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  • R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

    This is been one of the most precious and significant investments I have made in years as far as my life with motorcycles is concerned.

    I've been riding since 2003 and started with a 110cc motorcycle. Been following MotoGP since 2001, fan of Rossi since. Gradually, had my share with F1, WSBK, WRC and other forms of motorsports.

    I always wanted to ride a motorcycle on a track and I was delighted to know when the BIC opened it's arms for F1. Although I didn't get to experience it before 2014 when I did my first track day there in Feb 2014 (open track day).

    Fast forward 2017, with a Street Triple at home, run-in complete, first service done, I was so enthusiastic to hit the track with already four track days under my belt in the past couple of years. However, I hadn't ridden on the track for over 13-14 months. So, I was constantly after anyone who does track days asking when is the next one. There was one in January that was happening one 14th Jan which was when I had to fly to Mumbai for a week. Plan cancelled.

    Then once I was back I was patient enough to wait and then on 9th Feb, I called up Simran from Redline Racing asking that same question - "when is the next track day?" to which he said, -
    "sorry, but we don't have any plans yet, however, there is the RACR event happening on 18th Feb. If you wish you can enroll for that, you will get considerable amount of track time and some learning along with it, so should be all worth it."
    I told him, "ok, let me think and I'll get back to you about this."

    I told the same to my wife, who's a big influence on my decisions regarding motorcycles. Reason being she's also an avid MotoGP follower for over 7-8 years now. She asked me, if I want to go for it. Honestly, with 29,700Rs at stack, I did not want to go for it. She asked me to "just think about it, once" and then decide.

    Now, I already had some money save which I planned to get either ohlins or front fork set for my bike in around next 4-5 months. Then I thought, it must be a great experience with all professional riders around the pit garage, international track and a Street Triple at my disposal. So, with that thought I called up Simran again on 11th Feb (Saturday) asking if he's available at the shop or not. He told me that I can come visit the shop but, his dad, Gurvinder ji, would be there. I was cool with that. Both of them are very courteous and polite and have helped me with several stuff before.

    I went to the shop around 4 in the eve with my wife to ask about the course. One of my concern was whether I'll get enough attention to actually improve and if the training is worth it. For the first questions, I was told that - learning is upto you, the more you extract from the trainer, the more you can learn. Being a trainer my self, I believe learning is a two way process.
    For question number two - Gurvinder ji told me one thing very clearly, that no matter what skill it is, you will always find difference in a trained and a self trained performer. This hold true in any art/skill. That's where it was decided that "let's do this". Then came the following questions:
    How to enroll - He said if you enroll through us, it will cost you less. So, I got enrolled for 27500Rs.
    How to transport bike - They had trailers, but they also had their own bikes they would be carrying along, so I had to ride it myself.
    Anything else - They asked to cover all lighting areas if possible - (headlight,indicators and brake light), remove anything unwanted and carry your own fuel.

    I then came home, called the contact number on the R.A.C.R website and I spoke to Om, who gave me similar answers to my query as Gurvinder ji and ask for enrollment procedure. There was an online form we had to fill and transfer the money to the account number mentioned in the website.

    Anxious through out the next five days, I had taken a leave from office on Friday (17th Feb) considering I had a track day on Saturday (18th Feb). It's always recommended to be in the best of the your health while going for a track day. Also ensure to carry some basic stuff. Here are a few things to check:
    -Sleep sufficiently,
    -Don't come empty stomach,
    -Reach the venue on time,
    -Leave your worries behind,
    -do all the checks on your bike in the daytime a few days prior to the event,
    -Put all your stuff in the car a night before the event (check everything before leaving)
    -Carry at least basic tools (bike tool kit, puncture kit, tyre gauge, tyre pump, paddock stand)
    -Wear something comfortable which is easy to change out from.
    -I was also carrying a matte finish automotive sticker sheet to cover my lights. I had cut them to shape for the head light only. Missed for indicators and brake light.
    -Own water supply, fruits and some light food - like sandwich,etc.

    I bought a can from a local hardware store. It's just to carry liquid, not gasoline specifically. It's not robust, so it has to be kept carefully not to get damaged. I always take the car and bike both for track days as the car carries all my riding gear, tools and equipment. That's driven by my wife.
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    more coming tomorrow..stay tuned
    Last edited by R-series; 03-01-2017, 10:01 PM.
    Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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    Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

    Thread Approved and Moved

    Thanks for posting this R. Haven't read it yet, will read at leisure.
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      Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

      Wow.Superb intro. Waiting for the rest...
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        Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
        Thanks for posting this R. Haven't read it yet, will read at leisure.
        Thank you for encouraging me to write this

        Originally posted by mathewkakkassery View Post
        Wow.Superb intro. Waiting for the rest...
        Thanks @mathewkakkassery

        Part-II Getting In..
        I’m sure this happens with all of you..when we have something important next morning, we usually wake up early. I woke up at 3AM. Told myself to settle down and not be excited else I’ll end up ruining my whole day. Took around 20-30min doing something not related to bikes to take my mind off the event.
        At 3:30AM I started packing all my stuff, woke my wife up. We both got ready by 4:50AM or so. My wife packed some fruits and some sandwiches.
        Before leaving, I told my wife to be always on the phone with me through Bluetooth as we had to get fuel on the way to the venue. With everything in the car, me all geared up, driver cum pit crew ready, we left around 5:05AM.
        We reached the Indian oil petrol station behind Leela Hotel (Africa Avenue) around 5:30AM. Told the guy we are going to the circuit for race and need fuel in the can. Got the car and bike fueled up for 700Rs each and got 20Lts in reserve in the can. Next Stop – BIC.
        We maintained 80 throughout the way till the venue. Reached the place around 6:45AM. There were only 3-4 guys I could see around the admin block (registration desk). I went inside and asked the guys at the desk about indemnity form, which is simply an acknowledgement for the riders saying that any loss, physical or property, is my own responsibility. They charged 150Rs for rider and crew each. While I was filling up the form, I heard the door open. The guy at the desk was looking at the person who entered, then I glanced at the person behind him, he was also looking in the same direction. I turned around to see who it was and there were three guys, two instructors and Rajni himself wearing an Aprilia jacket. I was shocked, I knew I would get to meet him, but never was mentally ready for this moment. I gave my wife a nudge with the elbow and whispered - “this is the guy, can you believe your eyes?”
        In a few seconds he come to me, smiled, put his hand forward and said – “Hi, I’m Rajni”.
        I replied – “oh of course, it’s a pleasure to meet you. I’m Kushagra, you wouldn’t know me”. I don’t know why I said that “he wouldn’t know me”. That was so stupid.
        Well, it took a while for that feeling to sink in. I actually asked my wife to fill in the form on my behalf.
        Imagining that I just shock the hand of the man who is the fastest Indian on two wheels. It was crazy. A very precious moment.
        Wow, I just relived it again while typing this. The guy is such a simple person. He welcomed me to the program, asked how I’m doing. He also asked me to focus and pay attention to the instructions and learn as much as I can. Also said – “..and don’t forget to have fun”.
        Once that episode was over, we were waiting for the rest of the guys to come. Meanwhile I went outside and removed mirrors and rear mud guard from the bike. Put on the sticker templates for the headlights. By that time, in 15min, they called all riders to come back in. They asked us to fill a form which was the same form I filled online which had information about you as a rider. For eg:
        How long have you been riding?
        Any track days done?
        Which location?
        Which bike?
        What was your time?
        After filling that, they kept your form with your indemnity form and gave you a number. This is what I got.

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        They gave us a wrist band to put on. One for every member coming into pit lane. Then we went out, me on two wheels, wife on four and up to the circuit.
        We parked the car, got our bag and tools out. Left the can of fuel inside the car, with the windows slightly open, just so that we don’t celebrate Diwali too early :P. It’s safe at BIC cos you won’t have people fiddling with your vehicles there. I pushed the bike to the pit garage. Of course I could ride it in, but my wife was walking with the bag, I wanted to keep her company.
        Once in at around 7:50AM, we opened the back and got all the riding gears out. I was wearing a cargo, dry fit inners which I usually wear during workout and my riding jacket over this. I was supposed to wear my leathers over the inners. I changed at the same place, as with inners, you don’t have anything to be ashamed off to go out looking for a changing room.
        Initially it used to take around 15 min for me to be all set with suit, shoes and gloves. Now I can easily do it in 5 min.
        Once ready we had some water and a sandwich, one of the few foods we packed with us. That’s when this happened.
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        These bikes line up in front are all triumphs and are for the instructors only.

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        Weekend morning and you are treated to this view. Being into motorcycles, what more could you want early morning.

        While waiting, I saw the other riders coming in after completing their formalities. Bikes like Daytona, Daytona R, Panigale 899, ZX10R, S1000RR, GSXR1000R, Panigale 1200R.
        Then Gurvinder ji and Simran were also there with their equipment and bikes.
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        Next is – rider briefing and first session..stay tuned
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          Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

          Finally got to read through it. Thanks for sharing your experience. Feels like i was actually there Waiting for the rest!
          Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

          Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

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            Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

            Sorry for the delay, I thought of sharing this over the weekend but I was very occupied during the two days.

            Once I was mentally settled, anxiety sunk in and things felt normal, that's when the process started. We were all called up for the riders briefing in the briefing room. This was for everyone apart from the professional riders. Here they share information about the track. The following pointers are some which they shed some light on:
            • Observe all rules at all times
            • Observe speed limit in pit lane
            • Observe pit lane entry and exit boarder lines
            • Observe all flag instructions
            • Do not stop for any rider who took a fall or went of course
            • Learn as much as you can
            • Stay safe

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            After this we went straight to the first session, the R.A.C.R. welcomed us to the class and introduced their instructors. They shared the flag instructions which were more descriptive than during the briefing session. They briefed us about the course which was suppose to be as follows:
            -Classroom session (15-20min)
            -Track session (20 min)
            -Classroom session (15-20min)
            -Track session (20 min)
            -Classroom session (15-20min)
            -Track session (20 min)
            Lunch - 1hr
            -Classroom session (15-20min)
            -Track session (20 min)
            -Break for revision (Open Q&A)
            -Open track sessACH]ion (20 min)

            The first session was dedicated to just getting used to riding on the track. Though this was suppose to be just a warm up session, it would have been nice if they could have shared what to actually look out for especially for first timers on track.
            Since I had ridden here earlier before I was just getting used to my ride which was visiting the track environment for the first time.
            They did categorize the riders into 3 groups. 1,2 were only the RC riders. Group 3 was all the higher segment bikes - there were 6 of us in that group. My Street, 2 Daytonas, a 10R, a tiger, an 899.

            Enjoy the pics. Below you see the classroom sessions being conducted and everyone rolling out for the first session.

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            Further details coming up in next couple of days - I'll sum up all the sessions in the next log just cos I don't have too many pics from each session individually
            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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              Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

              Feels like I'm writing a personal diary Since not many people are interested, I'll conclude the experience in this post.

              Once I was back from the first session, where I used all my know how about the track and bike and managed to do 2:44.7 (while my previous best was 2:58.8-Ninja 250), I thought I've done a pretty good job for my first outing.
              But then, my instructor said - you're doing it all wrong. Lets start from basics then. First came throttle control, after understanding and consciously trying to implement that on track, I managed the fastest times around 3:00.00.
              Then in the 3rd session we were told about body positioning. Implementing that on track got me down to 2:50s. That's how much difference proper technique can make on the track.
              In fourth session we were told more about body positioning, mainly while transitioning like brake-accelerate, accelerate to brake, left to right and right to left. Going out on the track with that same conscious effort got me down to 2:42/43.
              After this we had lunch. I was in pretty good shape and was surprised that many of the others in my batch were almost exhausted to the point that they were mentally done for the day. That expression on their face after lunch told the whole story.
              For a sports bike, it is said - the bigger engine you have, the stronger muscles you should have to handle it.
              With a non empty stomach I was eager to go ahead with the next session. Session 5 - This was now about braking. Instructors words - The potential of brakes that we utilize on the streets is not even scratching the surface of the braking potential. That made me think, I can actually brake really, really late.
              Session 5 on track - implementation.
              Instructions - keeping in mind what you've already learnt, brake at least 50 meters late.
              Now that's a pretty large distance when you think of it. But when I started using the brakes of the street triple, which are completely OEM, it felt like nothing.
              Result - 2:39/lap

              Next session was at 4:30. We were approaching the end of the day, so this was an open session. All out, all guns blazing. A quick recap of 10 min. A break to freshen up and we were ready to show what we've learnt.
              Result is this.
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              My best lap time of the day. Some riders said the time is in the range of some Daytona's, but I know I'm still far away from any good rider on the track.

              Even after this, I still feel I could have done a lot more. I know where I lack and what I need to improve on. That's the best part of getting trained by someone professionally.
              I think I did a pretty good job in learning and implementing all the techniques shared. The effort still is conscious and it take a lot of practice to make it come out naturally.

              I don't know when I would get the next opportunity to do this school again, but I'll certainly be looking forward to it.
              If you feel I have missed anything or you would want to know anything specific from this experience please don't hesitate to PM me.
              Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                Wow!! Really good to read your experience. We also wanted to go for this one, but realized the day we got to know about it, the event was happening the very next day. But I will be keeping an eye on this one for its next schedule.

                Thank you for sharing your experience. It really helped.

                Did they give FMSCI forms to apply for RACE license at the venue as well?

                Thank you

                CHEERS!!
                Rachit K Dogra

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                • #9
                  Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                  Originally posted by R-series View Post
                  Feels like I'm writing a personal diary Since not many people are interested, I'll conclude the experience in this post.
                  Hahaha. That is how the internet works You write something wrong and you see how many people will get interested

                  Thanks for sharing R! There will be plenty of people over a period of time who will refer to the information you have shared.

                  I am actually interested in what they taught about braking and body position in the classroom, some of the highlights if you care to share
                  Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

                  Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

                  Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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                    Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                    Originally posted by R-series View Post
                    Feels like I'm writing a personal diary Since not many people are interested, I'll conclude the experience in this post.
                    Haha, I know that feeling My first travelogue i didn't continue after couple of posts and moved everything to FB and wordpress , One thing i noted that there are many silent spectators like me who doesn't comment on the posts,but read it
                    Last edited by manojkrishnaks; 03-15-2017, 11:58 AM.

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                      Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                      Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post
                      Wow!! Really good to read your experience. We also wanted to go for this one, but realized the day we got to know about it, the event was happening the very next day. But I will be keeping an eye on this one for its next schedule.

                      Thank you for sharing your experience. It really helped.

                      Did they give FMSCI forms to apply for RACE license at the venue as well?

                      Thank you

                      CHEERS!!
                      Yes, you should definitely try it. I didn't expect to be so fast in a day. However, your sincerity towards the program will define your progress.

                      Nope. We weren't offered any such forms for race licence. I did inquire about it though and was told that the certificate does help in getting you the licence as it acts as a kind of recommendation.

                      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                      Hahaha. That is how the internet works You write something wrong and you see how many people will get interested

                      Thanks for sharing R! There will be plenty of people over a period of time who will refer to the information you have shared.

                      I am actually interested in what they taught about braking and body position in the classroom, some of the highlights if you care to share
                      Oh yeah, of course. I've observed such backlash first hand. But if that's what it takes to seek attention, I guess I'm ok with a few guys reading my posts

                      Regarding braking, there's a simple trick - fast and progressive. It should not be sudden, which is when ABS kicks in.


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                      Line F is what you should be aiming at. It should never be a pulse, which is what we do usually during sudden braking. The learning curve is to tap the lever (front) couple of times to get the feel of the brake and then gradually increase the braking force. Keep the rate of increase in force to minimum and gradually increase that rate of progress.
                      Another thing, do not us the clutch while braking. The clutch is only meant for gear shifting, that too only down. For up, we can consider clutchless gear shifts or half clutch if required. Some people tend to think it would hamper the engine, but all production engines are strong enough to take such loads without any reactions.


                      Tips for body positioning, stay as close to the bike as possible. The knee dragging is only for reference to know how much tyre profile you have left. That comes with experience. You'll get to know gradually at what angle you have used enough tyre profile.
                      I for one was never dragging my knee, cos of my experience from Motogp and WSBK is to keep least knee contact. The instructor had to force me to use my knees. I believed I was able to judge lean angles without knee dragging, but he said that if you're able to do it well without it, you'll be able to do it better with it.
                      So, there goes R&G sliders. When I started knee dragging, they didn't look as good as they used to.

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                      Originally posted by manojkrishnaks View Post
                      Haha, I know that feeling My first travelogue i didn't continue after couple of posts and moved everything to FB and wordpress , One thing i noted that there are many silent spectators like me who doesn't comment on the posts,but read it
                      Glad to know you're reading this.
                      Silent spectators is one reason why I don't like the like button on FB or other social media forums. It's like handing crutches to someone who has difficulty walking.
                      Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                      • #12
                        Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                        Originally posted by R-series View Post
                        Yes, you should definitely try it. I didn't expect to be so fast in a day. However, your sincerity towards the program will define your progress.

                        Nope. We weren't offered any such forms for race licence. I did inquire about it though and was told that the certificate does help in getting you the licence as it acts as a kind of recommendation.
                        Thank You. Yeah, they have changed the process a bit now I think and you need 1 track day school session to get one. Glad to know this qualifies for it.

                        I am sure even a little bit of fine tuning by an instructor can go a long way in making you a better rider. Plus on a track you can actually attempt to explore and improve without the regular fears of public roads.

                        Thanks again. It was really helpful.


                        CHEERS!!


                        Rachit
                        Rachit K Dogra

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                          Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                          nice informative post bro. people read what they are interested in at the moment. i am myself guilty of this as i read your post because i am planning ( at this moment willing is more accurate word) to go for a track school training at BIC. maybe thats why i was keen to follow your thread . maybe thats why most fm skip this section.
                          i would like to know if at bic, bikes and gear could be rented? is there any private organisation renting out stuffs? also what do they charge for open track sessions at bic.
                          Last edited by entsurgeon; 06-01-2017, 11:54 AM.

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                            Re: R.A.C.R Experience - 18th Feb'17 - BIC

                            Originally posted by entsurgeon View Post
                            nice informative post bro. people read what they are interested in at the moment. i am myself guilty of this as i read your post because i am planning ( at this moment willing is more accurate word) to go for a track school training . maybe thats why i was keen to follow your thread . maybe thats why most fm skip this section.
                            i would like to know if at bic, bikes and gear could be rented? is there any private organisation renting out stuffs? also what do they charge for open track sessions at bic.
                            Yes, you can rent gears for track days at BIC. You can contact Redline Racing or Riderz Planet. Both provide gears on rent. Riderz planet also provides KTM RC390s on rent for track days in case you are not interested in using your own bike. The last track session for the season happened on 13th May. It was at a good discount of maybe 12000Rs for 2 45 min sessions. Otherwise what I've heard from regular goers is that the charge is around 8-10K for an hour now.
                            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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