I guess ill have to quote myself to reply you
I'm out of this thread.
No hard feelings.
Bye

Everyone goes against the government for obvious reasons. Yes, they are corrupt no doubt. If it takes 6 months for Kalmadi to be arrested, but 2 days for Ramdev to be arrested, you clearly know the government.

But, why do people spare the automobile companies as if they are innocent for our lack of good bikes? Bad service, lack of good fast bikes at acceptable prices, Waiting periods, etc.

All they want is a set of shortcuts. One CBU route gets opened by government, and all of these companies go like a herd of sheep (baah!), launching one litre class after another...! Honda barely managed to get a home-made 250 here, and that too is not too fast either.


I am glad Kawasaki is teaching them how to do business and gather followers all at the same time.

If anyone finds time, please read the end part of my first post (after the "source").

@Samrath

I agree to that last part. Govt is cleverly making the automobile companies to localise their products. Maybe a Harley or something will be localized and we can truly afford these machines!

govt new ckd policy is bullshit they want to loot our money( bikers) period
most corrupt govt of india in 60 years

As pointed out by others, there's an elementary flaw in the Govt's perspective. We, the people, are not seeing the trickling down of benefits which we should have been given for the billions we are taxed. Yes, it does make sense to discourage unnecessary opulence but legislations need to be functional as well. When it comes to commerce, they need to catalyze the entire cycle. If foreign players simply can't bring a better product to the table, the domestic ones won't be that incentivised to better theirs.
And yes, once again, it is just downright frustrating to listen to the govt preaching about loopholes when its own books are leaking with misappropriations and graft. But thats not the point here.
Hiked duties on CKD imports makes little sense. Companies using the CKD route are encouraging competition as well as creating a healthy number of jobs. Not to mention propelling a noteworthy growth of the industry.

I am split on this issue myself... And I actually blame the car companies more than the govt... If Volkswagen, Kawasaki and above all Harley can invest and take us seriously then I am sure companies like merc, bmw, honda and Yamaha can do it... And Yamaha has been the longest over here...

The MNC's are greedy and do not want to invest... And the Indian manufacturers are lazy and dun wanna grow up...

to all the opinions rising here the only answer is kawasaki and hyosung......
rest every company or our govt is an idiot. neither the companies will be investing in the near future in bringing in better bikes apart from the commuter segment nor our govt is going to reduce the tax structure.....

the only thing i can hope right now is at least built better roads and improve the overall level of infrastructure.....

not voting is also not an option.....

That move may not sound good. But in long run it is good for our economy. This will encourage more manufacturers to invest in making proper plants here rather than just assembly lines. Which will Provide more employment opportunities to us.

The government's plans make sound sense on paper, but where is the infrastructure in place in place to support local manufacturing?
Most of the factories here run on diesel gensets since they cannot rely on government supplied power, making the energy costs one of the major input cost components.

And the when the finished goods are done, the roads are non-existent for the company to ship out the goods.

Even though I personally may like duties to be zero to have cheaper super bikes in India, but do understand the reason govt has high duties.

What government is doing is simply not allowing free market of goods to be there. The reason is because other countries do not allow free market of jobs to be there. (Visa restrictions etc.)

Lets assume there are no import duties. All excellent bikes / cars are imported and sold at very low cost here. What would this do? If foreign made cars / bikes are sold here at close to what Indian made bikes / cars are sold for, anyone can guess what will happen. People will simply buy imported goods as they presumably will have better engineering and quality. Indian companies will lose the market share => Indian jobs will be lost. Foreign companies will have more market share => More jobs will be created in foreign countries. One can argue that Indian companies will then try to evolve to match the standards of foreign companies. However we are decades behind them and they are continuously evolving too. So eventually most Indian companies will lose out. In an nutshell Indian jobs will move abroad.

If other countries had allowed free movement of labor, then this would not have been an issue as Indian workers would have moved abroad to fill up the jobs there. But other countries only allow limited number of foreign workers thereby preventing free movement of labor. So our government is justified in restricting free movement of goods to compensate for the same.

I know why most of us are frustrated as to buy an imported car really worth 5 Lakh we have to shell out close to 10 Lakh. But fulfilling our desire for super cars / bikes is a much lower priority for the government than trying to retain / increase jobs in India.

A very interesting thread. I do not think the government is entirely to blame. I have studied form a very famous trade college and as such have heard true stories of what 0% duties have done to many countries in Africa. See if the govt. has zero duties on imported cars and on second hand vehicles it completely destroys the local market. This has been actually the case with several countries in the African market. Many of the complaints I guess are from people who are looking at it in the very micro level.
Also the companies are not bothered because irrespective of the price there are long waiting lines. I mean look at audi, merc and bmw ; they have huge waiting lines. So they are not bothered with setting up manufacturing units here because they face no problems with sales.

p.s I think an XBHP member has actually bought a S1000RR for 22 lakhs in Bangalore. Why should BMW be bothered then ?

Every word is true man.But about the honda/kawa part.Did you hear that the new ninja has a waiting period of 4 months now?Eventually if the demand stays high it'll also reach around the waiting period what honda is offering at the moment too.There is a reason an "enthusiast" is referred with that term.The waiting period can kill all the enthu in one.But this is not in our hands.

Now that's RIGHT!! Foremost we needs BETTER roads and then we can crib about taxes etc later.

The tax system is justified and should be there for an entire future but don't you guys think it should be a little more moderate than what it is right now? I still can feel the pain of hearing the evo X(evo being my dream car since the past 1 decade) on road price here.A car which lands on ground at around 15 lakhs in Japan,18 lakhs in USA,lands here at 55 lakhs OTR!!!
*sob sob sob* ya that's what a common citizen can do in most of the cases specially when he/she is not filthy rich and is already trying his/her best to reach out of bounds to achieve their mechanical dreams.Anyways let's face all this with a broad on our faces and join politics or at least some finance division.My vote already goes for a x-bhp'ian up there :P