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**satyenpoojary** · 09-09-2009, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by insane_x97 View Post

for sure Kinetic was always strong with Scooters, but look at the competition now!!
each and every maker has a line up of their own,
while 250 and above segment is totally empty.
i still remember the days when pulsar was launched, it was an instant hit, and still rules the market.
my point is simple, comets were not a bad bike(kinetic service was), at 1,70,000 they were pure value for money.let other makers go the CBU way, why not give people what they want, a decent bike with a decent price tag can do much more then mopeds.
and what about a CBU ninja vs CKD comet!

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

Kinetic was always strong with Scooters... what made you think that Mahindra would bring something that they have no expertise with?

The way I see it is Mahindra will first want to mint some quick money (and\to rope in dealers and distributors) using such fast moving low competition and easy on wallet products....

Then may be into decent bikes for brand building... Importing Hyosung Bikes did more damage to Kinetics reputation than it actually helped... think from an unbiased mind.... would you buy a bike that Kinetic produced all by themselves?

PS: I would love to join Mahindra & Mahindra for the two wheelers marketing!!!

Imagine people being afraid of buying the Ninja because they 'know' Bajaj will have a tough time in servicing them! You think Kinetic\Mahindra can do away with that?

Ofcourse that segment is empty but there are a few issues
1) the BAD reputation of Kinetic in servicing such bikes
2) the Appalling state of diminishing dealers and sales spares network
3) the n00b reputation of Mahindra...

It will be very difficult for Mahindra and Mahindra to jump into a High Ticket product category and 'address' these three consumer perceptions!

What they are doing is simple business sense... sell products that even your age old broke to the core dealer can sell (or think of selling)... pitch a product which is from your forte.... earn some name, some network and some respect (Solutions to problems 1,2,3)
Then probably go to the next fast moving segment of sub 150CC bikes... and then may be premium (if M&M wants to create a premium image)

IMO Mahindra would want to be Another "Bajaj" giving value for money products! any new imports would only for brand building.... (oh and which brand would they bring to India? )

**payeng** · 09-09-2009, 12:53 AM

The Indian 2 wheeler market is replete with motorcycle models and many strong motorcycle brands.. competition is already fierce among established manufacturers.

On the other hand the scooter market has only two serious players, HMSI with (Male centric / Unisex scooters) models like Activa, Dio, Aviator and TVS with its female centric small scooters like Scooty Pep+, Streak.. oh yeah, Suzuki does sell its Activa like Access.

Scooters business would be the natural choice for Mahindra 2 Wheelers.

**satyenpoojary** · 09-09-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

The Indian 2 wheeler market is replete with motorcycle models and many strong motorcycle brands.. competition is already fierce among established manufacturers.

On the other hand the scooter market has only two serious players, HMSI with (Male centric / Unisex scooters) models like Activa, Dio, Aviator and TVS with its female centric small scooters like Scooty Pep+, Streak.. oh yeah, Suzuki does sell its Activa like Access.

Scooters business would be the natural choice for Mahindra 2 Wheelers.

Absolutely agreed! plus they are playing to their strength! which obviously is not really bad..!

**rahuldevnath** · 09-09-2009, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Nio View Post

The kinetic's Nova always were a good scoot.. hopes that Mahindra will bring it back in a even better package

No, the first Nova wasn't! I owed one to 40,000Kms on odo! Major reliability issues!

**insane_x97** · 09-09-2009, 11:52 AM

even bajaj was world leader in scooters, that too for a long time..
everything takes a start,,
ya never know what people like!
p150,180,200,250 legend continues.
even tvs followed the bajaj way,

**pavanchirmade** · 09-09-2009, 07:00 PM

@satyen

dude its Mahindra & Mahindra. and yes those look like the older flyte and the nova

**apacherenator** · 09-09-2009, 11:50 PM

by the way who is this person who runs ******** and how does he get so much of inside information??

**Bunny** · 09-10-2009, 07:14 PM

- The Rodeo is competitively priced at Rs. 41,299 (ex-showroom Pune)
- At Rs. 38,299 (ex-showroom Pune) the Mahindra Duro is a good value for money

For more - http://www.bikeindia.in/news/BikeNew...-new-scooters/

**vas** · 09-10-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Bunny View Post

- The Rodeo is competitively priced at Rs. 41,299 (ex-showroom Pune)
- At Rs. 38,299 (ex-showroom Pune) the Mahindra Duro is a good value for money

For more - Mahindra launches new scooters

^^^bhai "Incorrect link"

**Bunny** · 09-10-2009, 08:05 PM

vaas : give it an hour.. we have been facing these server issues. we can see the story at our end but i guess it takes some time before the world can see it

**vas** · 09-10-2009, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Bunny View Post

vaas : give it an hour.. we have been facing these server issues. we can see the story at our end but i guess it takes some time before the world can see it

oh good.
i am keenly following this thread,
want an urgent replacement for 5yr ol' activa

**ravi@17bhp** · 09-10-2009, 08:27 PM

I am able to access the link. I am completely awestuck and floored by the features they provided with the scooters, particulalry the Rodeo.

Some highlight features of Rodeo:
Digital speedometer and Odometer

Digital Clock
Tachometer

Color changing illuminated speedo console
Side stand buzzer
7-amp battery
Front fuel tank
Large storage spce
Front telescopic suspension
Etc.

This is the kind of scooter I am looking for city rides. But, we have to see how the quality of the bike.

**payeng** · 09-10-2009, 10:09 PM

Just when the Kinetic brand seemed to be fading out, its heartening to see signs of it coming back to life.. albeit with a new brand name (Mahindra) of course.

I have heard of SYM (the technical partner of Mahindra) products to be of very good quality.. hoping that the products for the Indian market will bear the same good quality along with good sales and service experience.

**HydBiker** · 09-10-2009, 10:14 PM

^^^
Ravi has a Kinetic SYM Flyte. He's speaking about the quality after using it... and the white elephant Kinetic Blaze before that... Kinetic killed the quality levels of Italiano Scooters and SYM.

**vas** · 09-10-2009, 10:26 PM

guys is there anything new in these scoots other than the Mahindra tag?

i dint find any new goodies added(body panels also)!

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