Re: Triumph Compensates Over Indian Power Confusion

An unexpected thing happened I must say, but by looking into the pressure around the India region by owners and others there has be something to compensate those who bought the bike already, even I saw somewhere this 25-27 BHP is making not much difference, but cheating is cheating.
I was expecting the price drop of at least most affected Triumph ST, But this indecent definitely affected the image of Triumph drastically and sales as well.

Re: Triumph Compensates Over Indian Power Confusion

So, for claiming 32% more power falsely, these guys are offering only 1 Lac Rupees which is what 11% the total price? I very well know power to rupee conversion is not an accurate way, but should it be this big a difference?

My frank questions to Triumph are:-

1. Would a 79 bhp naked bike sell at 6.50 Lacs ex-showroom anyways (this is Ex showroom - Rs. 1 Lacs)?

2. On the contrary, given an open offer, which motorcycle owner in the world would agree to take 1 Lac, and get his machine purposely detuned by 25%? (Unless he's in financial trouble)

3. For an owner which is the better option amongst the below two?

a. compromising on 25% power and getting 1 Lacs benefit,
b. compromising on only 7 bhp over a new Street Triple, some extra weight, reducing one cylinder, a different design/ feel, and saving around Rs. 4 lacs to get the ER 6n?


I'm not sure, but Triumph's math is a bit too weak, (or should I say too strong if they succeed in this trickery).


Indian News Links:

Triumph India offering compensation to Street Triple owners| ZigWheels.com
Triumph India compensates Street Triple owners over misleading power figures | Motoroids.com

These links confirm that there will be no complete cash back offer... I guess, these guys do need a trip to the court.

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Re: Triumph Compensates Over Indian Power Confusion

He He, Triumph guys and their dealers are very confused. When they screw things up they call it a confusion. For the compensation:
They have closed the compensation offer on 24th as per the Cochin dealer.

And you know what to expect when some owners say 'NO' to the peanuts offered.

Triumph India is in the false belief that they are out without damage . Hehe.

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These are bloody pennies that British makers are compensating. This is close to nothing for them.

Samarth, this is not a question of weak math, they know us, precisely. Reduce power by 25% and compensate anything in 6 figures people will be happy and then everyone forgets are gets used to it.

What I wanted them to do is, recall all the batch of bikes, get it to the EU standard and sell the remaining lot with same power as EU. Would they do that? No they wouldnt!

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Guys, see I told you that the bikes were running different maps. Now they have accepted it and let go off the bullshit "ARAI testing" claim. They have ruined their image in front of the bikers (They are targeting the enthusiasts here in India, who care about missing ponies.)


I have a better suggestion to existing owners, spend the 1 lac rupees to import parts from Europe and make it "Euro-spec", I tried flashing the Euro map, but I get misfires on the normal petrol. I guess you'll have to cough up the extra dough and always fill premium petrol.

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So are you are able to get the claimed Euro spec power rating of 106PS after re-mapping?

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Couldn't get a dyno that would let me measure it, but there was increase in power after the remapping. I think there are difference in the cylinder head but I have yet to confirm it, the owner of that bike isn't too enthusiastic about getting the "engine" opened.

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Is it possible that Visordown has taken those figures from our very own XBHP? Because the 1 lakh and 1.5 lakh figures are consistent.

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Compensation for past buyers, but same price for new ones? This whole incident is really an eye opening experience of how these firms are taking Indian buyers as granted. I am now curious who will still go for a knowingly underpowered vehicle for such high an amount. Besides, 1L for 25% less power is pittance. Heck Suzuki Inazuma refunded 1L out of a 3.5L cost because of cost reduction, a 30% refund. Here what's the final % of refund? 10%?

I must say that if no one takes this matters forwards, the affected owners are either zen masters or sheeps, either way not caring how they are treated.

Re: Triumph Compensates Over Indian Power Confusion

I think the way they are compensating suggests they are taking the Indian market for granted. Had that not been the case, they would surely have reduced the price for the new customers.