, that will not work out.

It's giving me a horrible horrible 20-22 km/ltr!!......And ya you're right about the back aches...especially in the lower back area...my spine is killing me these days.

check for the clutch belt for the sag/wear and tear. if possible change the belt and check if the belt is working fine with the sudden throttle(the belt between the plates have to release or tighten as per the throttle). And also the spark plug(change if needed).

Alright this sunday there's gonna be another trip to the mechanic for checking of the clutch belt. Any more pointers to get a better mileage?? I'm not riding rash, keeping 40-50 sortta speeds isn't rash now is it? and also switching off the engine on red lights of over 25 secs duration and using the kick starter most of the time.

And karthik I wanted to ask something more. When I first took the kinetic to the mechanic for starting after 1.5 years, He said the battery and/or the kick lever will have to be changed. I asked why. He said that the battery would be dead after not being in use for such a long time and the kick isn't any good coz it's not coming back up after I kick it down. So I asked him to change the battery only. Then the kick had to be used as the battery won't fire due to faulty brake switches and the kick worked fine. Now this evening when I tried to fire it when I was at my workplace via the kick, It didn't start. I tried 5-6 times but to no avail. Then I got frustrated and thumbed the starter. It did work and I went off. But now I'm in the dilemma as to whether or not try to kick start it in the morning as in if trying to kick start a faulty kick could damage other parts attached to the kick. Any enlightenment in this regard??

**Parth** · 12-24-2009, 09:09 PM

Also If anyone could tell me what sort of petrol to use ,i.e. 2T mix or regular that would be good.

**Parth** · 12-28-2009, 12:49 AM

Guys any inputs????? I'm getting a horrifying average of less than 22 kmpl while I'm keeping it under 55km/hr. Is that normal?? What can I do to increase the average??

**angelo_co** · 12-28-2009, 01:34 AM

The kinetic uses normal petrol. there's a separate tank for 2T oil. It's nice to see someone trying to get the kinetic in running condition. I have a 23 year old kinetic too.

**Parth** · 12-28-2009, 01:48 PM

Brother what to do about the mileage thing?? I'm not getting anything above 22 kmpl.

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