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  • [Help]: Buffing vs Nickeling?

    I am going to get my (black) Bullet 500 repainted. I'll probably get it painted black again as I think it looks best.

    A mechanic quoted 2000rs to repaint the whole bike. Is that a fair price? I've seen the paintjob he did on another Bullet and it wasn't bad. Also will I have to buy new badges for it? It would be best to do that right, not just paint around the old ones...

    He also quoted me 2500 for nickeling the whole bike (well the chrome parts anyway). However after seeing the nickeling he did on another Bullet, there is no way I'm going to let him do that. It is much too shiny and looks very cheap. Basically cheapens the look of the whole bike. From what I have seen, a proper buffing brings it up much more nicely. Would there be a price difference for buffing instead of nickeling? Surely there would be alot more labour involved if you buff it?

    I will be getting this done in Mathura and this is the only half decent Bullet walla I've found, do you think he is quoting me fair prices?

    Also what is your opinion on having black metallic paint on a Bullet 500? It was originally a normal (matte?) black so I'm not sure I want to change it, but it will probably look much nicer with a metallic paintjob.

    Thanks for your help.

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    • #3
      The cost of the paint job sounds decent, provided he will be removing the original paint, and then layering the new one.

      Also try and find a good chrome plating unit there. You can get all the parts chromed/nickel yourself for cheaper, and in about 2-3 days.


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      • #4
        Metallic black sounds good, the new TBTS also has a metallic shade.
        Don't forget to get a lacquer coat done after the paint.
        I second jd's advice-get the chroming done outside if it is really needed.
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        • #5
          reDo....

          Well as per my view the paint job is bit at cheaper side so don't know whether
          he is pro or not...but about chrome.
          dude, trust me these chrome plating people way away from actual process.so don't damage your pocket for sure.
          1. aluminum can't get coated by chrome. it starts peeling.
          2. aluminum need base agent called copper.
          3. on aluminum if you do copper plating then it will never peel off. n then if u do chrome on copper then it will never go away... but direct plating on aluminum will never work for long...
          4. best is buffing.
          5. and for existing chrome u can use lime powder (FINE CHUNA powder, the density should be very much fine)
          just rub the dry powder on chrome plated spares with soft cotton cloth. it will start shining quickly...REMEBER the powder should be very much fine and use only cotton cloth...
          Last edited by Chinmay Dangre; 12-31-2009, 09:31 PM.
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          • #6
            Well I'm planning to get it buffed. In the future, when I get more accustomed to working on the bike, I'll find a professional place and take the parts off that I want chromed and get them to do it properly. Until now buffing looks much better than the nickeling they do.

            As for the paint, I'll probably just get him to do it for now and see how it turns out.
            As it's so cheap to get it done, it's not a problem to find a better place in the future if I need to have to repainted.

            While we're on the topic of fixing up my bike, what is the use of a killswitch? My Bullet just has the ignition switch, whereas all the others I've seen have a killswitch as well. Can/should I get a killswitch installed? If so, why?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chinmay Dangre View Post
              1. aluminum can't get coated by chrome. it starts peeling.
              2. aluminum need base agent called copper.
              3. on aluminum if you do copper plating then it will never peel off. n then if u do chrome on copper then it will never go away... but direct plating on aluminum will never work for long...
              thanx for the technical info...it was really useful. i'll do it that way

              Originally posted by jd666 View Post
              try and find a good chrome plating unit there. You can get all the parts chromed/nickel yourself for cheaper, and in about 2-3 days.
              hey jd!
              where do i find a good electroplating unit in delhi-NCR to get some parts chromed
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              • #8
                you will have to search in mayapuri industrial area. thats your best bet. if i locate any in delhi, i will let you know. Otherwise there is a complete electroplating sector in faridabad, where all this can be done.


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                • #9
                  thanx a lot jd
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                  • #10
                    What is electroplating? I have my parts nickeled in the end. Looked pretty good but it isn't lasting. Even though I keep polishing them and stuff to try and keep them nice.

                    Is electroplating like what they do with the exhaust pipe? That is like a permanent coating that doesn't get effected very easily.

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                    • #11
                      ^^ parts getting nickeled is electroplating only. It depends on the quality of chemicals and the process used, and also the amount and type of chrome deposited on the metal that determines the finish. Im yet to see an alternative to the company chrome, unless the job is done for a vehicle restoration or rebuild by people who know what quality chrome finish should be there.


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                      • #12
                        I'm waking up this thread in the interest of obtaining more detailed info on chroming.
                        Chroming Source - Chrome plating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                        In accordance to the above source, looks like the metal will be grinded for all pits/ protrusions/ unwanted metal material & to smooth unwanted edges, so does that mean, when I chrome some metal I lose the hardness of that material too?

                        The reason why I'm asking is because, I'm planning to get a disc brake wheel hub chromed & during that process, if I might lose the tensile/harness of the metal, then I might be running in risk with the hub.

                        Experts, pls shed your thoughts. Thanks.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          I'm waking up this thread in the interest of obtaining more detailed info on chroming.
                          Chroming Source - Chrome plating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                          In accordance to the above source, looks like the metal will be grinded for all pits/ protrusions/ unwanted metal material & to smooth unwanted edges, so does that mean, when I chrome some metal I lose the hardness of that material too?

                          The reason why I'm asking is because, I'm planning to get a disc brake wheel hub chromed & during that process, if I might lose the tensile/harness of the metal, then I might be running in risk with the hub.

                          Experts, pls shed your thoughts. Thanks.
                          Grinding is done to remove only surface defects. Any deep defects such as pits cannot be ground away without removing too much metal and weakening the part. If the hub is already in good condition then the grinding will be minimal.

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                          • #14
                            ^^^ hmmm, ok, so is there a limit on which all metals can be chromed? I mean, what about alloys? I hope not, right? Yes, the hub is near to perfection, I mean, do damage in anyway, not even a wrench has falled on it.

                            Any idea like how many mm will be the grinding done?
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                            • #15
                              Check this thread:



                              Hisunil did lacquering on his Comet many times. AFAIK, he is the best person to check on this topic.
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