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    Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

    Yes. You heard it right. It is certainly possible....not in a theoretical way but practically....

    I recently opted for a 2012 model Yamaha FZ1. I bought it on loan. Details are as follows :

    I first approached Bank of India, Pune and enquired whether they provide loans for purchasing second hand two wheelers. They replied yes.
    Then I submitted -
    1. Copy of 3 years Income Tax Returns
    2. 2 Photographs
    3. Copy of Address Proof (Passport / ration card / landline bill)
    4. Copy of Identity Proof (PAN card / driving licence)
    5. Completed application form.

    At this time, I had not finalised which bike to purchase. I knew the amount till which I wanted to buy a bike and asked bank to check my income / liabilities and confirm whether they can provide the loan to the extend I wanted. (Not that I wanted much but given the bleak outlook of my income.....just wanted to be sure )

    I submitted my application around 11 am...called them up at 4.30 pm on same day to enquire.....The concerned officer told me that I can get the desired amount and should he sanction the loan.......I replied YES.....While on call, he pressed <Enter> on his comp and voila.....loan was sanctioned.

    Next day, got the loan agreement franking done and submitted them to the bank.....signed all the relevant papers....took possession of sanction letter.

    Please note that till this time, I had not finalised which bike to purchase.....Difficult for you to identify a bike and hold it till bank sanctions your loan.

    Fortified with the sanction letter, I searched around and found a sweet deal of a 2012 FZ1 with only 2200 km on speedo. Yamaha dealer himself was selling that bike. Fixed up an appointment for next day and turned up at his place....saw the bike, documents etc....Got contact of Registered valuer approved by bank....asked his person to come down to the showroom....paid him Rs.1500 cash as valuation charges. (He couriered written valuation report on the same day)

    Bike was in absolute stock, mint, scratchless condition. Still SMSed the bike number to couple of friends who confirmed that the bike was never repaired (as per yamaha service network record) and no insurance was ever claimed (as per insurance company records).....All this was achieved in 15 minutes of me landing up at the showroom. Now there was no stopping me from closing the deal....or was it?

    I had not ridden the bike till now but looking at its condition and feedback received, decided to close the deal.The Yamaha dealer was opening a new Nissan showroom on the same day and was getting frantic calls from his family to turn up for pooja. Told the dealer to go ahead for pooja and I returned back to Pune.

    Next day called him up and after haggling a bit, closed the deal....transferred 1 lakh as token amount to my Bank of India saving account and then transferred it to the dealer account. The logic behind this transfer was to generate a record in Bank of India books that I had paid this amount out of my required margin (though I wanted a loan for lesser amount than they had sanctioned)....By evening, the dealer confirmed payment receipt and told me to come down whenever possible to close the deal.

    I was busy in work for next couple of days so could not go to Mumbai to take delivery. Dealer was willing to send the bike across to Pune but I did not want anyone else to ride the bike. After couple of days, told Bank of India to transfer required funds to the dealer.... they did that and dealer confirmed that he had received payment.

    Next day, hitched a ride with some friends and landed up at the dealership. Formalities were completed in next 15 minutes....information about various features took a bit longer but I was ready to go within an hour of landing there.

    Returned riding the bike…me and my friends took turns to ride it. It was absolute pleasure.

    Went to Bank of India branch next day with sweets and showed them the bike, handed over original receipts to bank.

    End of story….beginning of EMI…..

    The criteria for second hand bike purchase are –

    1. Vehicle has to be less than 3 years old
    2. The margin money will be min. 30%
    3. Repayment will be max 3 years.

    I got the loan at 11.25% daily reducing interest rate. On request, bank even waived off processing fee. BTW, I do not have even a single business relationship with Bank of India. I only have a saving account with them with an average balance of 1000 in it.

    The reason behind this long story is to show how easy it is to get loans from nationalized banks. Don’t fall in the trap of other finance companies.
    Last edited by trustvishwas; 11-20-2013, 04:40 PM.
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      Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

      Sir, [MENTION=23857]trustvishwas[/MENTION]

      So this will be categorized under Two-Wheeler loans, right? and not personal (noob?) The documents required, are they same in all banks or private ones have a different requirement?
      A friend of mine inquired about the same in HDFC ('cause it seems they are the only SBK loan provider) and found out that the interest rates are as high as 13.5% for N650 with a down payment of 30%. Any income bracket that they specify?


      Thanks for sharing. This is indeed enlightening! [MENTION=37862]snehithpereira[/MENTION] - looks like your dreams are a step closer from turning into reality. Have a look, mate!
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        Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

        Thanks for sharing , guess it's time many who are dreaming of owning one will think about this. . .

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          Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

          Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
          Sir, @trustvishwas

          So this will be categorized under Two-Wheeler loans, right? and not personal (noob?)
          These loans can be categorized either as Two wheeler OR as SECURED personal loans. Secured personal loans are different than Unsecured loans. In two wheeler / secured personal loans, the bank hypothecation is registered on your bike at RTO.

          Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
          The documents required, are they same in all banks or private ones have a different requirement?
          The documents would be more or less the same.

          Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
          A friend of mine inquired about the same in HDFC ('cause it seems they are the only SBK loan provider) and found out that the interest rates are as high as 13.5% for N650 with a down payment of 30%. Any income bracket that they specify?
          HDFC is NOT the only SBK loan provider. Any Nationalised bank provides that. I have no clue about private banks.

          Please keep in mind that quoted interest rates and actually charged interest rates are wildly different. It is plain & simple cheating simply because you don't bother to calculate the actual EMI. Also always check pitfalls about prepayment charges, foreclosure charges, processing fee etc.

          Any bank does NOT have an income criteria. Loan amount is based on the basis of your income. eg. for Bank of India, 24 times of gross monthly emoluments in case of salaried employees/pension/ or two times of gross average annual income as per last 3 years I.T. Returns. For calculating your loan eligibility, bank will deduct any EMI currently being deducted from your gross monthly salary.

          Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
          Thanks for sharing. This is indeed enlightening!
          Welcome.

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          loan_amortization_schedule.zip

          I am attaching an excel file. By using this file, you can understand the actual interest being charged for the loan issued.

          You can key in the loan amount, duration and interest rates and find out the EMI. I am confident that at least 50% of the guys would be astonished to see the actual EMI that works out for the interest rate quoted.

          It is an usual practise to quote a certain interest rate and then quote EMI which has no relevance to the quoted interest rate.

          Myth busting 1-0-1

          Advance EMI means the actual loan disbursed is less than the sanctioned loan. This is used to inflate the processing fee and/or to make you feel that your sanctioned loan amount is higher than it actually is.

          Processing Fee - This is a clear crap idea of fleecing customers for no valid reason. Why should you pay someone any fee if you would also be paying interest on loan? Try to negotiate ZERO processing fee.

          Prepayment Charges - Why should a finance institution penalise you for paying back their loan? This is used in the hope of securing their returns for longer duration. Go for a loan only if you have an option of paying as much extra amount as you wish whenever you wish. It is your money and if you have surplus, why can't you save interest?

          Flat Interest rate - Flat interest rate means the interest is charged on full loan amount irrespective of how much you have already paid. This was launched because companies wanted potential customers to feel as if they are getting bargain of the century. Would it not make sense if you were to pay interest only on amount you owe? Thumb rule is add about 80% to a flat interest rate to work out actual variable interest rate.
          Last edited by trustvishwas; 11-15-2013, 06:42 PM.
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            Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

            A big thanks for sharing such good news. As official superbike sales are warming up in cities & towns across the country, a lot of genuine biking enthusiasts will be looking at the option of picking up used bikes whose new values have dropped and are in a more affordable range.



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            • #7
              Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

              Not really for the used bike, but I got my new SBK loan done with Bank Of India only. Almost same experience of swift delivery. 2 days and I had the cheque in my hand... No processing fee, no prepayment penalty.. This was more than 2 years back..

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                Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

                Correction

                I had earlier posted interest rate of 10.25% reducing balance by mistake. It is actually 11.25% on daily reducing balance.
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                  Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

                  thanks for providing the information.

                  when i went to BOI for CBR250 loan, they said they will open a saving bank account first. thats a must. now why is that required. obviously it will not be zero balance, so add the minimum balance required to the total repayment amount. and interest goes up- specially for smaller bike loans.

                  Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post

                  Processing Fee - This is a clear crap idea of fleecing customers for no valid reason. Why should you pay someone any fee if you would also be paying interest on loan? Try to negotiate ZERO processing fee.
                  ....
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                  i tried to negotiate this with bajaj finance, but failed.
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                    Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

                    Hello guys

                    Im going to purchase a duke390. Hdfc is ready to provide me loan. They are saying that, they will give me a intrest rate of 10.9. They also said that they reduce it further & will give best possible rate, which i doubt. Prosseing fee is 2.5. On the website it is saying that there is 50% off on processing fee & 2%discount on intrest rate. Im geting bit confuse what's the actual rate on intrest. Few of my friends are saying to go for idbi or pnb. One problem on myside is i maynot be able to produce it return of three years. Due to some problem i have filled 2010&11 at the same time. And i have yet not filled for 2012. as i'hv ac with hdfc they are not asking for any documents.

                    One funny thing is hdfc is saying duke390 is superbike

                    So can anyone please tell me how is idbi & pnb in terms of loan

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                    Last edited by coolmaverickguy; 11-22-2013, 03:32 AM.
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                      Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

                      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                      when i went to BOI for CBR250 loan, they said they will open a saving bank account first. thats a must. now why is that required. obviously it will not be zero balance, so add the minimum balance required to the total repayment amount. and interest goes up- specially for smaller bike loans.
                      Opening a saving account enables them to auto debit it each month on 30th / 31st to recover EMI. You can have a minimum balance in the account. I usually have only 1000 bucks in that account and transfer the required EMI amount to that account one day before it is due. I believe the (loss of) interest (interest paid on loan less interest received on saving account) on 1000 even for 5 years would be less than 100 bucks.

                      Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                      i tried to negotiate this with bajaj finance, but failed.
                      One tip. Always submit documents in beginning of month, ask the finance company to approve the loan and then don't accept it till around 20th of that month. Say that you are re-thinking, getting better deal etc. To achieve their monthly targets, the finance company guys would start offering better and better deal every alternate day. Each time he will say that this is the best he can do. Tell him what you wish for. If you get any offer near to what you wish for, go for it.

                      Any way, I always hate private finance companies and private banks. They are aggressive while providing loans but you miss one installment, then you are crapped upon by the whole universe.....late payment charges, interest, penal interest and what not.

                      Originally posted by coolmaverickguy View Post
                      So can anyone please tell me how is idbi & pnb in terms of loan
                      I have all my business current accounts with IDBI since last more than a decade. However, when I approached the bank, the manager took me aside and told me that it takes min 1.5 months for them to sanction loan. IDBI branch does not have any authority for loan sanctioning. It has to go to Central Processing Unit and it takes time. So he advised me to look somewhere else.

                      In fact, one senior accountant working with IDBI took a loan from Bank of India (on my suggestion) for his bullet

                      No clue about PNB.

                      Why don't you file FY2012-13 returns now? Then you can go with any bank.

                      Originally posted by coolmaverickguy View Post
                      Hello guys

                      Im going to purchase a duke390. Hdfc is ready to provide me loan. They are saying that, they will give me a intrest rate of 10.9. They also said that they reduce it further & will give best possible rate, which i doubt. Prosseing fee is 2.5. On the website it is saying that there is 50% off on processing fee & 2%discount on intrest rate. Im geting bit confuse what's the actual rate on intrest.
                      Never ever believe in quoted interest rates. They know that potential customers seldom check the EMI with quoted interest rate. Always ask for NET loan amount and EMI. With these two figures, you will be able to work out the actual interest charged by using excel file attached in earlier post.
                      Last edited by trustvishwas; 11-22-2013, 10:43 AM.
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                        Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post


                        I have all my business current accounts with IDBI since last more than a decade. However, when I approached the bank, the manager took me aside and told me that it takes min 1.5 months for them to sanction loan. IDBI branch does not have any authority for loan sanctioning. It has to go to Central Processing Unit and it takes time. So he advised me to look somewhere else.

                        No clue about PNB.

                        Why don't you file FY2012-13 returns now? Then you can go with any bank.

                        Never ever believe in quoted interest rates. They know that potential customers seldom check the EMI with quoted interest rate. Always ask for NET loan amount and EMI. With these two figures, you will be able to work out the actual interest charged by using excel file attached in earlier post.
                        thanx a ton bhai. 1+month is too much right now. ill be needing to with 10 days or so. still i called on my friend who works in idbi, let she what she has to tell. will check out pnb also, why father use to work in pnb and my mom still hold some fd in there. wish i could get some loan against the fd. is it possible to take loan in my moms name and purchase bike in my name. its not right ... right ?
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                          Originally posted by coolmaverickguy View Post
                          thanx a ton bhai. 1+month is too much right now. ill be needing to with 10 days or so. still i called on my friend who works in idbi, let she what she has to tell. will check out pnb also, why father use to work in pnb and my mom still hold some fd in there. wish i could get some loan against the fd. is it possible to take loan in my moms name and purchase bike in my name. its not right ... right ?
                          It is possible to take loan against your mothers' FDs. It is actually your own money that bank is lending you back at higher rate. It is the most secured of the loans for bank and so can be processed in a day.

                          Whether to do it or not, is your choice.

                          May be you can apply for loan on your name, use this money till the loan gets disbursed and then transfer the amount back to your mother.
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                            Congratulations buddy, you just gave me crap-loads of hope!!!

                            One important question, how did you find that R1 guy though? I've been trying to network and find a good used steed to find, but am unable to. Any pointers on that?

                            Additionally, I will not have Tax Returns for the past three years because I haven't been working that long, but my current salary/credit history should not be an issue. Will that matter?!

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                              Re: Bank loans for Used Superbikes is possible

                              Just got to see this thread..... BRILLIANT JOB there man!!! I never knew that getting a loan and that too from a Nationalized bank would be quite simple enough for a second hand vehicle!!!! This is fantastic stuff brother. You surely pulled off a miracle there buddy and you actually showed some ray of hope for guys like us!!! Can't just thank you enough but hats off to you bro. Have an awesome ownership experience with your FZ1 !
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