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    Hi Friends,

    I have a 2004 model Hero Honda Passion Plus which has been working good so far. However I observed that in recent times the pick up has gone bad. When I did show the bike to mechanics they have suggested that engine overhaul needs to be done which would cost anywhere between Rs 7000 to 8000. My bike has run around 95,000 Kms. Would it be a good idea to get this engine overhaul done or should I opt for a new bike altogether. I have shown the bike to several mechanics and all of them are of the opinion that the bike engine needs to be done overhaul. When I checked with couple of my friends they are suggesting to go for a new bike instead of getting this one repaired.

    Anybody here who has an experience on getting engine overhaul done. I don't mind spending around 8 k to have it repaired but don't want to spend addtional money just in case new problems crop up. If something like that does happen I would prefer going for a new bike even though I have some constraints with regards to money for a new one.

  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      First, Welcome aboard & pls post an intro on yourself & atleast complete the "About Me" section.

      To answer your question, looks like you're little confused as what to do like it happens with everyone. If you've any special sentiments attached to your motorcycle, then trust me, you'll even spend 80K to get it fixed otherwise, its a piece of machine. Hope you got the point.

      Looking at the point economically, its a 6 year old motorcycle & has served you very well. Good. From now on, the maintainence is going to cost you more unlike the first few golden years. So you need to be prepared for it. So let's work on the math, say you want to retain the motorcycle for next 5 more years.

      Old motorcycle
      Average Expense per year - Rs 5000
      Initial capital - Nil
      Total - Nil + 5 X 5000 = 25000

      New Motorcycle
      Initial capital - 60000
      Average Expense per year - 800
      Total = 60000 + 800 * 5 = 64000

      So now you decide if you want to look things from economical or emotional point of view. Good Luck!!!
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      • #4
        Thanks for replying aargee

        Firstly I don't have any attachment kind of thing towards my bike. Maybe a little bit but not too an extent that I would be spending huge money to retain it. Currrently I don't have money to invest on a new bike and hence thought would get it repaired. All this 6 years I had hardly any trouble with the bike except for some minor repairs. So I was assuming if I invest around 7k and hope that I wouldnt have to spend more than 2k per year on the bike then it would be good enought. By maintenance I'm assuming things like regular service etc. The only thing that worries me is again in the near future some other part goes out and then I have to invest again some 2k-3k for the repair only rather than the regular service.

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        • #5
          Hi friends,

          I know there maybe some people out there who would have experienced similar problem. could you please help me in deciding the possible option?
          I would appreciate your feedback.

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          • #6
            See if you are not prepared for a new bike then why think about it? You don't mind riding the 6 yr old bike for a few more years right? Assuming that you are fine with the bike being old, I suggest go for the engine overhaul. Get the worn out parts replaced. But get this work done from a reputed mechanic and make sure that he knows what he is doing. An Engine is not something that once opened can never be put back together like it was before. Trust me. There are so many engines running which had work done upon. As in new bores new piston rings or new cams, new rocker arms, new timing chains etc. It all depends on how well the job is done. In your case as you do not plan to modify anything and use all new parts stock, getting the engine work won't be a big deal at all.

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            • #7
              hello dude.
              you remind me of days ago when i was exactly in this doubt as what to do.
              i own a fiero f2, its 04 model and clocked 52k until now.
              I RECENTLY got engine work done.

              i had to bore my cylinder.
              get new piston and piston rings.
              new timing chain assembly.
              new camshafts.
              all gaskets replaced.
              carb tuning.
              in short everything except gear and clutch.

              in an all it cost me 5.5k including labor at svc..

              I'll get back to you soon for detailed reports..
              Giving a lot to a fiero.
              Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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              • #8
                okay i am back...
                see it basically depends on what you expect from your bike.
                being a 100cc bike and after riding it for almost 1 lac km, you would know better.
                if i was at your place i would have opted for a 150cc bike.
                your bike has turned old and it needs more attention.

                if you want a power upgrade, only then opt for a new bike, if you again plan to buy a 100 - 125 cc machines than keep this one..

                your bike won't need complete overhaul, all it would need is replacement of piston, rings are valves.
                does your bike sound like metal rubbing against each other while riding??


                regarding the work needed
                its easy and cost will be less too.
                since you have roughly 8-9 grand to do it, so its good money to get things done in a right way.

                try giving a detailed report as what exactly the bike is behaving like (instead of just quoting a pick up loss) and we can understand all the thing that needs to be done.
                Giving a lot to a fiero.
                Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pavanchirmade View Post
                  See if you are not prepared for a new bike then why think about it? You don't mind riding the 6 yr old bike for a few more years right? Assuming that you are fine with the bike being old, I suggest go for the engine overhaul. Get the worn out parts replaced. But get this work done from a reputed mechanic and make sure that he knows what he is doing. An Engine is not something that once opened can never be put back together like it was before. Trust me. There are so many engines running which had work done upon. As in new bores new piston rings or new cams, new rocker arms, new timing chains etc. It all depends on how well the job is done. In your case as you do not plan to modify anything and use all new parts stock, getting the engine work won't be a big deal at all.
                  Thanks Pavan for your suggestion. As mentioned earlier I would go for a new bike if in case I come across a situation wherein now I spend 8k for the engine overhaul and within a a year I have to shell out more money say around 5k. In that case I would be shelling out around 13k per year. Instead of that I could put in more money and get a new bike. however if I spend around 8k now and maybe spend for the regular service without any major bike problems then I would prefer continuing with the existing bike.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post



                    if you want a power upgrade, only then opt for a new bike, if you again plan to buy a 100 - 125 cc machines than keep this one..

                    your bike won't need complete overhaul, all it would need is replacement of piston, rings are valves.
                    does your bike sound like metal rubbing against each other while riding??


                    regarding the work needed
                    its easy and cost will be less too.
                    since you have roughly 8-9 grand to do it, so its good money to get things done in a right way.

                    try giving a detailed report as what exactly the bike is behaving like (instead of just quoting a pick up loss) and we can understand all the thing that needs to be done.
                    I wouldnt want to opt for anything more than 125 CC so based on your suggestion I would prefer sticking to the current one.

                    I don't get any kind of metal rubbing sound as such.

                    Too be really honest I'm not good with bike parts how it works etc. I know this may sound a little naive. Starting Feb this year I found that my bike isn't running smooth as in for example earlier when I was going on a slope it would go smoothly without any problem on 3rd gear however now even on second gear it doesnt go smooth on hills/slope. Mileage has also come down. It's very difficult riding the bike now with a pillion.

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                    • #11
                      don't worry.
                      once you get the work done it won't give you any problems.
                      you can ride it without any issues for at least 2 more years.
                      you should get your piston replaced.
                      if your cylinder has widened with friction then you will need to bore your cylinder which will cost around 300 bucks only.
                      all in you won't have to shell more money.
                      go to the hero honda svc and ask them to quote the estimate damage and the cost involved in repairing it.
                      let us know what they say as you'll get an expert opinion.
                      also ask that test rider to ride your bike long as he'll understand better.
                      your piston cannot compress complete air without leakage and that has led to all this power loss problems.
                      make sure your bike's silencer doesn't smoke when you ride it as it will damage your bike more.
                      Giving a lot to a fiero.
                      Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Friends,

                        Thanks for your suggestions. I finally did go for the engine repair/overhaul. The only glitch is that I had to shell around 10k against the initial estimate of 7-8 k. But after the repair the bike is doing good. It just works like how my bike used to couple of years back.

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                        • #13
                          can you put up some more details regarding the same??
                          Giving a lot to a fiero.
                          Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                            can you put up some more details regarding the same??
                            Could you please let me know what kind of details you would need?
                            Would you need the details as to which parts were replaced?

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                            • #15
                              hey fella!! If ur in delhi you should go castrol bikezone, or rest in India, if it is located...
                              Point is, I got my pulsar engine over haul done from BikeZone, and it cost in around 5.5 grands, include all expences,
                              and its almost two years now and it going great,i've some long tours though,,
                              this is my personal experience dude,
                              I think yu should go for it..

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