Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

So, basically its a device which if Hero, Bajaj, etc. would use, then they would have to go hybrid, is it?
I hope it can be used it in sync with their existing bikes, I mean, the Karizma ZMR for example, with electric start and motor, I hope is able to use this directly...

Otherwise, I think Tork and Ather Energy can use this system well, because its predominantly electric...

Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

This is not a true Hybrid system..It is just a High Value Capacitor in place of a Battery to store the energy required for the starting and running of an engine....how long the charge will hold is a question...capacitors like battery have internal resistance which bleed the charge over time...
That said the capacitor will attain full charge faster than a conventional battery....If Repeated Cranking of engine is done without engine starting, then it will bleed the charge and no more power will be available for further cranking...This is where the standard battery scores over the Capacitors...If one wishes to install a large enough capacitor to ensure battery like performance , it must be a large value, and cost will be very high....As of now the Technology is feasible for daily runners and engines in good condition starting on first crank...

Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

exactly i was wondering the same, so capacitors are used to store the charge instead of battery so weight saving in place of battery, but how does it improve fuel consumption??

to do that you need to connect a motor to the drivetrain, and capacitors cant power a motor for long.

need more details of this system.

Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

Thanks sir for the insight. They're saying the device weighs at about 5 kgs, so it may be a huge capacitor, although I agree about capacitor's limited capacity to crank a bike beyond a few cranks, may be.

From past experience, I do know that the engine crank is torquey enough to run the bike too... (when my clutch cable broke once, I had to start it the jerky way of cranking in 1st gear!)

Maybe their plan is to run the engine with electricity when running constant and at that time, the engine won't be fuelled and will run empty cycles of just air and without spark, running it purely on charge from the so called super-capacitor, which powers the crank motor...
Then on getting fuelled again, this super capacitor gets charged again!
Since the engine is in motion already, it will take just some miliseconds to shift between fuelling and electricity, if the ECU/ Carburetor shows compliance with this system... This could save fuel when you're doing commuting at idle speeds.

Sir, do you think what I described is happening here, or is it something else? (assuming that its a real system)

Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

A True Hybrid vehicle runs on Two types of energy...One the conventional Petrol powered engine and the other mostly electrical power.....The most successful implementation of this theme is as follows...when the engine is accelerating the Petrol engine gives necessary power for both acceleration and charge of battery..when the vehicle is cruising , a switch over to the electrical motor is made and it keeps the vehicle cruising smoothly, while the Petrol engine is starved of fuel and either shut down or is at idle...this saves a lot of Petrol . Another form is Petrol engine with electrical assist which is ideal even for city use.....Another fully Green concept Car recently Licensed for production is the Full Electrical Car running with batteries whose Electrolyte is Salt Water....For 200 Liters it can do 600 Kms , when the whole Salt Water would be neutralized , and must be replace....It has a 0- 100 Kmph speed in 2.8 seconds...and burns nothing with no exhaust emissions...
The car is called QUANT-E



The QUANTINO smaller version on production on the streets of Zurich



show reel of the Quantino... after 14 hrs non stop drive still has 78% power left..

Re: A hybrid device to reduce two-wheelers fuel consumption by 38%

There are many technologies available to reduce fuel consumption.
But problem is no one want to take step ahead for revolutionary changes. Better engines may stop their income which require less maintenance. It is directly proportional to the income of manufacturers. They move market in the direction they want. Govts are just facilitating their needs. Public is just getting sucked by these vehicle manufacturers.
A hybrid scooter can give better milage than any other vehicle. A lightweight bike can go more km with good power and combination of milage.