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**joeantony** · 01-07-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

That's quite surprising actually, looking at the numbers of FZs and R15s running around in our cities. But where they have missed out is the sales in rural areas and that's where Hero and Bajaj have managed to rack up big volumes in the past.

True, but Yamaha rules only in the 150cc segment, the sub 150cc is something they need to concentrate.

**bbsrailfan** · 01-07-2014, 05:21 PM

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Yes, the Gladiator/SS125 and the YBR125 are the only 125s in Yamaha's lineup, and they are a decade old. Even though they are very good bikes, they have been suffering from poor sales due to their poor mileage and they have never seen an upgrade since the day they were launched.

Does Yamaha have a 100 cc in their lineup? I recall they had a model called Alba 105 or something...is it still available?

**Naveen1985** · 01-07-2014, 05:48 PM

Re: December 2013 Two Wheeler Sales: xBhp News

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Yes, the Gladiator/SS125 and the YBR125 are the only 125s in Yamaha's lineup, and they are a decade old. Even though they are very good bikes, they have been suffering from poor sales due to their poor mileage and they have never seen an upgrade since the day they were launched.

Does Yamaha have a 100 cc in their lineup? I recall they had a model called Alba 105 or something...is it still available?

their website is showing crux also...

MG · 01-07-2014, 05:52 PM

Re: December 2013 Two Wheeler Sales: xBhp News

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Does Yamaha have a 100 cc in their lineup? I recall they had a model called Alba 105 or something...is it still available?

Yes they have two bikes YBR110 and Crux in 100cc space.
Yamaha in the mind stands only for performance bikes in India so they need to focus more on the sports category or even a good looking 125cc can give them volumes of 8000-10000 per month.

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Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Does Yamaha have a 100 cc in their lineup? I recall they had a model called Alba 105 or something...is it still available?

Yes they have two bikes YBR110 and Crux in 100cc space.
Yamaha in the mind stands only for performance bikes in India so they need to focus more on the sports category or even a good looking 125cc can give them volumes of 8000-10000 per month.

**abhiiceman** · 01-07-2014, 11:03 PM

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if this trend continues bajaj should forget honda and compete with TVS..really dont know why theirs sales are falling every month despite best bikes

**Sal** · 01-08-2014, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post

if this trend continues bajaj should forget honda and compete with TVS..really dont know why theirs sales are falling every month despite best bikes

Its because of their after sales service and reliability of the vehicle. Once a person owns a Bajaj, there is a very lean chance that he would go for Bajaj again for his next ride!
Same's the case with me as well

, i would really think a 100 times before going for Bajaj again..
They really need to focus primarily on their ASS (after sale service

) and second comes the reliability!

Plus, until now they had their major sales in Pulsar 150s and the Discovers. But people have now started realizing that its worthwhile to pay more for a more reliable engine and a better A.S.S (Honda, Yamaha)

**bbsrailfan** · 01-08-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Sal View Post

a better A.S.S (Honda,

Honda definitely does not have a better A.s.s (minus the dots, that is!), but yes, would agree that Yammie is better.

**abhiiceman** · 01-08-2014, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Sal View Post

Its because of their after sales service and reliability of the vehicle. Once a person owns a Bajaj, there is a very lean chance that he would go for Bajaj again for his next ride!
Same's the case with me as well

, i would really think a 100 times before going for Bajaj again..
They really need to focus primarily on their ASS (after sale service

) and second comes the reliability!

Plus, until now they had their major sales in Pulsar 150s and the Discovers. But people have now started realizing that its worthwhile to pay more for a more reliable engine and a better A.S.S (Honda, Yamaha)

Bajaj vehicles do not have the most refined engines but definitely they Are not unreliable

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**sambit** · 01-08-2014, 10:51 PM

Re: December 2013 Two Wheeler Sales: xBhp News

Originally posted by Sal View Post

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Plus, until now they had their major sales in Pulsar 150s and the Discovers. But people have now started realizing that its worthwhile to pay more for a more reliable engine and a better A.S.S (Honda, Yamaha)

Though its going OT, But let me tell you, Honda has the worst ASS in India atleast. second comes Bajaj. And yes, Yamaha's management are best every where.... TVS is inconsistent.... at my place, its great, but else where you will find many complains(But atleast they listen, Honda never listens).

**vicedens2002** · 01-09-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post

Bajaj vehicles do not have the most refined engines but definitely they Are not unreliable

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Sorry for OT.. Does a refined engine increases the life of a engine ?
P.S. I have Bajaj discover 125ST

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**sparky** · 01-09-2014, 10:53 AM

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I personally don't think Bajaj bikes are unreliable because I have owned the first Discover125 for 8 years now and it runs just fine. I think most problems are caused by bad maintenance and misuse/harsh use of bikes. Pulsars are good to rip but they take their toll on the bike and it shows and ironically it's usually blokes on Pulsars who rip their bikes causing this impression of unreliable bike.

**princesirohi** · 01-09-2014, 11:37 AM

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ha ha... this thread is going OT, control your emotions guys..

**Bibhu** · 01-09-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Sal View Post

Its because of their after sales service and reliability of the vehicle. Once a person owns a Bajaj, there is a very lean chance that he would go for Bajaj again for his next ride!
Same's the case with me as well

, i would really think a 100 times before going for Bajaj again..
They really need to focus primarily on their ASS (after sale service

) and second comes the reliability!

Plus, until now they had their major sales in Pulsar 150s and the Discovers. But people have now started realizing that its worthwhile to pay more for a more reliable engine and a better A.S.S (Honda, Yamaha)

I have owned a 180 classic for 8 years, and 220 for 4 years and am planning to buy yet another when the 375 arrives as there is no good twin cylinder bike available as of now and a 375 single is my next choice. Suffice to say, I find bajaj bikes reliable

Bajaj bikes may require comparatively more maintainance but they are easier to own than any other bike in India due to their cheap and abundantly available spares and easy to fix engines.

Since you brought in honda and yamaha, honda is a pain in the back side to own, due to their bad attitude and serious lack of spares(basic spares like break pads and indicator glass etc.). Yamaha has good asc but spare availability is another issue.

I have said it before, lack of scooters in bajaj's line up is hurting their sales badly. They should bring in atleast 2 automatic scooters.

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**111diablo111** · 01-09-2014, 04:25 PM

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Honda is eating up the sales of Hero & Bajaj..recently I read on Motoroids that -

Readers should know that the Honda Activa is the single largest selling two-wheeler models in India now, having displaced the Hero Splendor from the No.1 spot

how true is this?? Splendor claimed to be No.1 selling bike in the world!!

**abhiiceman** · 01-09-2014, 05:41 PM

Re: December 2013 Two Wheeler Sales: xBhp News

Originally posted by vicedens2002 View Post

Sorry for OT.. Does a refined engine increases the life of a engine ?
P.S. I have Bajaj discover 125ST

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refinement has nothing to do with engine life its just that they are not as smooth as the japanese ,btw im talking about p220 or prior engines ,newer engines are more refined...no matter its a bajaj , honda or any brand maintainance in the key for long engine life else even a merc or beemer can be termed as unreliable..

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