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  • #31
    am now getting to the bottom of this and want to resolve it for sure.
    Could the TPS be a reason behind the problem.
    Was reading this TPS Switch, and could this be a solution to the problem.
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    • #32
      Well well this needs some serious attention..

      My 2 cents of advice from my little experience..

      Head to Majestic Motors near Minerva Circle & get in touch with Mr. Hadi Hussain ( he is the service manager) this guy is very good & understands in & out of almost all HH bikes.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
        Well well this needs some serious attention..

        My 2 cents of advice from my little experience..

        Head to Majestic Motors near Minerva Circle & get in touch with Mr. Hadi Hussain ( he is the service manager) this guy is very good & understands in & out of almost all HH bikes.
        Well, this sounds good. Vineet, you can get in touch with Mr. Hadi Hussain and see what he says.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
          Well well this needs some serious attention..

          My 2 cents of advice from my little experience..

          Head to Majestic Motors near Minerva Circle & get in touch with Mr. Hadi Hussain ( he is the service manager) this guy is very good & understands in & out of almost all HH bikes.
          thanks dude for your valuable information's

          @RAVI@17bhp= thank you Brother
          Last edited by vineeth aredath; 02-21-2010, 11:03 AM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Race_Developed View Post
            am now getting to the bottom of this and want to resolve it for sure.
            Could the TPS be a reason behind the problem.
            Was reading this TPS Switch, and could this be a solution to the problem.
            hi Bro,
            In my case AFAIK, the problem can be due to
            1.a faulty choke cable
            2.a Damaged insulator
            3.a malfunctioning TPS or Airscrew...

            So i hope by this Tuesday will at least find out the core

            What about your DIY work, Did you find anything wrong with the main fold ?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
              hi Bro,
              In my case AFAIK, the problem can be due to
              1.a faulty choke cable
              2.a Damaged insulator
              3.a malfunctioning TPS or Airscrew...

              So i hope by this Tuesday will at least find out the core

              What about your DIY work, Did you find anything wrong with the main fold ?
              AFAIK,you bike is running lean and the carb has to be tuned well to sort out this problem. First, you are running a free flow filter, next, you havent still tuned your bike's carb. Every time you open and clean the carb, the A/F screw has to be tuned for optimum mixture.

              try a couple of things

              1)What happens wen you use choke when the bike is idling ( use the choke slowly)
              2) try tuning the bike your self. Play with different setting and check.
              3) Chuck out the free flow filter and use a stock one or upjet for christ sake
              4) check the plugs to find out whether the bike is really running lean
              5) check whether the throttle has some free play.

              Most importantly, can you really adjust the A/F screw ???

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GP_freak View Post
                AFAIK,you bike is running lean and the carb has to be tuned well to sort out this problem. First, you are running a free flow filter, next, you havent still tuned your bike's carb. Every time you open and clean the carb, the A/F screw has to be tuned for optimum mixture.

                try a couple of things

                1)What happens wen you use choke when the bike is idling ( use the choke slowly)
                2) try tuning the bike your self. Play with different setting and check.
                3) Chuck out the free flow filter and use a stock one or upjet for christ sake
                4) check the plugs to find out whether the bike is really running lean
                5) check whether the throttle has some free play.

                Most importantly, can you really adjust the A/F screw ???

                Hi Bro, i can do adjustment in airs crew but most of the time my preference was some experts,

                free flow filter was installed before some 7,000 Km, even the problem persist with the stock filter

                one thing i would like to know is if the mixture is lean,will the bike touches 140Kmph(speedo read)

                Dude am seriously addicted to the K&N and Don't want to remove it i am really happy to go on with the up jetting But the Problem is there is no good Mech here, searching for one good mech to do upjetting but unfortunately i couldn't find one

                last week During service mechanic informed me that the spark plug is in good condition and can be retained for another 2 or 3k

                Throttle cables was changed before some 12000 kms and there after haven't did any checkups
                Last edited by vineeth aredath; 02-21-2010, 01:40 PM.
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                • #38
                  Vineet, are you running on Free Flow Filter? I did not notice it. In that case, you need to do upjetting and proper tuning. These kind of problems come with all performance airfilters if you do not do upjetting and tuning.

                  With free flow filter, if you do not do upjetting, even if you tune for rich mixture, the bike will run on lean mixture (now your bike is running on more air and less fuel).
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Vineet, are you running on Free Flow Filter? I did not notice it. In that case, you need to do upjetting and proper tuning. These kind of problems come with all performance airfilters if you do not do upjetting and tuning.

                    With free flow filter, if you do not do upjetting, even if you tune for rich mixture, the bike will run on lean mixture (now your bike is running on more air and less fuel).
                    Ravi Bro, yes i have K&N RU0200 cylindrical FFF and i know that its Recommended to do up jetting after installing a FFF But where to do here i don't know any one who will do these things PROPERLY
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                    • #40
                      hello guys...,

                      Today i was hunting the source of gulping sound, so i removed the seat under cowl and the bend pipe that connects the carb to filter and started inspecting the carb closely

                      Now i think the sound is not from the carb but from a tube that is connected to the air box (am not 100% sure)

                      am attaching the pics of the above mentioned tube,

                      i removed the tube from the air box, inspected it closely and confirmed the sound;

                      so Guys please help me to find out the tube name and its use

                      now i just Blocked the one end of the tube that connects the air box and found out a noticeable change,
                      = After Blocking the tube, bikes RPM increased sudddently from 1500 to 3000 and it was stabilized at that point

                      = i tuned the idealing screw and kept the RPM back to 1.5k and noticed that the RPM is constant But once accelerated it takes a lot of time to come down and the Gulping sound still persist

                      =i kept the bike for 5 minutes in ideal RPM and found that there is no Sudden stall of engine and NOW I FEEL SOME IMPROVEMENT IN BIKES CONDITION

                      =guys am really confused now and eagerly waiting for your replays.......
                      Last edited by vineeth aredath; 04-29-2010, 07:24 PM.
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                      • #41
                        Still no answer..
                        I did a little DYI and screwed it up a little..anyways got that fixed but the damn carb is still not behaving as it should....
                        Shame that even the authorised HH service center guys can't do nuts about this.Am complaining to HH everyday to take out my fustration and hope this will bring some solution....

                        I still have all my doubts on the TPS and reading all i can understand to fix it...
                        Any luck and i will update here first...
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                        • #42
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                          Anyways i have ruled out that this is a carb problem.Its got nothing to do with that.The TPS is a complete unit. The problem is now getting serious and 2 new conclusions are:
                          > it could be due to the chain tensioner.
                          >it could be due to the valves.

                          The HH service station sucks (Seghal Automobiles,Faridabad) and should be closed.Its because of people like this that a product gets a bad name.Horrible service....
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Race_Developed View Post
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                            Anyways i have ruled out that this is a carb problem.Its got nothing to do with that.The TPS is a complete unit. The problem is now getting serious and 2 new conclusions are:
                            > it could be due to the chain tensioner.
                            >it could be due to the valves.

                            The HH service station sucks (Seghal Automobiles,Faridabad) and should be closed.Its because of people like this that a product gets a bad name.Horrible service....
                            hey mate last week i met one good mech and manage sort out ma problem to some great extent, it was a faulty Air-screw fittings the screw was not fitting the hole properly n air was escaping threw the hole, with the help of some adhesives we manage to stop the escape of air, now the bike doesn't stall and the rpm is almost normal. so before doing anything with yr chain tensioner and valves have a look at your air-screw may your screw will fit fine in the hole but make sure the air is not escaping threw it.... best of luck
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                            • #44
                              vinit dude i am going to take a karizma r!!!!! after such strange problems in this bike..... u think i should buy one??? please guide me for the proper maintainance if u think its worth taking it bro!!!! sorry to ask u this but i was suggested to take a karizma as its a good bike!!!!
                              LosT in TimE!!!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by nykmeister View Post
                                vinit dude i am going to take a karizma r!!!!! after such strange problems in this bike..... u think i should buy one??? please guide me for the proper maintainance if u think its worth taking it bro!!!! sorry to ask u this but i was suggested to take a karizma as its a good bike!!!!
                                hi bro problems can happen in any of these machines and i wont blame ma bike for any of the things happened because it was not an inherited one,but was the mistake of HH SVC guys(some untrained hand)

                                So if you like Karizma go for it, its a good bike with some great touring ability and still has that incredible look and some nice performance figures too though maintenance cost is a bit high compare to rivals but the long term maintenance figure is really low.

                                One thing i can advise you is never Believe any mech 100% may they have 10 or 20 or 50 years experience with bikes and same thing with the HH SVC i was completely taken away from ma real issues by a HH SVC guy who's having some 17 years experience with HH

                                Keep your bike your own as much as possible try to avoid others using it or let others to use it only in presence of you even it s a SVC guy

                                If you are a beginner then find time to learn all technical aspects of the bike learn how NOT to use a bike than how to use it.

                                XBHP is a very good site where you can find a lot of experts and one can learn a lot of things from here, there is an owner ship experience thread where you can share and read issues related to karizma

                                and before gonna buy one do test ride on P220, R15 and ZMR(hope you did it with Karizma r) as i said before never go and buy one because of someones suggestion,...........

                                BEST OF LUCK BRO......
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