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  • guys, if we keep HIDs on for long distance tours such as 3 hours or so. what effect can it have ?

    the battery will drain faster?

    please suggest best setup for ZMR
    M3:15

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    • done with my projector mod. still have the halogens as of right now.

      next step: coil re-winding

      here's a pic.


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      • Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
        guys, if we keep HIDs on for long distance tours such as 3 hours or so. what effect can it have ?

        the battery will drain faster?

        please suggest best setup for ZMR
        No, you can keep hid running at all the time, hours and days and weeks too if you keep the engine running hile using the headlamps.....
        they pull the same power as halogen does (35w ones)

        Originally posted by xionite View Post
        done with my projector mod. still have the halogens as of right now.

        next step: coil re-winding

        here's a pic.


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        very neat job done...

        really looks great...
        congrats buddy.
        Giving a lot to a fiero.
        Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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        • Originally posted by xionite View Post
          done with my projector mod. still have the halogens as of right now.

          next step: coil re-winding

          here's a pic.


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          Looks great, and different. Why is it golden color? Halos inside? Also, wont you be going for Angel Eyes also? The projector looks kinda small...

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          • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
            very neat job done...

            really looks great...
            congrats buddy.
            thanks. will prolly need input on the wiring/re-coiling work that i'm planning on doing.

            as u know already... my bike's a P18OUGIII.

            i'm looking to run two 35W HIDs simultaneously.
            i've taken off the paring bulbs... coz i just din't want them. (din't want LEDs too)

            what setup do you suggest?


            Originally posted by lijok View Post
            Looks great, and different. Why is it golden color? Halos inside? Also, wont you be going for Angel Eyes also? The projector looks kinda small...
            yup. halos. temp solution until i get the coil prepped for HIDs.

            yea they do look small...
            but that's just in the pic... coz of the angle the pic was taken from.

            they're the same projectors used in a merc E series... standard hella size.

            similar diameter size as the ones on the R1.
            so in no way do they look small... in the flesh.

            and no... don't want angel eyes. looks way too 'aftermarket'.
            and everyone's doing it anyway... so din't want to.
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            • Originally posted by xionite View Post
              thanks. will prolly need input on the wiring/re-coiling work that i'm planning on doing.

              as u know already... my bike's a P18OUGIII.

              i'm looking to run two 35W HIDs simultaneously.
              i've taken off the paring bulbs... coz i just din't want them. (din't want LEDs too)

              what setup do you suggest?


              and no... don't want angel eyes. looks way too 'aftermarket'.
              and everyone's doing it anyway... so din't want
              to.
              the same was my case....

              jokes apart, yes you will need to get coil rewinding done, but keeping both the bulbs on in traffic will cause battery draining issues...

              we can get the work done, I'll ask my coil guy to keep a stator winded with a 18 guage wire for you, so that you can just pick it up anytime rather then opening your stator and waiting for hours to get the winding finished (as other xbhpians have faced), you very well know the remaining drill...

              but as far as the output is concerned, a 18 guage wire with 7 poles winded (your bike's case) works amazing for a 55w bulb, if you had 1 extra pole, there would have been a guarantee that it would support 2 X 35w.

              so lets try it....
              Giving a lot to a fiero.
              Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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              • @xionite Good... that way it will stand apart! Congrats on the mod, and wishing you continuing luck with a proper re-winding work!

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                • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                  yes you will need to get coil rewinding done, but keeping both the bulbs on in traffic will cause battery draining issues...
                  i have no intention of keeping the HIDs on in traffic...
                  or anywhere where there is proper lighting.

                  so i'm hoping the battery will hold up.
                  will be using it on highways and places that are under-lit or unlit.


                  Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                  but as far as the output is concerned, a 18 guage wire with 7 poles winded (your bike's case) works amazing for a 55w bulb, if you had 1 extra pole, there would have been a guarantee that it would support 2 X 35w.
                  so lets try it....
                  well... just thinking out loud here...
                  my bike's got stock 12V 9AH battery.

                  and the stock lighting is as follows...
                  • Headlight: 35W
                  • Parking Lights: 5W+5W
                  • Number plate light: ?W ???
                  • Digiconsole: etc.
                  • switch backlighting: etc.
                  • LED tail-light: etc.


                  i don't have a horn on the bike.
                  negligible saving i know... just thot i'd mention it.

                  so taking into consideration the fact that...
                  i've removed parking lamps and the number plate bulb.

                  which is prolly saving atleast 15W...

                  so that's like what?... 35W+15W = 50W that's usable for the headlight.

                  and since the P22O manages two HIDs with it's stock coil...
                  i'm really hoping the recoiling holds up the 70W on mine.

                  Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                  we can get the work done, I'll ask my coil guy to keep a stator winded with a 18 guage wire for you.
                  P.S: by the way... isn't the re-winding done with 19 guage wire?


                  Originally posted by lijok View Post
                  @xionite Good... that way it will stand apart! Congrats on the mod, and wishing you continuing luck with a proper re-winding work!
                  keeping my fingers crossed... hope everything goes well.
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                  • we'll get rid of the entire stock coil of yours, and 19 guage wire gives lesser amps compared to 18 guage one as 18 is thicker than 19.

                    keep it ON in traffic or not, just hope that it doesn't stay in the DISCHARGED state even on the highways, otherwise it will spoil your battery with time..

                    p220 has 18 poles against 7 poles or your stator, so what it can do is in its own world.
                    Giving a lot to a fiero.
                    Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                    • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                      we'll get rid of the entire stock coil of yours, and 19 guage wire gives lesser amps compared to 18 guage one as 18 is thicker than 19.

                      keep it ON in traffic or not, just hope that it doesn't stay in the DISCHARGED state even on the highways, otherwise it will spoil your battery with time..

                      p220 has 18 poles against 7 poles or your stator, so what it can do is in its own world.

                      @ Xionite,
                      Add to that u can't compare a 18 pole 3 phase alternator with a puny 7 pole single phase one. 3 phase alt is always stable than a single phase so the performance will be out of question.
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                      • Originally posted by lijok View Post
                        @xionite Good... that way it will stand apart! Congrats on the mod, and wishing you continuing luck with a proper re-winding work!
                        And what about the current setup? There's no comments after installing HID? I am more keen on the TCI's response after converting it to full DC.
                        Do it Yourself, what so ever, if Possible
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                        After Market HID Projector Mod for Pulsar 150
                        Flasher Enabled Head Light Flash for Just Rs.1/-

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                        • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                          @ Xionite,
                          Add to that u can't compare a 18 pole 3 phase alternator with a puny 7 pole single phase one. 3 phase alt is always stable than a single phase so the performance will be out of question.
                          thanks for the insight.

                          and i'm guessing the P220 stator coil can't be swapped with the stock P18O coil.

                          and... what about an Ape RR? will it help too?

                          Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                          And what about the current setup? There's no comments after installing HID? I am more keen on the TCI's response after converting it to full DC.
                          the current setup is stock R15 halogens.

                          the light spread is "not very nice"

                          HIDs not yet installed.
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                          • Originally posted by xionite View Post
                            thanks for the insight.

                            and i'm guessing the P220 stator coil can't be swapped with the stock P18O coil.

                            and... what about an Ape RR? will it help too?
                            Its not possible AFAIK, as 180's got a AC ignition coil but on 220 its got a digital ignition so there wont be any ignition coil to fire ur pistons.

                            Here's typical 150/180 coil, Bigger coil with cloth covered is the ign coil which is a must.



                            Here's P220 Stator Coil, note that its not having a ign coil on that.


                            And size wise also its not possible so that part is ruled out.

                            Originally posted by xionite View Post
                            the current setup is stock R15 halogens.

                            the light spread is "not very nice"

                            HIDs not yet installed.
                            Oh, that was meant for Lijo, recently he converted his ride to full DC. Hey man, how was the TCI was performing with the lights on? I know its happy with the current setup else, we would've seen a query on this. Hope everything ok, still I want to hear it from horse's mouth

                            Lijo, how was the Munnar ride with HIDs, share ur views with the different CT HIDs as u & Ashik were having a balanced CT of 4.3K, where Ranjit was screwing with a 6K, how was the visibility? Don't know about others status hence not mentioning it. Atleast u should give a comparison between these two on all weathers as it can help others in choosing the right CT.

                            I heard that the hill top was like a stadium flood lights once u guys were posed for photo.
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                            • @sajan - yeah, my dc setup is running without any problems. Thanks to all of you out there for your help.
                              Regarding the comparo... we didnt do that much in the Munnar G2G. But I can say that the HID with glare cap is quite tame! Hehe..

                              And with my personal experience with 6000K and 4300K HIDs, 4300K is the best. 6000K is ok if you are running in dry weather and the atmosphere is clear... fog, heavy rain etc will render it practically useless.
                              But I guess most of us here know these things...
                              Last edited by lijok; 01-22-2011, 05:48 PM.

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                              • What is CT HID?

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