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  • #16
    Some of their models so far:

    97.2 cc - CD100
    97.2 cc - CD Dawn
    97.2 cc - CD Deluxe
    97.2 cc - Sleek
    97.2 cc - Splendor
    125 cc - Splendor Plus
    125 cc - Super Splendor
    125 cc - Splendor NXG
    115 cc - Passion
    120 cc - Passion Pro
    125 cc - Passion Plus
    124.7 cc - Glamour
    124.8 cc - Glamorous (PGM-Fi with a difference of 0.1 cc over Glamour)
    135 cc - Ambition
    149.1 cc - Achiever (Enough Splendor, Passion & Glamour)
    150 cc - CBZ (Tension)
    156 cc - CBZ Xtreme (Frustration)
    223 cc - Karizma (Desperation)
    STOP Honking - START Riding

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    • #17
      If Bajaj do become no. 1 brand in india who is going to fill no. 2 place? TVS, honda and Yamaha are far away from being no. 2.. Hero motors should stand on its own feet and if they don't there will be anarchy, imbalance in the market. Nobody should has any monopoly. Competition is good for everyone.

      Personally I wouldn't like Bajaj to become market leader because those who want to become the leader will have to focus on 100-135 cc market. If we leave 100-135cc market to Hero as it has a firm grip on it and can push its current portfolio for atleast 5 years with current tech Bajaj will buy some time to focus on 150-200+ cc segment. If this happens we might see new premium bikes coming from Bajaj's stable in near future.
      It's better be no 2 than no 1. Being at no 1 the amount of responsibilities makes you forget who you really are......
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      • #18
        The clear market leader in 2 wheelers will be known in the next 6-9 months. Hero will be nowhere near the top contenders after its breakup with Honda. Its high time Honda makes its mark in the indian motor cycling scene all on its own. Yamaha has made a amazing turn around. Mahindra will take long. Only time will tell.
        STOP Honking - START Riding

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
          Some of their models so far:

          124.8 cc - Glamorous (PGM-Fi with a difference of 0.1 cc over Glamour)
          Man you sound hillarious
          Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
            Man you sound hillarious
            A couple of years ago, for HH to go from Splendor to Passion, the difference in bore was just 8cc!!!

            Going thru one of the most difficult phases today when their identity itself is at stake, they proudly launch Splendor Pro. This shows how serious they are about taking on the challenge from their competitors. Let this launch be a stark reminder of what to expect from HH.
            STOP Honking - START Riding

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
              Man you sound hillarious
              A couple of years ago, for HH to go from Splendor to Passion, the difference in bore was just 8cc!!!

              Going thru one of the most difficult phases today when their identity itself is at stake, they proudly launch Splendor Pro. This shows how serious they are about taking on the challenge from their competitors. Let this launch be a stark reminder of what to expect from HH.
              STOP Honking - START Riding

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
                Some of their models so far:

                97.2 cc - CD100
                97.2 cc - CD Dawn
                97.2 cc - CD Deluxe
                97.2 cc - Sleek
                97.2 cc - Splendor
                125 cc - Splendor Plus
                125 cc - Super Splendor
                125 cc - Splendor NXG
                115 cc - Passion
                120 cc - Passion Pro
                125 cc - Passion Plus
                124.7 cc - Glamour
                124.8 cc - Glamorous (PGM-Fi with a difference of 0.1 cc over Glamour) Thats so not true! is 124.7cc here too
                135 cc - Ambition Gen 2
                149.1 cc - Achiever (Enough Splendor, Passion & Glamour)
                150 cc - CBZ (Tension)
                156 cc - CBZ Xtreme (Frustration)
                223 cc - Karizma (Desperation)
                Corrections:

                Splendor Plus = 97.2cc
                Splendor NXG = 97.2cc
                Passion Plus = 97.2cc
                Passion Plus PRO = 97.2cc
                Glamour PGM-Fi = 124.7cc
                Ambition (Gen 1) = 133cc (The only HH bike I ever liked, No offends to anyone)
                CBZ Extreme = 149.2cc
                Hunk = 149.2cc
                CBZ Classic/Star = 156cc
                Karizma ZMR = 223cc (You missed this one)

                @Omega Man: CD100, CD Dawn, CD Deluxe, Splendor(Plus and NXG) & Passion (All varieties) Share the same bore, stroke, cc.
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                • #23
                  Right you are, antz.bin, that sets the record straight.

                  The only bikes that created a sensation for me were Sleek, CBZ, Karizma (the original launch in 2001) from HH. Since then its been downhill for HH in terms of design & performance.

                  Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                  Corrections:

                  Splendor Plus = 97.2cc
                  Splendor NXG = 97.2cc
                  Passion Plus = 97.2cc
                  Passion Plus PRO = 97.2cc
                  Glamour PGM-Fi = 124.7cc
                  Ambition (Gen 1) = 133cc (The only HH bike I ever liked, No offends to anyone)
                  CBZ Extreme = 149.2cc
                  Hunk = 149.2cc
                  CBZ Classic/Star = 156cc
                  Karizma ZMR = 223cc (You missed this one)

                  @Omega Man: CD100, CD Dawn, CD Deluxe, Splendor(Plus and NXG) & Passion (All varieties) Share the same bore, stroke, cc.
                  STOP Honking - START Riding

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                  • #24
                    karizma was launched in 2004
                    Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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                    • #25
                      Actually, I saw the first Karizma at a HH service centre May 2003. It was there for pre-maintainance service before being sent to showrooms for launch.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
                        Actually, I saw the first Karizma at a HH service centre May 2003. It was there for pre-maintainance service before being sent to showrooms for launch.
                        HH engines are so strong that they don't need upgrades every year....however after launching Hunk with rear disc i am sure a Upgraded ZMA with rear disc is coming soon our way...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                          HH engines are so strong that they don't need upgrades every year....however after launching Hunk with rear disc i am sure a Upgraded ZMA with rear disc is coming soon our way...
                          Agreed Satyam,

                          I sold my CBZ last month after a decade for 25k. The guy who bought it was pestering me quite a while to sell it off to him after he rode it once. The bikes still in excellent working condition, no engine jobs till date.

                          But like someone said in this thread, HH's policy is, "If its not broken, dont fix it". Its becoz of this HH policy that we are yet to see performance & good quality bikes with a fair balance of design & technology on Indian roads. HH has to shoulder the blame as it was the market leader all these years but did not take the responsibilty to transform the Indian biking scene much. The new players - Bajaj, HMSI & TVS & Yamaha (a real old hand) on the other hand have taken that initiative & deserve to be commended for their bold moves.
                          STOP Honking - START Riding

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                            karizma was launched in 2004
                            Honda CRF230 Engine in Karizma if there will be no tie ups with Honda then forget Karizma in the future.Honda wants to completely destroy Hero Honda due to the pain and agony which Honda company gone throw worker strikes and bla bla all planed politics to throw Honda away from India.
                            Hero welcome to the base please continue making cycles.
                            Ride Safe & Ride Long-->
                            Zayn

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
                              Going thru one of the most difficult phases today when their identity itself is at stake, they proudly launch Splendor Pro. This shows how serious they are about taking on the challenge from their competitors. Let this launch be a stark reminder of what to expect from HH.
                              And what's more.. they priced Splendor Pro at a discount to Discover 100 DTS-Si. I think that's the best compliment to Discover 100. In the past, Bajaj has tried the same thing with Boxer, CT100 to dislodge Splendor.. but that didn't work. Seems like HH is trying the same route now to prevent Discover from reaching the top spot.
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