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**theironhorse99** · 03-18-2013, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Interesting perspective - didn't know that the 500R was supposed to be a relaxed tourer!

@nitrosatya: Is the riding position similar to the 250R?

OT: I have started developing a serious weakness towards faired tourers - started with the ZMR, satiated with the CBR250, and the ultimate dream would be a FJR1300!

a 500 parallel twin making a healthy 40-50 bhp cannot be anything beyond a tourer giving decent torque.. it certainly cannot be a sports/super sports or anything as a 100 cc more inline 4 makes 3 times the power

people here might call them sports bike but the fact lies when the same motorcycle is sold in international market they are nothing but learner's bike... for them a 600cc inline 4 making 100hp is considered a sports bike... again the thought process works as per the market availability of the product and the options available..

it was specifically made for the asian markerts where people need looks and power but still look forward for better mpg.. so here is the answer

a 250r cannot be called a sports either for a good sports bike of 250 even with a single cylinder honda could have tweaked it to cross 30+ hp
however it would have guzzled a lot more fuel and would lack the low end torque for city use and relaxed touring

**nitrosatya** · 03-18-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

That silver CBR500 one looks very much like a reworked CBR250! The tricolor may look a bit more imposing, though. I was expecting them to be atleast the same size as the CBR600RR !

Haha, me too! But they are just plain ordinary size.

Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post

It was expected, for the 500 series to be the same size of the 250R as they have the same dimensions . The silver one looks good. Can you post some more pics please?

specially the CB500F streetbike and the CB500X tourer.

I will try when I go there next time. The F is the best of them all.

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

a 1000 cc BMW s1000rr almost feels like a 600 however thats what makes it quicker as well..
making a 500 cc relaxed engine of 40-50 horses as big as a 600RR will make it heavier and non exciting... 600r rmakes 120hp.
above that they need to justify the price tag diffrence between a 500r and 600rr. if they both look similar they will face criticizm
for making a base level tourer similar to a super sports

cant disappoint the bigger guys..

it might be similar to a 250 but please realize if the company can fit in a bigger engine with the small chassis eventually we are
getting benefitted by getting a lighter and quicker motorcycle..

out of the 3 rides.. my bet is the 500x... its like niceeeee...

But to the people upgrading from smaller bikes, they should feel like they bought something substantial.

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Interesting perspective - didn't know that the 500R was supposed to be a relaxed tourer!

@nitrosatya: Is the riding position similar to the 250R?

OT: I have started developing a serious weakness towards faired tourers - started with the ZMR, satiated with the CBR250, and the ultimate dream would be a FJR1300!

Yes almost the same as CBR 250R. My legs were quite away from the slim tank. Didn't touch the tank.

All in all it[500R] will be a disappointment for those seeking a big sportsbike feel. Street is the best and tourer after it. The best proposition is the streetbike. 500/400 cc bike for city riding. I imagine great fun in the city!

**bbsrailfan** · 03-19-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

a 500 parallel twin making a healthy 40-50 bhp cannot be anything beyond a tourer giving decent torque.

Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post

Yes almost the same as CBR 250R. My legs were quite away from the slim tank. Didn't touch the tank.

All in all it[500R] will be a disappointment for those seeking a big sportsbike feel. Street is the best and tourer after it.

I am hooked on! The 500R will most likely be my next upgrade (if it comes to India, that is!)

**Satyamzma** · 04-01-2013, 03:16 PM

Honda CBR 500 Launched in India !!!

Honda CBR500R launched in India at shock price! | Bike India

**111diablo111** · 04-01-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

Honda CBR 500 Launched in India !!!

Honda CBR500R launched in India at shock price! | Bike India

Wait, what, you’re still reading this with bated breath? Oh, well then, April Fool, folks!

**Ankitvile** · 04-02-2013, 01:11 PM

Hondas are pioneers in two wheeler industry. Would be great if they come in with their 500 cbr x f and r series....infact the 400s launched for japan as in the news ....theyre good for indian conditions too. Adequate power on wheels would do great. Im eyeing for the CB400/500X ultimate on off roader. Ideal displacement wise not too high neither too short on cc. Adventure would be fun on it.
Hopefully will come India soon.

**sauravalwaysurs** · 05-05-2013, 11:59 AM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

Just came across this:

India bound Honda 400 specifications revealed

I wish it to come to our shores. It can be a competitor for duke 390 and kwacker 300. Please bring it in Honda.

**DeVille** · 05-05-2013, 01:13 PM

**Rajarshi** · 05-06-2013, 04:23 PM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

India Bound Honda CBR400 Details & Prices Revealed in Japan

http://**********.in/babyblade-honda-cbr400r-india/

**princesirohi** · 05-07-2013, 05:58 AM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

^^ link is not working.if we go by the logic of motoroids.com, it can be priced around 3 lakhs OTR in india, if produced or assembled in india. but this seems extremely difficult based on the kind of volumes CBR250 is doing, unless and untill india is choosen as an exporting hub.if it is launched in competition to Ninja300, it should be priced in region of 3-3.5 lakhs OTR.and if honda thinks that being a 400 CC bike it is superior to Ninja300 and prices it above or at par with Ninja300, it would kill the product. but this is unlikely to happen, only if they are imported to india.but in no case it can be priced at par with Duke390... which has killer pricing.

**sauravalwaysurs** · 05-09-2013, 11:20 AM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

Getting more excited..!!! Just came across this:

KTM Duke 390 vs Honda CBR400R

If Cbr 500 takes 5 sec to reach a ton with 500 cc and 47 bhp, I assume cbr 400 can reach there in 6 secs in spite of the weight difference between both. Plus the difference in tank capacity infers that cbr will be a good tourer. I hope it reach our shores soon. Fingers crossed.

**princesirohi** · 05-09-2013, 01:38 PM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

Originally posted by sauravalwaysurs View Post

Getting more excited..!!! Just came across this:

KTM Duke 390 vs Honda CBR400R

If Cbr 500 takes 5 sec to reach a ton with 500 cc and 47 bhp, I assume cbr 400 can reach there in 6 secs in spite of the weight difference between both. Plus the difference in tank capacity infers that cbr will be a good tourer. I hope it reach our shores soon. Fingers crossed.

the article talks about two other 400's being launched this year, one i guess is P375, which one is other 400...??

i guess both will be doing 0-100 in under 6 secs.

expected price/release date..??

**senotrius** · 05-09-2013, 01:44 PM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

dont think the cbr400 might match duke on acceleration.its a detuned version of cbr500.has less torque(37nm vs 43) but same weight as the 500(194 with fluids).obviously will have better top speed than duke due to fairings.if it does come to india better be by local production else it stands no chance with d390.

**sauravalwaysurs** · 05-10-2013, 01:58 PM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

Originally posted by senotrius View Post

dont think the cbr400 might match duke on acceleration.its a detuned version of cbr500.has less torque(37nm vs 43) but same weight as the 500(194 with fluids).obviously will have better top speed than duke due to fairings.if it does come to india better be by local production else it stands no chance with d390.

CBR 500 R Vs Ninja 650 r
47 hp vs 71 for ninja (51% more)
and
43 Nm vs 67 for ninja (56% more)

And although it's a tiny bit lighter, 204 kg vs 195 kg (4% less).
Can anybody tell how many secs do N 650 r takes to reach ton mark? If i remember correctly it is 4 to 5 sec secs right? (Ninja 650R/ ER-6F acceleration 0-100 km/h with Leo Vince exhaust [HD] - YouTube & Motorcycle 0-60 & Quarter Mile Times | Kawasaki, Ducati, Harley-Davidson, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha 0 to 60 Acceleration Sports Bike Specs & More!)

Based on the above stats I think Duke 390 "may not" beat cbr 400r
Still I will prefer to wait for proper test results of cbr 400r.

Sorry for OT.

**dishayu** · 05-10-2013, 03:08 PM

re: Honda Launches 400 series for Japan: xBhp News

Originally posted by sauravalwaysurs View Post

CBR 500 R Vs Ninja 650 r
47 hp vs 71 for ninja (51% more)
and
43 Nm vs 67 for ninja (56% more)

And although it's a tiny bit lighter, 204 kg vs 195 kg (4% less).

Did you not copy paste that from my post in the CBR500 Isle of man thread? :P

Originally posted by dishayu View Post

The team will have to do a lot of hard work on it to be able to even match the competition. The CBR500 is way underpowered.

47 hp vs 71 for ninja (51% more)
and
43 Nm vs 67 for ninja (56% more)

And although it's a tiny bit lighter, 204 kg vs 195 kg (4% less), the advantage in % is even smaller if you add the rider+riding gear = 100kg

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