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Yesterday, i was riding back from a beach nearby on NH17 and i was riding on the newly inaugurated flyover here. Local buses are pretty slow on the flyover for some unknown reason(they usually are speed demons otherwise) and me and two of my friends decided to overtake a bus from the right. To our surprise there was a police fence/barricade placed right at the exit of the flyover(the flyover being pretty much narrow) and if not for a quick stomp on the brake pedal who knows what wouldve happened. It was pretty dark at 7ish and there was absolutely no light/reflector indicating that fence/barricade.Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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+1. That's exactly what I'd thought too!!!Originally posted by eliksir View PostThis is like Final Destination. extremely bizzare.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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I really don't get this concept... How can a hospital deny someone admission? It is absolutely ridiculous!!! Something really needs to be done about such institutions... There is sheer apathy here, human life clearly has no value in the eyes of such people...Originally posted by stefanm View Post"Pal rushed Khan, who was still alive, to a private hospital nearby, where he was denied admission. Panic-stricken, Pal then took the still breathing Khan to Cooper Hospital in Vile Parle. However, he was declared dead on arrival. Authorities at the hospital's post mortem centre later confirmed that Khan's death was caused by shock due to multiple injuries."
Sick behavior by the hospital, he may have survived if these guys had treated him.Now offering Tyga Performance products in India - Brought to you by Midnight Trades
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Even it were present it would do no good. In trauma medicine the first 20 minutes is considered crucial for the survival of the victim. We don't value life. The traffic is utter chaos and anarchy reins supreme!!! No one stops for red signals, no one believes in traffic rules unless there is a traffic constable standing somewhere nearby. Leave alone 20 minutes, the poor chap will not have received any medical attention for more than an hour. Believe me, I know how much time it takes to reach Cooper hospital from Vile Parle Highway junction. I experience it every day.Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostIn a lot of countries a patrol car and ambulance are present in a lot of streets. Back here in India, they arent present in hospitals and police stations too! So, whats new?
Aargee: when the Supreme Court passes a Judgement it is a law! There is no need to pass a law for the same. In fact it is binding on the government to amend existing laws to confirm to the letter of the judgement.Last edited by abhimanyu31; 03-27-2012, 02:00 AM.Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
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exactly, if the so called pvt. hospitals lacks the facilities required to treat such a case, its better to get going. but yes after a first -aid.Originally posted by aargee View PostThat was my thought too initially, but we don't know the kind of facilities or the doctor's availability at the hospital; if they didn't have enough facility, then it was better to ask them get going as it might in turn back fire them.
But it were otherwise, then I rest the case.
in my case, when i had that life threatening accident. i was taken immediately to our small hospital, where they did first-aid, some bandages, some supports here and there, a few pain killers, checked if i was bleeding from somewhere- internally or externally, took whole body x-ray, all this in say 15-20 mins and immediately dispatched to "sancheti hospital" in pune which is good 1.5 hours away from this place and also sent a nurse along, just in case.... in a fully equipped ambulance (with all life saving equipments on board) and while the ambulance was on the way to hospital, local doctors called up sancheti hospital and informed them that such a case is on the way, so the doctors at sancheti hospital were ready when i reached there.
i think there can't be a better approach.
Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostIn a lot of countries a patrol car and ambulance are present in a lot of streets. Back here in India, they arent present in hospitals and police stations too! So, whats new?
ya here in pune also i can see some police vans and ambulances at accident prone spots.Originally posted by sayank10 View Postactually out here in kolkata i see patrol cars and ambulnce in some important intersections.
well....all big hospitals are now accepting accident victims without asking anything ...but yes the same cant be said about small clinics and nursing homes.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View PostThat's a very tragic accident and RIP to the deceased biker. And how many things you have to keep in mind while riding...??
Heck!
And like I told you all guys before, The SC Judgement remains in the books only. Even I was troubled similarly on 3 Aug, 2010 when I had a fracture. The doctor was asking my dad if I was riding drunk, and did you inform police, etc, etc. instead of treating my bleeding mangled-up right arm.
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there is nothing as in 'not fit' medical outlets!!
any clinics or hospitals with a basic trained nurse or doctor can easily handle the preliminary of severe bleeding.
from the context given i believe it must be a cut to the blood vessels in the neck and just applying pressure over the bleeding point would have saved him till he was taken to a bigger facility.
blindly turning away such needed victims is a 'professional negligence' and must be dealt with severely!!
and the over head wires must be checked periodically by the authorities.i dont see what else they have to do!!after all they arnt burning their heads trying to bring new technology !!
PS: doctors are asked to fill in 'wound certificates' when injured people come in at casualties and that's why they ask an umpteen number of questions about what happened.
but these are not usually done in a way that risks or cause severity in an already critical victim!!Our bikes can go from 0 - Stupid in less than "I wonder if this will be a good idea"
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First of all a megapolis has no business having unregulated overhead wires within its limits. Nowhere in the developed nations will you find overhead wires within city limits. The issue here is that there are no underground construction standards and hence there is no regulation to control wiring and ducting. This has led to uncontrolled and haphazard wiring through out the city. Cable operators pull wire from one building to another across the highway...Originally posted by ariendj View Post
and the over head wires must be checked periodically by the authorities.i dont see what else they have to do!!after all they arnt burning their heads trying to bring new technology !!
... Telecom operators do last mile connection to building by pulling a direct wire from the nearest pole... all potential hazards... In this case it was a metal wire, which means it was most probably an electricity transmission wire running across the highway... take a moment to look up and around your city, you will find it a nightmare of cables running from one building's terrace to another building's terrace.
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If that's true, then its a good thing.Originally posted by princesirohi View Postwell....all big hospitals are now accepting accident victims without asking anything ...but yes the same cant be said about small clinics and nursing homes.
I said that because, the judgement came in 2007, and my accident happened in 2010... And the Hospital was J.L.N. Government Hospital, Ajmer which is definitely not a small clinic or nursing home. Still... something or the other from their side delayed my treatment by about an hour or so.---
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i heard some where from my local news paper.. that a accidental case that comes in a hospital should be treated by the same hospital.
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Didn't the judgement come way back in 1989 ?Originally posted by Samarth 619 View PostI said that because, the judgement came in 2007, and my accident happened in 2010... And the Hospital was J.L.N. Government Hospital, Ajmer which is definitely not a small clinic or nursing home. Still... something or the other from their side delayed my treatment by about an hour or so.
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there are definitely a lot of "not fit" hospitals which lack basic infrastructure, trained staff and doctors. just look around or visit some hospitals.Originally posted by ariendj View Postthere is nothing as in 'not fit' medical outlets!!
any clinics or hospitals with a basic trained nurse or doctor can easily handle the preliminary of severe bleeding.
from the context given i believe it must be a cut to the blood vessels in the neck and just applying pressure over the bleeding point would have saved him till he was taken to a bigger facility.
blindly turning away such needed victims is a 'professional negligence' and must be dealt with severely!!
and the over head wires must be checked periodically by the authorities.i dont see what else they have to do!!after all they arnt burning their heads trying to bring new technology !!
PS: doctors are asked to fill in 'wound certificates' when injured people come in at casualties and that's why they ask an umpteen number of questions about what happened.
but these are not usually done in a way that risks or cause severity in an already critical victim!!
i was saying that based on my experiences here in pune/mumbai region.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View PostIf that's true, then its a good thing.
I said that because, the judgement came in 2007, and my accident happened in 2010... And the Hospital was J.L.N. Government Hospital, Ajmer which is definitely not a small clinic or nursing home. Still... something or the other from their side delayed my treatment by about an hour or so.
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I don't know what judgement came in 1989, but the Honorable SC made a statement on a case sometime in 2007, and since then it was called "Right to Emergency Care" and it was for every human being, irrespective of whether that person is a criminal, poor, or anything.Originally posted by eliksir View PostDidn't the judgement come way back in 1989 ?
See this extract from the article:
But of course, Police can trouble them (doctor, medical authorities, etc.) if a criminal person is treated and escapes later on.According to the Supreme Court, every injured citizen brought for medical treatment should instantaneously be given medical aid to preserve life and thereafter the procedural criminal law should be allowed to operate in order to avoid negligent death. There is no legal impediment for a medical professional when he is called upon or requested to attend to an injured person needing his medical assistance immediately.
The effort to save the person should be the top priority not only of the medical professional but even of the police or any other citizen who happens to be connected with that matter or who happens to notice such an incident or a situation
There are no provisions in the Indian Penal Code, Criminal Procedure Code, Motor Vehicles Act, which prevent doctors from promptly attending to serious injured persons and accident cases before arrival of the police and their taking into cognizance of such cases, preparation of FIR and other formalities by police.
@ Prince: I understand. Mumbai and Pune are the high awareness areas compared to small cities so its apparent.---
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Not sure about other places, but local news channels in AP keep showing clips of doctors being physically beaten up by relatives/friends of patients who die under their care with an alarming regularity. Wether the doctor is at fault is not known, so I am not surprised with the reaction of the doctor at the first hospital. But the sad part in our country is that anyone and everyone keeps blaming the authorities for everything, but forget their own responsibility.Some of the Happiest people in the world don't have everything. They just make the best of everything life brings their way !!! Stay happy, Smile always :)
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