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    Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.



    Earlier, Volkswagen was reportedly planning to sell the Italian two-wheeler brand to compensate for the losses made due to the dieselgate controversy. The only question left to be answered was, to whom?

    We've heard of rumors at different times, of various companies to purchase Ducati, including Royal Enfield, Harley Davidson and Hero Motocorp. Guess what? Maybe these companies did have talks with VW at different times, but now there's an interesting revelation by Bajaj Auto.

    KTM, in which Bajaj Auto has about 48% equity stake is said to be closing in on the Ducati brand, which is on the selling block. The announcement is likely to be made in the next two weeks.



    Speaking at the 10th annual general meeting, Rajiv Bajaj, MD of Bajaj Auto said, “We are very close to finalising a very promising alliance, it’s not certain, that it will happen, but if it happens, it will open up enormous possibilities for the company. That is why we keep our money (cash on books) with us, so, once in a while, when an opportunity comes along, we are ready.”

    Meanwhile, reports indicate that Volkswagen’s powerful labor unions is strongly opposing the sale of the Italian brand. Volkswagen group’s works council said in an e-mail, “Ducati is a jewel, the sale of which is not supported by the labor representatives on Volkswagen’s supervisory board.”


    This news got mostly positive responses on social media.
    While most are excited at this awesome prospect, a few people raise questions on the influence of this deal on Ducati's product quality and the future of the brand.
    Naturally, it would be pragmatic to expect that Ducati's factory environment & suppliers should not be that adversely affected by the acquisition. A case study of Jagaur and Land Rover acquisition further clarifies that probably there's a lot more positive, than negative.


    However, all this is, if this actually takes place... From the hints, we can only join the dotted lines, not announce anything loud and clear.

    We shall, probably within the month of August, know what this was about, and whether this deal will go through or not.



    Source: https://www.motoroids.com/news/ktm-s...-in-two-weeks/ & Economic Times.

    Lot more details here:- http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/59685848.cms


    Guys, what do you think about this possibility?
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    Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

    Looks like dominar is now going to be officially renamed as Diavel 400 [emoji4]

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    • #3
      Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

      Bajaj has said something about a tie-up to assemble and sell premium cruise motorcycles, that doesn't sound like Ducati though -

      The Times Group

      He said the company will soon announce a tie-up to make (assemble) and sell “lazy motorcycles“, (premium cruise motorcycles) in the next couple of weeks.

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        Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

        “We are very close to finalising a very promising alliance, it’s not certain, that it will happen, but if it happens, it will open up enormous possibilities for the company. That is why we keep our money (cash on books) with us, so, once in a while, when an opportunity comes along, we are ready.”

        He has mentioned something about alliance and not acquiring. Hence I feel it isn't going to be Ducati acquisition!!

        Let's see what's going to happen..
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          Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
          He has mentioned something about alliance and not acquiring. Hence I feel it isn't going to be Ducati acquisition!!
          Let's see what's going to happen..
          Originally posted by _kamikaze_ View Post
          Bajaj has said something about a tie-up to assemble and sell premium cruise motorcycles, that doesn't sound like Ducati though -
          The Times Group
          Like a cheaper Scrambler perhaps?
          To deal with Royal Enfield, when the Dominar couldn't with its modern appeal?

          Agreed with "Alliance", but what kind of alliance would require so much of spare cash, that Rajiv Bajaj actually mentions it in a AGM?

          "That is why we keep our money (cash on books) with us, so, once in a while, when an opportunity comes along, we are ready."


          Although, you guys may be right. It might just be a case of misinterpreted words, but we've known from the past that Rajiv Bajaj was a big fan of Ducati motorcycle. Maybe that's the reason why websites and journalists expect this to happen?

          Probably, it might just be an agreement to manufacture Scrambler here, and not a full on acquisition..? Let's see, time will tell.
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            Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

            Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
            He has mentioned something about alliance and not acquiring. Hence I feel it isn't going to be Ducati acquisition!!

            Let's see what's going to happen..
            An 'Alliance' is what is going to make more sense.. just like they do with ktm (they don't own ktm outright, just a stake in the company). this gives bajaj access to tech and in return gives ktm access to more markets and lower labor costs. Everybody wins. Look at the baby ktm's , they seem to be a hit in every market they are present in.. and prior to this bajaj tie up ktm really did not have a small capacity city friendly motorcycle (most smaller capacity ones were dirt/enduro)

            Appreciate bajaj for opening up to beyond the commuter segment in India and wishing them all the best hope they fix up something with ducati and launch baby a ducati at a mouth watering price point.
            This way the vw labor folks would be happy to continue to engineer and produce bigger bikes while smaller ones outsourced to India.

            TVS, are you listening ?

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            • #7
              Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

              Originally posted by s1d View Post
              An 'Alliance' is what is going to make more sense.. just like they do with ktm (they don't own ktm outright, just a stake in the company). this gives bajaj access to tech and in return gives ktm access to more markets and lower labor costs.
              But VW is selling Ducati! They aren't looking to just sell part of the stakes! Are they?

              Unless, KTM and Bajaj take 50/50 share of Ducati! This makes sense!
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                Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                VW bought Ducati through Audi.

                Bajaj buys Ducati through KTM?
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                • #9
                  Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                  So, are we expecting a rs. 1.5L Ducati in India?
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                  • #10
                    Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                    Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
                    So, are we expecting a rs. 1.5L Ducati in India?
                    Ya I can already give you the models too -
                    Ducati 100
                    Ducati 110
                    Ducati 125
                    Ducati 135 LS
                    Ducati 150
                    Ducati 160 NS
                    Ducati 180
                    Ducati 200 aircooled for one year and then Ducati 200 NS & AS & RS
                    Ducati 220
                    Ducati 390
                    Ducati 400 cruiser
                    etc etc
                    200 | 300 | 1200 BOXER

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                    • #11
                      Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                      Originally posted by tanay View Post
                      Ya I can already give you the models too -
                      Ducati 100
                      Ducati 110
                      Ducati 125
                      Ducati 135 LS
                      Ducati 150
                      Ducati 160 NS
                      Ducati 180
                      Ducati 200 aircooled for one year and then Ducati 200 NS & AS & RS
                      Ducati 220
                      Ducati 390
                      Ducati 400 cruiser
                      etc etc
                      You left out the 150 and 220 Street
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                      • #12
                        Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                        You left out the 150 and 220 Street
                        I did think of that but you see its too much effort - for example - Monster 150, Diavel 150 in the 150 cc segment. So I put down just the engine cc
                        200 | 300 | 1200 BOXER

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                        • #13
                          Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                          Or maybe the other way around. After dreaming for life and paying your lifetime savings you buy a Panigale 1199 and it has written on it.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                            From what the Bajaj guys said, they aren't looking to buy Ducati. Interest lies elsewhere.

                            Also latest news is that VW isn't looking to sell Ducati!
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                            • #15
                              Re: Rajiv Bajaj drops mild hints of a big acquisition (Ducati?) in the 10th AG Meeting.

                              C'mon i think we are overreacting here. Have you forgotten TATAs acquisition of JLR. Even if Bajaj acquires Ducati it wont ruin the multi billion brand by launching cheap version for Indian road.

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