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  • #16
    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    @payeng while I completely agree with you on this part, the point which I was trying to put across was that riders need to be educated about effective braking - and I am not talking of a few thousand riders on this forum, but the millions of riders on the roads who still don't know proper braking. I have seen several people locking their rear wheels and crashing side-on at some intersection, or rear-ending some big vehicle just because they rely entirely on rear brakes.
    Bro, you're forgetting one thing that's even more primitive that locking rear wheels. Most of us are taught to use rear brakes because disc brakes apparently are dangerous and can cause you to skid. Hence, such people don't buy bikes with rear discs. Heck, most of Indian commuters use conventional drum brakes on both wheels.
    Take Mahindra's latest Pantero as an example. The guy who started his ownership thread says that rear brakes (both are drums) have more bite than front - on a new bike! This is because mst people favour rear brakes.

    Why can't Mahindra include a pamphlet or something to explain people the correct technique? Why on earth do we have such large discs on the front wheel? Puja karne k liye?
    When the manufacturers are themselves such sadists, one can't expect much for the normal non enthusiast crowd!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Bro, you're forgetting one thing that's even more primitive that locking rear wheels. Most of us are taught to use rear brakes because disc brakes apparently are dangerous and can cause you to skid. Hence, such people don't buy bikes with rear discs. Heck, most of Indian commuters use conventional drum brakes on both wheels.
      Take Mahindra's latest Pantero as an example. The guy who started his ownership thread says that rear brakes (both are drums) have more bite than front - on a new bike! This is because mst people favour rear brakes.

      Why can't Mahindra include a pamphlet or something to explain people the correct technique? Why on earth do we have such large discs on the front wheel? Puja karne k liye?
      When the manufacturers are themselves such sadists, one can't expect much for the normal non enthusiast crowd!
      Testified. I've had people go to the extent of calling me a wise-ass for advocating near exclusive usage of front brakes and proceeding to say "karo sirf disc brake use (a karizma with only front disc), giroge har 2 din mein hume kya?"

      When I pointed out all superbikes have 2 massive discs in the front and only a small disc at the back, the rebuttal was that the rear tyre is wider, so it needs less brake force. I have no idea what that is supposed to mean because I gave up at that point.

      Getting back on topic though. Given the sad state of Indian roads, ABS is of FAR more utility to us folks then most people in developed countries. So, I hope we can see this cheap ABS system at least as an option in our commuter bikes.
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      • #18
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Bro, you're forgetting one thing that's even more primitive that locking rear wheels. Most of us are taught to use rear brakes because disc brakes apparently are dangerous and can cause you to skid. Hence, such people don't buy bikes with rear discs. Heck, most of Indian commuters use conventional drum brakes on both wheels.
          Take Mahindra's latest Pantero as an example. The guy who started his ownership thread says that rear brakes (both are drums) have more bite than front - on a new bike! This is because mst people favour rear brakes.
          I think this practice started from the scooters of yore, which a rear-biased weight distribution and hence, rear brakes gave a feeling of added stability and it felt unsafe to use the front brakes extensively because of the relatively weightless front end - I feel jittery using the discs on an Aviator even today!

          Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
          Correct me If I am wrong!
          Do we need two of these devices, one for front brakes and another for rear brakes if we wish to make both the brakes ABS enabled? I hope this should logically work.
          That may end up more expensive than a single unit which could control both wheels.
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          • #20
            [/MENTION] Hey bro can you please elaborate the difference between ABS and c-abs...? Sorry for the noob question..., I tried goggled it but could not understand it properly...
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            • #21
              Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post
              @aargee Hey bro can you please elaborate the difference between ABS and c-abs...? Sorry for the noob question..., I tried goggled it but could not understand it properly...
              Kindly go through this & pls get back for specific questions

              Honda C-ABS | Ash On Bikes
              Why to choose ABS (and Honda C-ABS in particular).... - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

              Otherwise, watch how the brakes works on Honda Activa Combined Brakes; much easier to understand
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              • #22
                Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post
                @aargee Hey bro can you please elaborate the difference between ABS and c-abs...? Sorry for the noob question..., I tried goggled it but could not understand it properly...
                Assuming you understand what the function of ABS is, the "c" part of c-ABS means "combined". This comes from combined braking, which implies that when you apply rear brake only, the bike will automatically use a bit of front brake as well, to increase the stopping power. However, if you apply front brake only, the bike will only provide stopping power from front brakes.

                In short :
                ABS : Anti-lock braking system
                CBS : Combined braking system
                c-ABS : CBS + ABS


                Edit : @aargee beat me to it, but i'll just leave this here, since I took the effort of typing the whole thing :\
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dishayu View Post
                  Assuming you understand what the function of ABS is, the "c" part of c-ABS means "combined". This comes from combined braking, which implies that when you apply rear brake only, the bike will automatically use a bit of front brake as well, to increase the stopping power. However, if you apply front brake only, the bike will only provide stopping power from front brakes.

                  In short :
                  ABS : Anti-lock braking system
                  CBS : Combined braking system
                  c-ABS : CBS + ABS


                  Edit : @aargee beat me to it, but i'll just leave this here, since I took the effort of typing the whole thing :\
                  I would like to add the The marketing word
                  "Combined Braking"
                  In some scooters these days is not ABS/ C-ABS
                  Its just a mechanical breaking with different threshold to the front and rear wheel at the same time
                  And Yeah correct me if I'm wrong.
                  Last edited by Hackdrag; 08-02-2013, 07:54 PM. Reason: techinal update, grammer
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                  • #24
                    New Videos from Continental

                    Hay there!
                    The german company Continental has published some new Videos about Motorcycles with Anti-Lock-System.



                    Just wanted to show it to you
                    Have a nice day!

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                    • #25
                      Re: New Videos from Continental

                      Originally posted by Continental ABS View Post
                      Hay there!
                      The german company Continental has published some new Videos about Motorcycles with Anti-Lock-System.
                      Approved and merged!
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                      • #26
                        Re: New Videos from Continental

                        Originally posted by Continental ABS View Post
                        Hay there!
                        The german company Continental has published some new Videos about Motorcycles with Anti-Lock-System.



                        Just wanted to show it to you
                        Have a nice day!
                        Do you represent Continental? Just asking because of your username. If yes, I got some questions for you.
                        I am back!

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