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Thats a whole lot of baloney. Changing your tyres doesnt void your warranty.Originally posted by csajal View Post
Besides, if you crash, how will that be covered under warranty?Comment
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I hope this doesnt happen to me, and of course I am glad that our Manan is OK. Who will make us laugh without him?
On a serious note, I think this is a one off issue which definitely must be investigated.
As far as warranty being void by just changing the tyres, I am sure its miscommunication than anything else!Join xBhp On
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Manan, although I pity you, I have to cite an incident that happened to me here. I experienced SAME problem, albeit on my Mahindra Scorpio. The car's original tubeless JK Tyres had the same issue at some 11000 kms. We were travelling at 100 - 120 and I immediately stopped the car suspecting puncture. Tires have faults and it is not possible to find all manufacturing defects always, especially when it is new.
Agreed, that this is fatal on a motorcycle, but faults in tires cannot be detected beyond a certain point. The metal bands placed inside to hold the tire structure may collapse. I got this from JK Tires who offered a cash back for all tires. We changed it all to Michelin which have been running for the past 45K kms. I also happen to know of a friend who experienced similar issue on his Bridgestone shod VW Jetta, so its not really due to BAJAJ/IRC alone!
P.S: Must say that the support I got from Mahindra and JK on this issue was nothing less than exemplary!Last edited by Aparajith; 11-02-2010, 01:36 PM.Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.Comment
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I can just hope for it to be same in case from Bajaj/IRC to me...Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
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@manan : Sad to hear that such a thing happened and that the PBK guys said it was due to wear and tear!(?) Anyways happy to hear you're safe. But it doesn't make any sense about the warranty being void for the the bike if the tyres are changed! After all tires are outsourced products and not made by Kawaski themselves! It's IRC's flaw and not Kawasaki's, so no point in blaming the latter! PBK seriously needs to look into this before more of such incidents pile up!
P.S.: Warranty being void for the whole bike if tyres are changed is rubbish
! Plan to pick up a Ninja soon. Hope this flaw is corrected by then!
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DUDES...no warranty is void by changing to stickier tyres...some guy typed that on page 2 and you all took him for his word ?
Warranty is not void if u change your tyres.
I feel your rage but Bajaj aint really the culprit here...Originally posted by manan_in_2000 View PostI truly believe Bajaj and other manufacturers are watching and reading this thread and will take some lessons, that Indian market is that fool as much they think...
Its IRCs....Bajaj may take the case straight to them or u can do that directly. Bajaj is doing a very good job on its after sales service...it will help u out with this to the max too and of that I am sure. Just make sure you are addressing the right bunch of ppl and blame them. Blame IRCS...not bajaj nor kawasaki. They arent dumping IRCs in India becase they think we are fools. Ninja250R is shodded with those tyres worldwide.sigpic
when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
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With all due regards, what I wrote, was my personal encounter to a conversation which blew me off and therefore I wrote that the conversation with that particular Manager, drove me nuts and instead I continued with my intent for which I went there. That conversation threw me into a fit of rage and that's why I said that I want to take this case up to that person.Originally posted by TenHut View Post
I'm not saying that what the person said is rational in any sense... and that Bajaj means it. I've herd funnier things over here and believe me they are even more mind blowing (a dude at a Yamaha Pickup Station in Gurgaon once said that R6 is a much much more powerful bike, 6 times more powerful bike than R1, because as per his knowledge that's how Yamaha prefers to name it's bikes). As Ken Da said, it's all about having the right knowledge.
I don't have any audio or video proof of my conversation, but if I've any credibility in this forum, then I guess I need not give any explanations around it.Comment
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Good to hear that you are safe mate. Take care and i hope you get good support from this mentioned companies. (though i wouldn't count on it)My thoughts are subjected to personal experiences/internet articles. Please read my comment carefully before replying. :)Comment
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+1 for bad experiences with IRC tyres, not on the ninja though.
4 front end losses, 1 trail braking crash, 1 180deg rear end over end slide, 3 other misc low speed spills, and one toss that defies reason at 40kph...
...Will NEVER trust my life with this brand of tyre!!!
EDIT: Oh thought it might be worth a mention :- Switching to Michelin cut both my cornering radius and braking distances by at least 40%... seriously!Last edited by tallkien; 11-02-2010, 08:11 PM.Comment
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Glad your safe,Manan!
but im really surprised that IRC's have a poor reputation!i thought they were pretty good! :O
i agree with TenHunt that BAJAJ isnt really the culprit here,its IRC,but hope bajaj makes an investigation and makes sure that all the tires aren't faulty!....reminds me of the Ford Explorer's issue with Firestone!Smoke rubber,not tobacco.
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yeah dude it aint ur bad. I know u were simply mentioning how the conversation with a PBK employee went about but ppl started thinking its true and that the warranty would be void. That PBK guy most prolly had no idea at all. When I was booking the Ninja i remember one of the PBK guys telling me to use octane booster for the Ninja250R.Originally posted by csajal View Post
Advising something when you yourself dont have a clue is a rampant practice all over india and not just PBK. U were simply a victim of such an advise at PBK
Yep....they r looting us at that price. I remember paying 13k for a pair last year when i desperately needed some new tyres for the track.Originally posted by sheelpriye
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when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
kamlesh kandaNO PACE TOO SLOW
IF you're at all going to be a respectable rider one day, leave your pride at the "door."
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Well even am not sure how ture this is. Was having a casual chat with the PBK service enggineer while getting my P220 serviced (sometime in jan i guess) he said even a change in the tyre profile can be considered to void the warrenty, provided it does the damage!
Ex - 220 is supposed to shod 120/80 sec. but if a person comes to claim warrenty for his 220(may be for unusual wear of chain kit) havein a 140/80 sec tyre, they'll surly decline it!07 HH Zma
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First of all, tear in sidewall ensures immediate tyre replacement from any tyre manufacturer. Sidewall failure is considered to be a serious manufacturing defect. No tyre dealer or company can refuse this claim simply because you can't do anything while riding to tear the side wall.
You can check the above para with any of tyre dealers in your locality.
I suggest that you ask for an immediate free replacement and ask them to investigate the case in their own sweet time. Paying right now and then reclaiming the amount will be a huge waste of your time.Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.
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