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    Default Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    Honda has unveiled the CBR 1000RR SP as well as SP2 Fireblade at INTERMOT in Cologne, Germany on 4th October 2016.


    The new Fireblade SP is of less weight, more power and electronics to help the rider wherever and however theyre riding.


    The new electronic control system provides constant, selectable and fine-tunable rider support. Central to the system is the 5-axis Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU), which measures exactly what the machine is doing, in every plane. It works the Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC) that precisely manages rear wheel traction via the FI-ECU and Throttle By Wire (TBW). The new ABS (also managed by the IMU) offers Rear Lift Control (RLC) and the ability for hard, safe trail braking into corners. Any difference measured between the front and rear wheel speeds engages Wheelie Control, depending on settings.


    It also works with the Ohlins Objective Based Tuning Interface to adjust both the compression and rebound damping force of the semi-active hlins Electronic Control (S-EC) front fork and rear shock. For the rider this means access to a whole new level of handling ability, with suspension reaction whether working through pre-sets or manual input that delivers exactly the right amount of control in every situation. It functions as well on the road as it does the track, and for Honda a new era begins.


    At the same time as the S-EC is working the suspension, the Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC) is precisely managing rear wheel traction through the IMU, FI-ECU and Throttle ByWire (TBW). It also delivers a Wheelie Control function.


    Three standard display modes Street, Circuit and Mechanic provide all theinformation required for the rider relevant to the type of riding. The information displayed can be fine-tuned and adjusted while riding by using the left hand switch gear and TFT liquid crystal display, just as on the RC213V-S, Hondas road going version of its RC213V MotoGP machine.


    While the electronic control is very much a new departure for the Fireblade, the combination of the other two factors draws faithfully on the philosophy of the original 1992 machine: the optimal balance of power and weight. The engine revs harder and higher, with a much higher compression ratio and revised cam timing, and uses the TBW (a first for an inline four-cylinder Honda) and Acceleration Position Sensor (APS) which have been inspired by the technology developed for the RC213V-S
    Bottom end torque and power are improved, with a significant increase in top-end power up 8kW to 141kW @13,000rpm and 3modes of engine output character can be chosen from. A Quickshifter is fitted as standard, as is Downshift Assist (with autoblipper) and new assist slipper clutch.


    The smart use of magnesium and careful assessment and lightening of individual parts the engine also carries 2kg less. The new titanium exhaust muffler saves further weight and aids mass centralisation, as does the titanium petrol tank. Overall the Fireblade SP is 15kg lighter than the outgoing model, with a wet weight of 195kg.


    The twin-spar aluminium frames rigidity balance has been finely adjusted, and the swingarm is stiffer to match. A new rear subframe is lighter as are the redesigned wheels, while Brembo monobloc four-piston front brake calipers use high-performance track-ready brake pads.


    The Fireblade SPs bodywork outlines an aggressive, functional minimalism, and the machine is slimmer and much more compact with a single seat unit fitted as standard. All lighting is LED and the stunning Tri-Colour paintwork on a red base harks back to Honda racing history.










    The CBR 1000RR SP2 is a road legal homologation special using the Fireblade SP as a base having some of the key features like, Marchesini wheels, revised cylinder head; valves, combustion chambers and pistons and an available racing kit.


    Visually the carbon pattern insets and gold striping interwoven into the Tricolour paint mark the Fireblade SP2s difference over the stock machine and gold Marchesini wheels (reducing front/rear wheel inertia by 18/9%) are another clue. But the real differences and what gives the Fireblade SP2 ultimate racing potential lie inside the engine and, in turn, the parts that can be added from the two race kits that will be available.


    While the 76mm bore is identical to the SP1 the Fireblade SP2 cylinder head runs 1mm larger 31.5mm diameter intake valves and 1.5mm larger 25.5mm diameter exhaust valves, with 10/12 included valve intake/exhaust included valve angles (from 11/11). The valve pitches are identical, maintaining cylinder head width.
    It runs the same 13.0:1 compression ratio but uses valve shapes and combustion chambers optimised for efficiency. Elongated spark plugs and a water jacket tightly wrapped around the combustion chambers improve cooling; this technology is derived directly from Hondas RC213V MotoGP machine.


    The pistons use an exclusive crown design with heat treatment that strengthens the area around the piston boss, which itself employs a 2.5mm shorter (and 8g lighter per cylinder) piston pin. Ready to house high-lift camshafts the outer diameter of the valve lifter has grown 2mm to 28mm, while total height and thickness have been reduced saving weight.


    The Fireblade SP2s electronic control devices are the same as those of the SP, with exclusive SP2 settings. For both race and general circuit use, a racing kit will be available.










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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    8Kw up, 15 kgs down. New Blade sits at 191.76 ps @ 195 kg from the previous 180ps@210 kg(ABS).

    The SP-2 is the homologation version and only 500 units will be made. It comes fitted with lightweight Marchesini wheels. Honda will offer two different kits for track racers, neither of which are road legal for obvious reasons.
    1) Sport Kit
    2) Race kit.

    MCN has listed all the changes here:
    SP version:
    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/n...-fireblade-sp/


    SP-2 version:
    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/n...ation-special/
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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    I thought they said they will go the non Electronic way with the standard blade.
    This makes the blade on par with the competition. With the new GSXR also about to come, boy the 1000CC market is ready for a slugfest.

    I am still not fond of the front end looks. The back though looks nice. Honda designers can design some really nice back sides. I don't why cant they design a decent front end. The new CBR500 is an exception. Its front end is pretty gorgeous.

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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    They're always looking for form over function. Almost all Japanese brands are that way. They don't build SBKs or SS bikes for aesthetics. Yamaha moved the headlight out of the front cowling to provide a smoother air flow as possible.



    The Fireblade had a chin spoiler in the last avatar:



    And the 600RR was as aerodynamically efficient as the RC212V:




    Anyway here's the launch video:

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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Nithesh View Post


    Anyway here's the launch video:

    I haven't read it anywhere yet. Any idea if the SP2 will be used in WSBK 2017? Hayden is good marketing material for Honda's superbikes. He will be even better marketing material if he can race at the pointy end in WSBK alongside new teammate Stefan Bradl.

    Will also be interesting to see how this fares at the IOM TT with McGuinness on board.
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    Quickshifter for both up AND down? Whaat!
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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by XeonGhos7 View Post
    Quickshifter for both up AND down? Whaat!
    Its been there for quite a while now, lots of manufacturers have it
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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    I haven't read it anywhere yet. Any idea if the SP2 will be used in WSBK 2017? Hayden is good marketing material for Honda's superbikes. He will be even better marketing material if he can race at the pointy end in WSBK alongside new teammate Stefan Bradl.

    Will also be interesting to see how this fares at the IOM TT with McGuinness on board.

    The SP-2 is referred to as the Homologation special. 500 units will be made and you need to have a racing license to be able to buy one and then get the non street legal racing kits.

    This link says its called the FIM Homologation special:
    http://http://www.roadracingworld.co...erbike-racing/


    So there's a good chance Hayden might get to ride it. Although as far as I know the WSBK rules stated a manufacturer needs to produce a 125 units of model prior to being homologated, and then in the first 6 months has to sell 500 units, and by the end of first year needs to sell 1000 units and then 2000 units by the end of next year.

    Bimota BB3 was disqualified after they passed the first 125 unit homologation since they could not sell 500 and more units within the timeframe. This was in 2014.

    Honda might be clubbing the SP-1 and SP2 to meet those sales requirements for next year.

    The v4 RVF is scheduled to arrive by the end of 2018 and there is talks going on that it might take over the Fireblade's role in WSBK after 2018. Its also expected to be an expensive track tool at $30k a piece. It looks like they ditched the third option that was a cheaper RC213V-S. Honda may not be building the 200 units of the GP replica they intended to build before 2017 since the plant was closed for a few months owing to quake damage and now they won't be able to build enough units before Euro 4 is enforced.
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    Thanks for the very detailed reply
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    Default Re: Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade SP and SP2 unveiled at Intermot 2016

    Guys, I have just received the pricing from Honda for the new Fireblades:

    Standard Ex Showroom Delhi: 1760964
    On Road: 1925065
    Colours: Victory Red/ Matt Ballistic

    SP Ex showroom Delhi: 2170597
    On Road: 2372512
    Colours: Victory Red

    1% TCS will be applicable on total sales consideration as per govt. notification.


    Excellent pricing in my opinion.
    The standard is priced right in the ZX10R price range.
    The SP with its electronic suspension is much cheaper than the closest rival having it, the R1M. The R1M is supposed to be around 26 Ex showroom.

    Let the new dreams begin

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