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  • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

    Dunno why a good top end and weak bottom end is that big a problem. all it requires is getting used to. on my R15 its in fact a positive. After riding bike for couple of years, i have learnt to completely avoid its lethargic bottom end. some times when i am riding easy like 4000 rpm in top, all i need to do is a downshift and rev till 7000 for a quick overtake and such. and when i am stuck in traffic, keep it in its slow bottom end so its easier to control.

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    • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

      Originally posted by MG View Post
      This is a completely wrong perception and Duke 390 feels and goes way faster than all the bikes mentioned above

      I'm also saying the same thing that it feels faster than the three bikes mentioned. Back to back riding will make you feel that the other bikes are slow to move from standstill
      @MG, how is it fair that you give us bits and pieces here and there when questions about the review have been ignored? It's like you're sitting and grinning watching ppl argue over silly six sigma pieces here!

      Originally posted by Cyrus_the_virus View Post
      When you say you "have been asked", are you saying that Bajaj/KTM asked you to no publish it, or am I missing something?
      Originally posted by Cyrus_the_virus View Post
      @MG, I believe it is only fair to those who are waiting in anticipation and paid money for it to know if there is a "serious" problem you found on the bike while testing or if holding back the review is just a trivial business request?

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      • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

        Originally posted by sparky View Post
        I somehow get an uneasy feeling looking at all the talk here of overtaking, zipping, smoking, blitz, etc.
        Those booking the D390, my humble request-
        Do not, I repeat do not become bullies on the road just because you can. It has great power as someone said with great power comes great responsibility.
        So please respect other road users when you ride it.
        Well said. Because of the words used I feel this is little bit addressed to me?... All that talk wasn't about overtaking itself but about describing the power delivery in action, and trying to understand how D390 behaves. As for my own riding habits - I'll ride fast only when it's absolutely safe for everyone around, vehicles and pedestrians. In situations that are not 100% safe to ride fast I'm usually the slowest no matter what bike I have.
        I think most future D390 owners here on xbhp are well behaved and very aware of safety on road. After all, propagating road safety is one of xbhp's most important aims.
        That being said - if some irresponsible bully has 2L in his pocket nothing can stop him from booking a Duke 390 or any other much more powerful bike. Although I think such guys prefer flashier poser bikes with fairing, like Ninja or R15.

        Originally posted by sparky View Post
        Hmm, how many of you are buying this bike based on the slope of the so called Dyno curve, raise you hands. Oops, not many, heck not even few, aah there is one at least. I am amused by some here willing to write a cheque based on some data readings ..
        You keep missing my points, and keep doing it again and again. OK, just forget it.
        Last edited by splus; 07-17-2013, 07:19 PM.

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        • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

          Allow the spec sheet to do the talking. 100 comes up in 5.5 seconds. Now that's serious factory performance, especially at this price point. An Akra slip-on and de-limiter should see to the fact that this bike aint all bout outright acceleration but can also hit a 180+ tops. Just wonder what the wind blasts and highway updrafts would do to you! Probably lift-off though. But nevertheless, it is a brilliant package. Helmets off to Bajaj-Ktm for paving the way for performance-oriented bikes in India. Another word or two about people whining over quality issues and the modified exhaust pipe! Deliveries still haven't begun you guys! Let's wait and watch whether these make it onto the customer's vehicles. The exhaust may make it in all probability though the duct tape and exposed electricals may not. Soo, Fingers Crossed. Am waiting for my 390, R U!?

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          • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

            Originally posted by venkatyamaha View Post
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            Guys...let's just put this pointless comparo to rest shall we!? I mean, pitting the D390 'gainst the D200, Ceeber and the ninja 300! The duke 200 n d cbr250 don't even stand a chance against the 390, leave alone the ninja 300. In terms of pure outright off the line acceleration and throttle response, the 390 would leave the other bike's of our market biting their own dust. The D200 is a sorta jack of all trades, master of none. It gets the job done, but likes to make a fuss bout it in the form of vibes and abrupt response and engine strain and redlining all the time(close-ratio cogs) and so on and so forth. The cbr250 is nothing but a joke after a 100kmph. It couldn't present itself as a rival against the good 'ol N250 itself which did the 0-100 dash in 'bout 7.5 seconds. So 'gainst the D390!? COME ON! The ninja 300 would outrun the duke390 in terms of speedo indicated top speed @ a 193kmph vs an electronically limited 160kmph of the duke390 but would again lose to it in the 0-100kph sprint and probably @ a quarter mile drag too. So, in the real world the duke 390 begs to differ and stand out on top. In fact, it actually deserves to be placed in a different class of its own, its own segment or genre

            Gosh !!! I guess most people only want to hear how fast it goes, how soon it touches 100. Thats it for them. Alright, however for others who also care about how it does that, I think they should look else where.

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            • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

              Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
              Gosh !!! I guess most people only want to hear how fast it goes, how soon it touches 100. Thats it for them. Alright, however for others who also care about how it does that, I think they should look else where.
              LOL. I was thinking exactly the same. I didn't know it's that difficult to understand that power =/= power delivery... Two different topics which many constantly confuse and interpret as complaining about D390's "lack of power" (which nobody questions).

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              • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                Originally posted by Cyrus_the_virus View Post
                @MG, how is it fair that you give us bits and pieces here and there when questions about the review have been ignored? It's like you're sitting and grinning watching ppl argue over silly six sigma pieces here!
                Its not fair to force some one to do stuff which their told not to do.

                If it is MG's profession to post the reviews and if he has been asked to hold it, then he might be having professional obligations to give you the reason.

                It is tough to go through the waiting period when you have already booked the bike. Not just xBHP, even other portals were told to hold the review. Have little patience and enjoy your waiting period. What ever the delay or the reason it must be good for the customers who are getting this bike.
                2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
                2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                2013 - KTM 390 Duke
                2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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                • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                  I honestly don't know what all the commotion is about and I'm too lazy to go and check it out... So a fresh start, here we go...

                  Test rode the 390 today and by God the torque is phenomenal. It just keeps pulling and pulling and 120 came up staggeringly fast on a wee bit straight. The top end just keeps hurling you backwards even at 120 kmph at the twist of the throttle. Getting back on my N250 just made my bike feel very docile. That right there shows that the 390 is going to be a rather unforgiving bike if you do make a mistake on it. Didn't like the low weight of the bike though, its unstable at speeds at the slightest bumps on the road. I rode it on a uneven flyover and let me tell you it scared the crap out me. It was like a wild horse just trying to get away from you. In short...

                  Initial Impressions
                  But if you really wanna know, I found the seating posture and its comfortability to be suspiciously identical to a dining room chair I have.

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                  • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                    after aeroblades experience .. @MG do you still have the bike? if yes i am outside your house..

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                    • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                      Originally posted by sparky View Post
                      I somehow get an uneasy feeling looking at all the talk here of overtaking, zipping, smoking, blitz, etc.
                      Those booking the D390, my humble request-
                      Do not, I repeat do not become bullies on the road just because you can. It has great power as someone said with great power comes great responsibility.
                      So please respect other road users when you ride it.
                      "Bullies"? That my friend is not the appropriate term to generalize such enthusiastic young men... You should be more sensitive to such people, haven't you learnt anything in tolerance classes?

                      "Mindless Zombies" would be more politically accurate!

                      No, no, don't thank me,... just doing my job...

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                      • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                        Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                        Alright, however for others who also care about how it does that, I think they should look else where.
                        Look elsewhere is a pretty strong statement. What are the other options to provide you better acceleration/punch/rush which you have been complaining about ?
                        N650 ? GT650R ? R1 ?

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                        • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                          Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                          Its not fair to force some one to do stuff which their told not to do.

                          If it is MG's profession to post the reviews and if he has been asked to hold it, then he might be having professional obligations to give you the reason.

                          It is tough to go through the waiting period when you have already booked the bike. Not just xBHP, even other portals were told to hold the review. Have little patience and enjoy your waiting period. What ever the delay or the reason it must be good for the customers who are getting this bike.
                          Please read my post again. I did not ask when he's posting the review. I asked if there was any reason for ppl to be concerned about something being held back. No matter what, as a community member it would be a responsible thing to do to let us know if there is a serious problem with the bike than letting our hard earned money go rouge. Not asking for a detailed analysis, read the quotes in my post.

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                          • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                            Originally posted by sparky View Post
                            Hmm, how many of you are buying this bike based on the slope of the so called Dyno curve, raise you hands. Oops, not many, heck not even few, aah there is one at least. I am amused by some here willing to write a cheque based on some data readings ..
                            Well said Sparky. There's a video on youtube for any of the 'D390 will suck when compared to D200' brigade. A test ride in Calcutta. The rider himself singing hosannas of the 390 and very helpfully pointing to a spot of sustained acceleration which deposits several truck lengths between the 2 bikes on speed.

                            Just to be sure , though, we're
                            A) Not talking about top speed
                            B) Not talking about 0-100
                            C) Not talking about the Lightweight rideability
                            D) Not talking about speed in general (because the general consensus is that other bikes feel slow after riding this bike)
                            E) Not talking about torque figures which control how the bhp is put down (35 vs 19)

                            But we're talking about some quasi-mythical "HOW" which is distinct from everything else that this motorcycle actually DOES.

                            DO correct me if i'm wrong anywhere. Love to be pointed in the right direction.

                            PS : I'm reminded of the feeling of righteous indignation i felt in the Sydney 2008 test. Loving how this bike is able to access the deepest recesses of our (my) heart.
                            Cheers.

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                            • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                              Originally posted by whatever View Post
                              Well said Sparky. There's a video on youtube for any of the 'D390 will suck when compared to D200' brigade. A test ride in Calcutta. The rider himself singing hosannas of the 390 and very helpfully pointing to a spot of sustained acceleration which deposits several truck lengths between the 2 bikes on speed.

                              Just to be sure , though, we're
                              A) Not talking about top speed
                              B) Not talking about 0-100
                              C) Not talking about the Lightweight rideability
                              D) Not talking about speed in general (because the general consensus is that other bikes feel slow after riding this bike)
                              E) Not talking about torque figures which control how the bhp is put down (35 vs 19)

                              But we're talking about some quasi-mythical "HOW" which is distinct from everything else that this motorcycle actually DOES.

                              DO correct me if i'm wrong anywhere. Love to be pointed in the right direction.

                              PS : I'm reminded of the feeling of righteous indignation i felt in the Sydney 2008 test. Loving how this bike is able to access the deepest recesses of our (my) heart.
                              Cheers.
                              Allow me to make another attempt!

                              What the D200 riders seem to miss is the low end torque. When they pretend to ride the bike like grandpa and put the bike in 6th gear at low speed and twist the throttle, they find the pull missing. Worse still, the bike even seems to knock due to the combined effect of lower mass flywheel, over-bored configuration and taller gear ratio.

                              Thus the D200 trumps the D390 on the grandpa test.
                              Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                              • re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

                                The mystery surrounding the *way duke 390 produces its power* has been amusing so far. The damn thing has been turned into an effing rocket science! People, it seems, have forgotten to relax. How does it matter in the end when the motorcycle's going to give you the biggest grin filled ride compared to any other motorcycle that didn't burn a deep hole in your pocket?
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