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**antz.bin** · 06-26-2012, 12:18 PM

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**Binoy@220** · 06-26-2012, 12:34 PM

May his Soul RIP.

Helmet importance once again Proved.
Guys Ride safe.

**J K** · 06-26-2012, 12:48 PM

ho..!!
R.I.P

GUYS PLEASE RIDE SAFE
Take care

**utsavchs** · 06-26-2012, 12:48 PM

~ May his soul R.I.P ~

**lovish** · 06-26-2012, 01:03 PM

R.I.P

Which bike was he riding ?

**MHG** · 06-26-2012, 01:06 PM

RIP

I hope this does not sound racist (I'm half tamilian, half mallu and a resident kannadiga so anything goes

), but here in South India the problem is most boys have this perception that riding on loud bikes without helmet and with long hair is very cool. Many southie movies promote this as well. Maybe its about time movies are censored to ensure that helmet riding is promoted. Here every cheap low budget masala flick (hardly 1-2 good releases per year) features hero and heroine helmetless on a bike in a dance sequence. Just like censoring pro-smoking heroes, helmet-less riding in movies should also be censored. Anyone else agrees ?

**trustvishwas** · 06-26-2012, 01:06 PM

One point I always wanted to raise when the news claims that the death is because the rider was not wearing a helmet.

Does this imply that had he been wearing a helmet, he would not have died?

In several fatalities reported in Pune, it is always mentioned similarly. However, after watching photographs of accident, I have always wondered whether the rider would had been saved even if he wore the helmet.

Helmet is not some miracle tool which saves lives. It has its limitations.

I am not preaching against using helmets. I am all in support but was just wondering. . . .

Originally posted by lovish View Post

Which bike was he riding ?

The Hindu says that he was riding a bullet.

**Nithesh** · 06-26-2012, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Does this imply that had he been wearing a helmet, he would not have died?

Helmet is not some miracle tool which saves lives. It has its limitations.

I am not preaching against using helmets. I am all in support but was just wondering. . . .

I wonder the same too. Ive come across accidents involving a fully geared rider who got thrown off his R15 at high speeds and rammed helmet first into a tree trunk and died instantly.
It isnt just about wearing or not wearing helmets, it is about knowing your bike's limits and obviously your own limits.
That said, helmets are like insurance. You never know when you need them the most and when you do, you will be thankful for otherwise it wouldve been a major loss.

**princesirohi** · 06-26-2012, 01:55 PM

sad incident, because someone died.
sad incident, because, these kind of incidents being reported by media as " biker dies in crash without wearing helmet" creates bad impression of bikers in general public.
sad incident, because these kind of incidents put fear in the heart of every parents and they then deny their childrens to ride bikes or go on long tours etc.
obviously wearing helmet can not gaurentee your well being in the event of a crash, but it does protect one of your vital organs. so under no circumstances, anyone should ride without helmet. most of the deaths in bike accidents occur due to head injury.
and yes movies should not be allowed to show bike riding without helmet.
RIP

**aargee** · 06-26-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

Helmet is not some miracle tool which saves lives. It has its limitations

Ji...100% yes on limitation; for instance, if some rider wears a helmet, gets hit by a bus, dragged over for 10 foot can still survive, but the same rider can be killed if the same bus runs over him no matter he wears Arai & Shoei combined

Point is that, the helmet marketing has to be done saying "wearing helmet WILL minimize injuries" rather than saying "SAVES life". But again, if this is done, people will start taking things even in lighter note

It's like saying cars are safe; that doesn't literally mean, cars will always have its passengers alive no matter under any crash; it is COMPARATIVELY safer than motorcycles, that's all.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

That said, helmets are like insurance. You never know when you need them

Remember reading it somewhere earlier

**antz.bin** · 06-26-2012, 04:10 PM

First of all, RIP to the departed soul.

@Vishwas uncle.. Without a helmet on, even a simple skid on wet tarmac can turn fatal. That was the point of mentioning 'He was not wearing a helmet'.

The scenarios mentioned by members in which riders wearing helmet/gear didn't make it, I doubt even a car as armor would have been of much use.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Remember reading it somewhere earlier

HVK's Group? Hope you are doing alright.

**aargee** · 06-26-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

HVK's Group?

Oh!!! yes

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Hope you are doing alright.

Will not lie saying I'm alright though I'm back to office with not so good doing back. But will eventually get back to riding in several weeks.

Thanks for asking

**princesirohi** · 06-26-2012, 04:33 PM

most of the fatal accidents of bikers had some form of head injury.

in any accident, mostly hands, legs and head are the parts, that get injured.

there are very few fatal accidents in which the biker died due to injuries in "upper torso excluding hands and head"

hand and leg injury normally give sufficient time to save the life of injured person, whereas head injuries are almost fatal.

so helmets does save lives.

anyway-

here is a useful link to a pdf file containing all the data regarding road accidents in india by "ministry of road transport and highways"

Road Accidents in India 2010 - Ministry of Road Transport & Highways, Government of India

there is a table in this pdf file which that out of the total number of accidents, the percentage share of two-wheelers and cars is almost equal and number of injuries and fatalities are also equal.

car is not as safe as people think, or a car is equally unsafe as a bike.

**trustvishwas** · 06-26-2012, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

@Vishwas uncle.. Without a helmet on, even a simple skid on wet tarmac can turn fatal.

Agreed completely. Couple of months back, my close friend died at 10 am on Rajaram bridge while riding his activa. He was going at 30-40 kmph and just skidded. Died on the spot.

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

The scenarios mentioned by members in which riders wearing helmet/gear didn't make it, I doubt even a car as armor would have been of much use.

Again agreed completely.

I as just wondering - whether in all such incidences where rider was not using a helmet would not have died had he been wearing one.

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