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  • SBK Security

    Just curious what do you guys do for added security ? Does the inbuilt Immoblizer (in models which are present) sufficient ?

    Also could you share your experience on leaving the bike @ parking structures, office spaces etc...

    Warm Regards,
    TV

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    • #3
      Re: SBK Security

      Originally posted by teezam View Post
      Just curious what do you guys do for added security ? Does the inbuilt Immoblizer (in models which are present) sufficient ?

      Also could you share your experience on leaving the bike @ parking structures, office spaces etc...

      Warm Regards,
      TV

      well, it's impossible to have a "secure" sbk here.. atleast where I live and work..

      someone comes along, fiddles the switches, changes gears and "tries out" the bike

      some are more responsible to come to me and ask "can I take a pic please"

      you got alarms, but that will drain your battery out.. it causes more harm than good especially if you are sleeping in the 8th floor and your bike is screaming it's heart out at the basement.. if you are lucky (mostly you will be) the watchman will come running to your house..

      putting on a cover and keeping her covered is another option.. but that will make the guy who you pay 500 bucks every month to keep her clean "lazy".

      I stopped bothering about it, in a few months and one changed clutch rod (thank you passerby), nobody bothers my baby..

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      • #4
        Re: SBK Security

        Originally posted by Ajay Vishwanath View Post
        putting on a cover and keeping her covered is another option.. but that will make the guy who you pay 500 bucks every month to keep her clean "lazy".
        You, sir, are brave. I can/will never trust anyone else to clean my bike, let alone if it's a SBK [emoji2]

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        • #5
          Re: SBK Security

          Keep a bike cover with you. The cover should not be too fancy, just a normal or even messed up old one will do good. If nobody can see your bike, then it will not attract any attention. Also make sure the cover has atleast 2-3 secure clips that are placed on the underside so that nobody can just simply pull off the cover.

          While putting the cover make sure you still have your gloves on, you dont wanna burn your hands from the hot engine and exhaust while securing teh clips.

          As for safety, at work place if your parking lot has a watch guard, then it should be sufficient and if there are CCTVs in the parking area make sure you park in front of one.

          At home you might wanna consider getting a ground anchor and some heavy chains, cctvs and proximity alarms, not on the bike but in the area where you parked your bike provided your living areas dont fall into the radius of the alarm.

          (If you can spend 10L on a superbike, its definitely worth spending some time and money into the above precautions)

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          • #6
            Re: SBK Security

            Originally posted by paradoxx View Post
            You, sir, are brave. I can/will never trust anyone else to clean my bike, let alone if it's a SBK [emoji2]
            Agreed - I pay a guy in my society to clean my Honda City - but my bike? No sir! Previously my Duke 200 and now my Triumph Street Triple - Only I wash it with my own hands with specially bought car/bike shampoo and later I polish the metal part with wax polish as well..I myself also do frequent chain cleaning and lubrication....

            All I need now is to buy a PADDOCK STAND and chain cleaning brush to make this activity easier...

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            Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
            Keep a bike cover with you. The cover should not be too fancy, just a normal or even messed up old one will do good. If nobody can see your bike, then it will not attract any attention. Also make sure the cover has atleast 2-3 secure clips that are placed on the underside so that nobody can just simply pull off the cover.

            While putting the cover make sure you still have your gloves on, you dont wanna burn your hands from the hot engine and exhaust while securing teh clips.

            As for safety, at work place if your parking lot has a watch guard, then it should be sufficient and if there are CCTVs in the parking area make sure you park in front of one.

            At home you might wanna consider getting a ground anchor and some heavy chains, cctvs and proximity alarms, not on the bike but in the area where you parked your bike provided your living areas dont fall into the radius of the alarm.

            (If you can spend 10L on a superbike, its definitely worth spending some time and money into the above precautions)
            Fully covering the bike with a decent cover is a very good measure - 99% trouble within society parking automatically stops with this...
            I bought RJAYS cover for my bike recently...You can refer more details in my ownership thread - search for "RED ROSE"...

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            • #7
              Re: SBK Security

              Does someone have idea of using disk locks or an aftermarket remote locking? How helpful are these? I know handle lock alone is not enough and any thief with average intelligence can break that in seconds. Lot of videos on You Tube Scares me hence I don't take my bike where I have to park it unattended even for few minutes. Ride out and Ride in.
              Understand the risk and respect the bike, understand the bike and respect the risk.

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              • #8
                Re: SBK Security

                Originally posted by Newbie650 View Post
                Does someone have idea of using disk locks or an aftermarket remote locking? How helpful are these? I know handle lock alone is not enough and any thief with average intelligence can break that in seconds. Lot of videos on You Tube Scares me hence I don't take my bike where I have to park it unattended even for few minutes. Ride out and Ride in.
                Aftermarket remote locks are a waste of money IMO. They drain the battery real quick and a thief who comes to steal a premium bike/SBK knows how to splice wires without triggering the alarm.
                Buy XENA disc locks if your area has rampant robbery/vandalism.
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                • #9
                  Re: SBK Security

                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  Aftermarket remote locks are a waste of money IMO. They drain the battery real quick and a thief who comes to steal a premium bike/SBK knows how to splice wires without triggering the alarm.
                  Buy XENA disc locks if your area has rampant robbery/vandalism.
                  Read reviews of XENA, the lock seems to be good but alarm is super sensitive. How to know what size will fit in N650R back disc break? (Some one written somewhere it is better to install lock in rear wheel than front as it is difficult to dislodge the full rear wheel by tools in comparison to front lock due to chain sprockets etc)
                  Understand the risk and respect the bike, understand the bike and respect the risk.

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                  • #10
                    Re: SBK Security

                    Originally posted by Newbie650 View Post
                    Read reviews of XENA, the lock seems to be good but alarm is super sensitive. How to know what size will fit in N650R back disc break? (Some one written somewhere it is better to install lock in rear wheel than front as it is difficult to dislodge the full rear wheel by tools in comparison to front lock due to chain sprockets etc)
                    I don't think that front/rear would make much of a difference. There's not much space on the lock to carry out any malpractices. The lock is sturdy; but if a bike/car has to go - it will go!
                    You can take care that you prevent the above as much as possible.

                    Go through the below chart, you have a variety of compatible locks - https://www.xenasecurity.com/custome...t-motorcycles/.
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #11
                      Re: SBK Security

                      Originally posted by Newbie650 View Post
                      Some one written somewhere it is better to install lock in rear wheel than front as it is difficult to dislodge the full rear wheel by tools in comparison to front lock due to chain sprockets etc
                      Been using couple of them for over 5 years now; what it means is that, since the rear disc is small in size, the movement of motorcycle is much restricted than fitted on a large front disc that's all. And FYI - That thing hoots like hell when there's even a simple movement, so forget alone removing the wheel. But yes, fitting on rear wheel is locking inside a bathroom which is inside the bedroom which is inside the house protected by main doors & a grill gate

                      Originally posted by Newbie650 View Post
                      Read reviews of XENA, the lock seems to be good but alarm is super sensitive. How to know what size will fit in N650R back disc break?
                      B.R.A.K.E it is!! Visit Xenasecurity website & find out or shoot an email or chat with them
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                      • #12
                        Re: SBK Security

                        Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        Been using couple of them for over 5 years now; what it means is that, since the rear disc is small in size, the movement of motorcycle is much restricted than fitted on a large front disc that's all. And FYI - That thing hoots like hell when there's even a simple movement, so forget alone removing the wheel. But yes, fitting on rear wheel is locking inside a bathroom which is inside the bedroom which is inside the house protected by main doors & a grill gate


                        B.R.A.K.E it is!! Visit Xenasecurity website & find out or shoot an email or chat with them
                        Brakes... My bad.. (Work hazard...spoiled by corporate world, often type about breaks than brakes...biking is kind of 'returned' to me accidentally)

                        These locks are costly but nonetheless, I think I should invest in one at least I can some peace of mind.. will install in rear brakes..
                        Understand the risk and respect the bike, understand the bike and respect the risk.

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                        • #13
                          Re: SBK Security

                          You can always get an alarm like: Scorpio | Motorcycle Alarms
                          They have a 2 way fob which would alert you. I have seen bikes with them, they work like the alarms in the car. They have some options like shock, perimeter sensor etc.

                          You can also get a GPS tracker, but then you need an extra SIM, it eats up your battery.

                          Cheaper deterrents are disc locks, like others mentioned. I don't think it matters where you put them, I put them on the front tire.

                          If you get a disc lock, you MUST get a 'disc lock reminder cable' (looks like: http://miniimg2.rightinthebox.com/im...4726838692.jpg). Otherwise, some day, when you are in a rush, you will forget about the disc lock and start riding. Next thing you know is a hole in you wallet (to change the brake components). This is especially true if you put the lock on the rear (I found this is more of a hassle). Reminder cable saved me countless times, atleast initially till I got used to having the lock.

                          The Xena alarmed disc locks are a bit finicky, I have one of those. I find myself in a panic mode while unlocking the Xena, as the count down starts immediately after you touch the lock with the key , it is a race from that point. They also cause false alarms if it is humid. So I don't use it often, I use a regular one.

                          Anyway disc locks are only deterrents, over here atleast, they usually lift the bike into a van, so disc locks don't help much. Disc brakes only prevent/delay someone jumping and riding off with it, and is usually what you need when you park your bike outside somewhere.

                          I have also read about ppl adding a hidden switch connected to the ignition, again delays the process.

                          I personally think, having a good insurance and using a the disc lock is the economic option (just bcos you need the insurance anyway). Although I wouldn't mind one of the Scorpio alarms (if they were cheaper), just because I like gadgets.
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                          • #14
                            Re: SBK Security

                            Originally posted by teezam View Post
                            Just curious what do you guys do for added security ? Does the inbuilt Immoblizer (in models which are present) sufficient ?

                            Also could you share your experience on leaving the bike @ parking structures, office spaces etc...

                            Warm Regards,
                            TV
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                            • #15
                              Re: SBK Security

                              Originally posted by becham_79 View Post
                              You can always get an alarm like: Scorpio | Motorcycle Alarms
                              They have a 2 way fob which would alert you. I have seen bikes with them, they work like the alarms in the car. They have some options like shock, perimeter sensor etc.

                              You can also get a GPS tracker, but then you need an extra SIM, it eats up your battery.

                              Cheaper deterrents are disc locks, like others mentioned. I don't think it matters where you put them, I put them on the front tire.

                              If you get a disc lock, you MUST get a 'disc lock reminder cable' (looks like: http://miniimg2.rightinthebox.com/im...4726838692.jpg). Otherwise, some day, when you are in a rush, you will forget about the disc lock and start riding. Next thing you know is a hole in you wallet (to change the brake components). This is especially true if you put the lock on the rear (I found this is more of a hassle). Reminder cable saved me countless times, atleast initially till I got used to having the lock.

                              The Xena alarmed disc locks are a bit finicky, I have one of those. I find myself in a panic mode while unlocking the Xena, as the count down starts immediately after you touch the lock with the key , it is a race from that point. They also cause false alarms if it is humid. So I don't use it often, I use a regular one.

                              Anyway disc locks are only deterrents, over here atleast, they usually lift the bike into a van, so disc locks don't help much. Disc brakes only prevent/delay someone jumping and riding off with it, and is usually what you need when you park your bike outside somewhere.

                              I have also read about ppl adding a hidden switch connected to the ignition, again delays the process.

                              I personally think, having a good insurance and using a the disc lock is the economic option (just bcos you need the insurance anyway). Although I wouldn't mind one of the Scorpio alarms (if they were cheaper), just because I like gadgets.
                              All these sound like highly secure CIA facility, which a hacker always seems to find a way around ... I like the idea of the insurance and simple but strong disc lock and then perhaps leave it to the God almighty as my Dog can't be every where, wish he could be
                              Understand the risk and respect the bike, understand the bike and respect the risk.

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