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News approved!

Re: Hero MotoCorp Bringing Product development back to India: xBhp News

Can someone shed light on how good is the Hero RnD team. I was reading a very nice paper written on the effect of JV split, which mentioned that Honda would be helping Hero for three and half years after they split.

I for sure know that they have a new RnD centre in Rajasthan. But want to know, how good is it? One of my friends, has a friend working for them and he said that they have no clue about the new concepts that are shown at the auto expo. Munjals have a cooepration with foreign companies (EBR, Magneti marelli, Engines Engineering) and that they develop the concepts. Wouldnt it be more fruitful if they train their RnD members then relying on foregin help?

Re: Hero MotoCorp Bringing Product development back to India: xBhp News

That, only the future can tell, after we see how the new products perform.

That's how business is sustained, knowledge transfer and support is always in the ambit of JVs.

IIRC, I read somewhere that Hero took a select few people to EBR so that they work with the folks on site and learn. And not just learn, provide the same knowledge back to people at base! I do hope that HMC is following the same procedure. And regarding your friend's friend who has no clue on what's happening around, I'd avoid him until I'm proven wrong!

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Ya true that, but I really hope that they get their act straight. They have given us so many great products, new ones. I only wish they spend their resources wisely so that we have a major Indian player in the world scene.



Thanks to the smart thinking by the erstwhile government, which only allowed JVs as a means to enter the Indian market. Look at how the Indian companies have developed, amazing. When compared to us, our chinese counterparts are lacking far behind.



Thats heartnening to know. I wish there comes a day when we are so technically strong, that people from other countries visit us for our technology. I wish more enthusiast take up motorcycling as their profession rather than just a hobby.

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Been saying that for ages, but these local manufacturers don't seem to think that local engineers can be of same value as outsourcing R&D for a price

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I am an engineer myself, a half baked one albeit. How many engineers are actually serious about their profession, a handful. And out of that how many would actually want to go into the motorcycle industry. A very few, at the max.

We need the motorcycle companies, to take an intitative to develop the young engineers, to give them a chance. The HR needs to go for passionate people and not just people with degrees.

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Engineer myself and i'm saying that because if you're not from a reputed IIT you won't be hired into automotive firms without experience, 5-8 years is minimum for R&D as per my research. Say you graduate from non IIT at 22 years old, you will be in your 30s when you get into R&D if you stuck to the field with 5-8 years of experience at the least. This is in contrast to the Japanese engineering where a team of senior engineers will hire young graduates in their 20s and directly work on a new platform to create new bikes with strict supervision of the more experienced ones. The CBR650F is one such example.

You can maybe get into production line or sales division via interviews but R&D and other Engineering expertise area is more or less reserved for IITians, who mostly leave country anyway after graduation in search of greener pastures

Been a year since i graduated and i'm itching between going the startup way now or writing automotive reviews for a friend who's set to start his media/magazine biz.

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Ya true that, IIT = job. But as students in India, we don't partake summer internships in automotive companies. Forget that, if you are really passionate you can work with the mechanics too, but we somehow are not guided properly.

See the problem is passionate people, dont get into the industry. If we do, we can change the way things work. I for my part am doing a bit. I am sure I will make into Indian two wheeler industry, sooner than later. Want to get, passionate people in. And try and change the mindset we have.

Go the start up way, Nitesh. you will learn so much more.

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During my MBA time, the head HR of Honda India and a person from Honda Japan had come on campus for recruitment.
I went up to them and expressed a (heavy) dose of interest in working there. But I got nowhere because -
1) The head HR of Honda India HR told me they can afford only some management trainees from Amity and the likes
2) The recruitment was being done for Honda Japan and they were looking for absolute freshers who would live and work in Japan, along with other global recruits and thereafter be posted to Honda Europe or USA with no option of an India posting ever. As I was not a fresher it was not possible.

My opinion is that opportunities for getting into this industry are very few - I even pestered some other companies but no results there either.

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This is precisely why after my 10+2 i opted to get into Diploma first in Automobile engineering before taking up BE in Mechanical. I'm glad i did that because Automobile engineering isn't as mainstream as other courses and the small number of engg colleges offering the course is a good demonstration of that. It was a headache to see very little automotive subjects being touched upon in Mechanical engineering where our outdated syllabus focussed more towards thermal/fluid/wind and other types of energy and made IC engines an optional subject. DME was the only saving grace there.

Our syllabus is so screwed up and so old, the other countries are leaps and bounds ahead. Just a few years ago we were introduced to smart materials. The batches before us don't even know what it is.
I'm open to taking up any job for the time being as long as its not a 9-5 6 days a week. Need the weekends off to work on the startup side aswell.

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Thats great to know Nitesh, With people like you joining in, I am pretty sure we are going to have amazing machines sooner than later. I wish I would have been allowed to take automotive engineering, my parents were cool enough with me taking Mechanical, but said automotive is a bit too narrow. Atleast I did my masters in automotive management. And will do automotive engineering, part time just to learn about the technical side of things, though I am more of a management guy myself.

Consider doing your masters from either Germany or Italy, some amazing courses.

Re: Hero MotoCorp Bringing Product development back to India: xBhp News

Came across this article in motorcycle.com The Wild, The Innocent, And The EBR Shuffle.

Apprently, the EBR saga is not yet over. The really interesting part is that the fight for designs and work which Hero had commissioned EBR seems to be continuing. This gives doubt to some of the statements made by Hero that it has acquired all the prototypes and designs of the bikes EBR was working on.

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