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    Hi guys

    Well My name is Sunny...

    I live in sydney for sum temporary reasons n i m coming back to india for a while,,
    I wanna import a used Yamaha YZF R1 to india
    I live in Newdelhi by the way,,,


    Thankx in advance for the guidence n help.

    Lets make it simple:-

    If I have a bike That is Yamaha YZF R1 used one and I bought it for $12000(Australia)
    If I'll leave the bike there in india then:-
    What will be the custom charges
    What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges

    Now If I'll come back to australia with the bike then:
    How long has to be the papers on my name here in australia,,,
    What will be the custom charges
    What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges

    Plz reply asap and give me a rough idea in numbers


    thankx n Ihope things are much more clearer bcoz I wanna be in india asap.
    Cheers

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    If you have lived in a Oz for longer than 2 years (to my knowledge) you are allowed to import the bike to India on TR (Transfer of Residence) with 100% duty on the value of the bike evaluated by the customs officials at the moment of import. This is true only for bikes above 800cc. For bikes less than 800cc, you either have a penalty to pay or have your bike confiscated by customs!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ken cool View Post
      Query Approved
      This is true only for bikes above 800cc. For bikes less than 800cc, you either have a penalty to pay or have your bike confiscated by customs!
      Ken, are you sure about this? If I'm not mistaken the 800cc + rule is only for new bikes and not used ones being brought on TR.
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      • #4
        Found out an article related to this...

        What should you know about before importing a car/bike


        With the number of Indians traveling and staying abroad these days, I think there should be more awareness about this.
        Often it could be cheaper to import a bike on your own. It also gives more choices in both price and different bikes ..
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        • #5
          Actually even after paying 100% customs duty, the bike on TR will be cheaper than Indian price i think.

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          • #6
            Importing the bike permanently means that you have to go thru the whole procedure as explained in this thread. Yes, its a cumbersome process!






            However, if you want to bring it into India for TEMPORARY USE ONLY, then you are allowed to keep it in India for a maximum period of 6 months. But beware during these 6 months you can not leave the country without taking your bike with you. Visit the link below for more details:

            EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE

            For temporary import:
            Air shipping one-way should cost you about US$ 1,000 to 1,500
            Sea shipping will be marginally less.
            In India the clearing charges (inbound) and forwarding charges (outbound) will total about Rs. 12,000-15,000
            Last edited by Haroon; 09-08-2009, 06:26 PM.



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            • #7
              engine over heating

              my bike is 2003 model pulsar 150, engine is getting over heated these days, no smoke- hope no bore problem. plz tell me what are the possble way of engine over heating, so that i can stop it.

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              • #8
                Thankx for the above info guys ,,really appreciate that but bit confusing

                @ Haroon

                Here the thing I already stayed here in australia for more then 2 year,,,
                and will be back in india for 45 days,,,,
                Then:-
                1) I already have a bike here that I'll be importing so Offcourse it will come under used bike...
                1) How long has to be the bike papers on my name here in australia?
                2) Custom charges are 100% on used one RIGHT? so when I'll be reaching the port ,,I'll be charged with complete custom charges that means 100% duty or not? and how they guys will be able to find out that how much is the bike worth so that they can put 100% duty on top of it...???????

                3) Again what will be the export duty ?
                4) When I'll be exporting my bike back to australia,,,The duty I'll be paying in the beginning will be refundable or not?
                5) are any bike paper work charges there,,if yes then how much it will be??????
                6) are there any hidden charges included?????
                &) And finally If you riders know any consultant specialized in ATA CARNET thing Plz let me know...

                Replys will be appreciated thankx,,cheers

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                • #9
                  Sunny- Let me clarify a little more clearly.
                  There are only 2 scenarios for bringing your used bike into India

                  Scenario-1: You want to bring the bike to India, pay customs, clear it and register it in Delhi with a NEW number plate and the bike remains in Delhi for ever. End of story.

                  In this case, you must have owned it for atleast 2 years in Aus and have to declare a value for the bike in the shipping invoice. BUT, the customs guys have their own evaluation formula and will fix the dutiable value according to their calculation. (thanks to the net as well as their database, they have all the prices of new/used bikes in different countries). Every new bikes has a fixed value as per the customs database of international prices and customs tariffs are also fixed (not much room to play around), whereas for used bikes (depending on what you bribe the customs guy), he can self-evaluate the value for the bike saying its a damaged/accident bike etc (although in reality it is not damaged) and then he decides on the customs value to be paid by you. You pay customs & whatever other levies and take the bike home and next day take it to your RTO and register it with a Delhi license plate and the bike remains in India for ever.

                  Scenario-2
                  If I understand your situation correctly, you want to keep the bike in India for say 45 days ONLY. In this case, the link of Chennai customs which I gave you earlier, explains the details of the Temporary import/Carnet procedures. In this situation, firstly, you dont need to have a minimum period of ownership in Aus and secondly you DO NOT PAY ANY CUSTOMS and also you will continue to use your Australian license plate on the bike in India for 45 days. You will only pay for the clearance charges when you imported the bike plus the forwarding charges when you are exporting it back to Australia after 45 days. The total of both these would be approx Indian Rupees 12,000-15,000.
                  Last edited by Haroon; 09-08-2009, 08:13 PM.



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                  • #10
                    @ haroon

                    Just one thing to say about you that you are LEGEND mate....

                    one more thing to confim might,,,

                    Originally posted by Haroon View Post
                    However, if you want to bring it into India for TEMPORARY USE ONLY, then you are allowed to keep it in India for a maximum period of 6 months. But beware during these 6 months you can not leave the country without taking your bike with you.Visit the link below for more details:

                    EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE
                    BUt the website is saying that you can stay in india for one year??????????????


                    Originally posted by Haroon View Post
                    you must have owned it for atleast 2 years in Aus and have to declare a value for the bike in the shipping invoice.

                    Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                    Query Approved

                    If you have lived in a Oz for longer than 2 years (to my knowledge) you are allowed to import the bike to India on TR (Transfer of Residence)
                    I m just a student here in australia not a permanent resisdent but sum of the consultant are saying that only who is transfering of his/her resident and staying in india for rest,,,, can import a bike...?????
                    but I'll be in n out in india so still m i be able to import my used bike and then leave it in india by completing the Scenario No. 1??????

                    If u know any consultant who I can trust on can u plz forward me the details
                    I have contacted more then 5 custom broker/agent, every one work n say his own way...

                    The above info was much more clearer and I really appreciate putting ur time in it...

                    Thankx and regards
                    Sunny
                    Last edited by David_smith2999; 09-09-2009, 04:06 PM. Reason: Much better

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                    • #11
                      Sunny, if you are resident (working) in Australia, only then can you avail the TR facility. The TR basically means you are transferring your residence to India and hence you are allowed to bring the personal stuff that you were using in Australia (furniture, clothes, car etc etc). Therefore, under TR category the customs duties are comparatively less than what will be charged to a regular Indian tourist or an Indian student like you in Australia returning back to India. BUT for cars & bikes, its only marginally less. Besides, in TR I think they waive off the separate idiotic penalty that Indians (those staying/working in India) have to pay simply for importing a bike or car.

                      As for TR, let me repeat again that an Indian resident (working in Australia) can continue to live in Australia, but can avail the TR facility once in 2 years. So its not that you apply for TR only when you leave Australia for good.

                      All the above said, in your case, I dont think you are eligible for the TR being a student. So you are still allowed to import the bike but like how a regular Indian staying/working in India will buy & import- it will be the same for you paying all the exhorbitant customs, penalities, levies etc. You will have to check this out with someone more knowledgeable.

                      I dont have the contact of any consultant in India, but you will have to hunt for one that has imported bikes in the past (and has the 'setting' with customs officials!).

                      CARNET
                      As for the temporary import, the max period allowed is 6 months but i guess under extreme/special cases, they allow upto 1 year, but in such cases, I was given to understand that after 6 months you may have to make a bank guarantee for the customs value etc etc, which will be cancelled once you take the bike out.
                      Last edited by Haroon; 09-09-2009, 07:52 PM.



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                      • #12
                        Wow, that R1 looks very neat & clean.

                        Originally posted by David_smith2999
                        @ haroon
                        So isnt that possible I'll bring the bike in carnet then come back to australia but leave the bike in india forever with the help of sum settings in custom Or I'll have to have a TR when I'll be permanently importing a bike to india????
                        Like I said earlier, for customs dept, the Carnet route is treated differently, while the regular import route is treated differently. They wont mix the two and even if they do, it is very difficult to get away with setting as many officers will be involved in the process and everybody will want a slice of the cake. PLUS, I think there will be added penalties for changing from temporary import to permanent import.

                        If the carnet is registered on your name, you wont be allowed to leave the bike in India and fly back to Australia- They hold you back at the airport.

                        Why I am telling you all this is coz, I have read about a few people who have gone thru this and its an extremely troublesome job to import a bike by individuals. As mentioned in another thread, a Limited Edition Hyabusa that I purchased new for a friend and sent it to him in bangalore in dismantled condition (as some crackpot in India advised him that import duty is less for dismantled bikes). Inspite of his setting/influence/political connection etc, he ended up paying customs, penalties and dammurage of Rs. 14,00,000 at bangalore airport. This was in addition to the Rs. 5,00,000 he paid for purchasing the bike here. Total cost Rs. 19,00,000, whereas a grey market new Hyabusa at that time would have cost him Rs. 10,00,000 only delivered in bangalore.

                        Originally posted by David_smith2999
                        The most amazing thing is that my father is in custom hahhah but in delhi domestic IGI airport and he said 99.9% he can't do anything regarding importation of my bike coz he been very desperate to his work what he's doin at the moment. You know what i mean? Work is worship for my father since he joined.
                        Full appreciation to your father for his sincere advise to you. Besides, when expensive bikes/cars are involved the Customs Vigilance dept also have their eyes & ears wide open. So you could put your dad in trouble later.

                        Originally posted by David_smith2999
                        But I didn"t unterstand this one,,,Is that mean that how I m gonna afford it in india????
                        No, its not the affordability. I mean its gonna cost you a lot of money at the end of the whole importation process since the customs duty percentage for you as a student will be treated like a regular Indian who lives/works in India. You wont be considered like me (I am an NRI working abroad and I can avail TR facility).

                        My timings are topsy-turvy now with ramadan here. I think the above should be sufficiently clear now, but if you have any doubts just PM me.
                        Last edited by Haroon; 09-10-2009, 07:58 AM.



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                        • #13
                          Re: Need help Plz

                          If they are part of the goods being delivered and are a value add to the import you will pay GST on the item at cost including freight as technically you are taxed as 'Goods and Services'. If they catch you with undeclared goods, then customs will make you pay a duty and an extra fine. I've found that customs really doesn't care that much about ordinary goods since those are under an exemption. Learn more here: ACC customs broker Australia
                          Last edited by dolsonlelan; 07-27-2020, 04:02 AM.

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