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KTM eyes Indian bike mkt with plans to roll-out 3 models, including a sub-200 cc bike

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  • KTM eyes Indian bike mkt with plans to roll-out 3 models, including a sub-200 cc bike

    Source : Money Control

    Global motorcycle manufacturer KTM is all set to cross sales of 100,000 units this year, posting its best performance ever due to its alliance with Bajaj. KTM global CEO Stefan Pierer explains on CNBC-TV18 the future launches that the company has lined up in India.
    "We expect to launch a 390cc and maybe a 200cc model. We're also thinking to go one step lower maybe below 200cc, 180cc or 190cc to offer more price-competitive models," Pierer explained.

    He explained, "I would say that our 125cc model is a very specific displacement for the European market because that's in the moped class that you can ride at the age of 16. For India, I think we will launch an 180cc or 190cc model."

    "We can become 10 times the size what we are right now. But I have learned that India a very price-sensitive market. If we can offer three different models and several displacements, I think we can achieve a target of selling 80,000 units. I have a vision that in the next three-to-four years we will roll-out 100,000 units from the Bajaj 's Pune production facility.

    Three new bikes are
    1) Fully faired 390
    2) Fully faired 200
    3) 180/190 Duke

    Last edited by s_hari; 12-02-2012, 09:00 AM. Reason: Updated source link

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      ​Hope they Launch the DUKE 39o and DUKE 69o at very Competitive Prices

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        Fully Faired 200 ? Looks like something I'd buy if its priced competitively and is sufficiently large-bodied.
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          Faired 200 would be a blunder. It would put it self in the bracket of CBR. It might eat into the sales of CBR 150 though,But its definitely not feasible.
          Faired 180?? well,this sounds decisive - a full faired 180 CC(around 20 BHP,20 NM),priced between R15 and CBR150, would definitely be a game changer.... eating into both shares.
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            fully faired bikes from KTM...?? surprising news...
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              fully faired bikes at a lower price point would dilute the heritage of the brand...even though it will have a lot of takers...

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                Originally posted by sambit View Post
                Faired 200 would be a blunder. It would put it self in the bracket of CBR. It might eat into the sales of CBR 150 though,But its definitely not feasible.
                Faired 180?? well,this sounds decisive - a full faired 180 CC(around 20 BHP,20 NM),priced between R15 and CBR150, would definitely be a game changer.... eating into both shares.
                The article only quotes D200 and 390 to be coming with fully faired variants. D180 will be naked as of now.

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                  Originally posted by s_hari View Post

                  Three new bikes are
                  1) Fully faired 390
                  2) Fully faired 200
                  3) 180/190 Duke

                  Fully faired 390 looks yummy. It will be great, greater if it can be a multi-cylinder may be a twin.
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                    Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
                    Fully faired 390 looks yummy. It will be great, greater if it can be a multi-cylinder may be a twin.
                    No twin from KTM that fast, They are talking about repackaging the 373cc single.

                    Then how Pulsar 375 will co-exist? Duke 190 is a pathetic plan. May be a sub 1 L bike with minimal equipment. anyway, that will dilute the orange.
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                      Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
                      No twin from KTM that fast, They are talking about repackaging the 373cc single.

                      Then how Pulsar 375 will co-exist?
                      Quite simple actually, both 200 and 390 Full faired KTMs will be modelled on the lines of the KTM Moto3 race bike, whereas the Pulsar will hit the CBR250R where it hurts the most by offering a more powerful touring companion at a similar price-tag. This is what I speculate.


                      Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
                      Duke 190 is a pathetic plan. May be a sub 1 L bike with minimal equipment. anyway, that will dilute the orange.
                      Last edited by antz.bin; 12-02-2012, 10:19 PM.
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                        Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                        What they could try however is show their motorsport pedigree on this one too and model it like a SuperMoto with high GC and long travel suspension. That would make the KTM India lineup more complete with 2 Naked, 2 Full-faired and a SuperMoto offering without diluting their brand.
                        A super moto from ktm even in sub 200 category will cost more and'll be needing more quality components than D200 so can't be a sub 1 L bike with minimal equipment.

                        a 180/190 duke; just cant digest. Even IF Pierer says so, R Bajaj won't be doing this
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                          Originally posted by s_hari View Post
                          The article only quotes D200 and 390 to be coming with fully faired variants. D180 will be naked as of now.
                          Yup, but the fact is, why would the faired Duke 200 sell more than CBR 250 with the same price tag(if they are targeting the masses). So a fully faired 180 is more practical price wise.

                          Originally posted by mid View Post
                          A super moto from ktm even in sub 200 category will cost more and'll be needing more quality components than D200 so can't be a sub 1 L bike with minimal equipment.

                          a 180/190 duke; just cant digest. Even IF Pierer says so, R Bajaj won't be doing this
                          It wont dilute the brand any ways.A true enthusiast shouldnt care about such things,rather, the Japs should . A naked 180 would cost a little less than R15(hence might even cannibalize 200 NS sales).
                          If KTM wants to built a bike for masses,its welcome...
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                            This is a nightmare. Bajaj-ification of KTM. Where else in the world do you see bikes differenciated by 10 and 20cc?

                            KTM's standard 125, 200, 375, 690, 990 sounds so much better to me. I fully understand that they are trying to go for the volumes but brand dilution is not the way to do it. Really disappointed. The right way to do it, IMO, would be to sell smaller capacity bikes under a new (non-pulsar) bajaj brand, while the KTM brand sticks to the familier international (equivalent) models.
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                              I agree with Pierer, that India is actually a very price sensitive market. He seems to have learned a lot about India now.


                              A 180/190 Duke is a good idea if it can maintain solid performance. The acceptable compromises from 200 can be the Fi system (carb is good for tuners), USD Forks, tyres' size, etc. I do hope it doesn't compromise on the DOHC, 4 valves, frame, etc.
                              And I don't think a 180/190cc Duke will dilute the brand image of KTM, as it must still make above 20 bhp with a good weight figure. DNA should be the same.

                              And let me tell you guys that, although Mr. Pierer is pointing towards a lower cost product, we haven't yet seen or known its specs, so we can't say anything. What if it proves to be a low costing, but capable Off Roader in competition to Impulse? We're talking about KTM, remember? Or a capable Adventure/ tourer bike?


                              Conclusion is that we can't decide this early, if the product will expand or dilute the brand image, coz we haven't seen the bike.

                              And, think about it: A particular "106"cc bike making 7~8 bhp. THAT my friends, is definitely diluting... er... killing a "certain" Japanese brand and racing heritage. Getting my point?
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