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  • #16
    Originally posted by dafc View Post
    Oh how I wish I could my hands on one at a good enough moolah because I don't see my money doing any good with the RX damn thing is a stupid little moped.
    Careful on what you talk of RX. A stupid little moped doesn't do a 13-14 sec in quarter mile drag!!!!!!!!! Come to B'lore & i will show you what a puny 100cc motor is capable of.


    Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
    These days it does not matter if its an LT or an HT because clean RDs are hard to find and mostly are sleeved and in a shagged condition. A good unsleeved LT on RDD goddies will smoke a HT anytime.
    Doc, i really have lot of respect for you, but for god's sake stop marketing a particular brand on a imformative & neutral site like xbhp. No offence taken, none given. Thanks for understanding.


    Originally posted by dafc View Post
    true that unsleeved LT barrels are frackin rare though and the RDD CDI is a boon for RDs and RXs where timing keeps jumping all over the place
    Try PVL, you will not talk about RDD ever in your lifetime. I am not marketing for PVL, but this is what is called a "Racing Ignition" & is for pure performance. Please dont be like that "frog in the well", come out of it & you will see some serious performance oriented products used in actual racing conditions. I got nothing to lose here, i can get what i want & my machines speak of pure performance.

    Most importantly, i dont use products which are not tested in actual racing condition. Even though my bikes are for street use, but they are strictly biased towards drag setup, especially the Green 5-speeder.

    Just FYI, the fastest RD in drag racing is from B'lore & so is the RX & none of them use your CDIs. Please do some research.

    Peace.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post

      Doc, i really have lot of respect for you, but for god's sake stop marketing a particular brand on a imformative & neutral site like xbhp. No offence taken, none given. Thanks for understanding.



      Just FYI, the fastest RD in drag racing is from B'lore & so is the RX & none of them use your CDIs. Please do some research.

      Peace.
      No worries.. It was just for the info for the thread starter who i think is new to Ignitions. I do not market any particular thing but since i have it on my bikes and it performs well and with no other options available in India, many opt for it. Atleast its a whole lot better than points or some homemade RX+Shogun combo units.

      Ofc. there may be better ones avlbl abroad like the MZB, PVL DYNA, NEWTRONICS, etc. i think this particular Indian ignition is a good option for street and value for money. Even people in the US like it and have even used it on TZs.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
        Try PVL, you will not talk about RDD ever in your lifetime. I am not marketing for PVL, but this is what is called a "Racing Ignition" & is for pure performance. Please dont be like that "frog in the well", come out of it & you will see some serious performance oriented products used in actual racing conditions. I got nothing to lose here, i can get what i want & my machines speak of pure performance.
        Just so you know "Captain Ignorant" only PVL "analog" ignition module has a dynamic curve and the "digital" ignition module is suitable for <=200cc motors and has a permanent advance/retard. Compare the price of AVL with RDD ignition and no wasted spark you sound a little slow on your research and why do you want me to come to Bangalore? You look like you have a lot to prove come over and give me the "shock and awe" and oh please take me out of my so called "well" while you are at it lol

        PROTIP: PVL is actually suitable for motocross but if you call dragging as motocrossing I don't wanna hear your version of "drifting"
        RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dafc View Post
          Just so you know "Captain Ignorant" only PVL "analog" ignition module has a dynamic curve and the "digital" ignition module is suitable for <=200cc motors and has a permanent advance/retard. Compare the price of AVL with RDD ignition and no wasted spark you sound a little slow on your research and why do you want me to come to Bangalore? You look like you have a lot to prove come over and give me the "shock and awe" and oh please take me out of my so called "well" while you are at it lol

          PROTIP: PVL is actually suitable for motocross but if you call dragging as motocrossing I don't wanna hear your version of "drifting"

          Chill guys ... lets not turn this into a mudslinging context ...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ravi_afriend View Post
            Currently I am having 3 RD 350s with me.
            3 Rd 350's ..Why is the grass always green on the other side.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by dafc View Post
              Just so you know "Captain Ignorant" only PVL "analog" ignition module has a dynamic curve and the "digital" ignition module is suitable for <=200cc motors and has a permanent advance/retard. Compare the price of AVL with RDD ignition and no wasted spark you sound a little slow on your research and why do you want me to come to Bangalore? You look like you have a lot to prove come over and give me the "shock and awe" and oh please take me out of my so called "well" while you are at it lol

              PROTIP: PVL is actually suitable for motocross but if you call dragging as motocrossing I don't wanna hear your version of "drifting"
              Have you ever been involved in Drag racing or heck any national racing event for that matter?

              Bangalore is the hub for 2-strokes, especially RX & RDs. Come and witness some of the finest race built machines here, that is what Karthik was trying to tell you. If you are happy racing tractors, then be it. We are not the ones losing out.

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              • #22
                Kartik no use breaking your head trying to educate unfortunate souls who are not based in bangalore and hence do not know off anything other than *** - which is also bangalore based. Co-incidence? hmm.. though i do not agree with you on the utility of a PVL - most people dont have that kind of a money to spend on a race only ignition.

                dafc u seem to quite an enthusiast - why not make a trip to bangalore and hook up with some two stroke fans in this city. try and see through the bullshit and brainwash which everyone will try to feed you - this city will show u what reality is with 2 strokes. ask me i should know - on second thought dont . there are ways and means to make your static cdi work with consistency. and before you write off you poor RX135 because of the standards of tuning and workmanship skills you have exposed it to - do you think you have reached such a high level of mechanical workmanship / tuning that your current ignition is proving to be a limiting factor in achieving what you want ? There is a way to solve the fluctuating current on some RXs and it has got nothing to do with the cdi - problem lie with the coils / rest of the circuit, use a multimeter and find the problem . you should be able to sort it out , after all you have the benefit of education - illiterate mechanics here in bangalore are able to not only fix it but are able to push this puny 135cc machine to achieve 12 sec figures at the 1/4 mile using static stock ignitions - forget 1/4 mile lets go a little further to chennai and look at the levels of performance/ tuning they have achieved on the race track with simple ignitions - fast enough for privateers to compete with a factory team ( TVS ) when 2 strokes were raced. To solve your problem you might have to replace a few parts - even if you replace your whole ignition kit it will work out cheaper than what people here market out of their pocket as though they are doing you some charity. For good lighting/ current getting the Ravi Nagesh 90/100 kit for both RXs and RD350s is awesome VFM. So awesome that other people sell it as their own product.

                Dont belittle the machine , belittle the tuning skills that it is being exposed to. RXs in Bangalore have reached a level where they are just shy of the RD350s timings by a few milli seconds - i think that speaks tons of the tuning that has been achieved with the RX. If you are getting frustrated with your RX it is best you stay very far away from an RD350 as it cannot get possibly worst that that.

                Over and Out.
                Last edited by Vampire; 07-21-2011, 03:28 PM.

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                • #23
                  @fistoffury I suggest you get off the interwebs and work on your sentence comprehension skills.

                  @vampire stroll through the last few pages the rage is over how RDD ignition is bad and people who advocate it are stupid blablbalbalbalbalablabla hurrr and durrr, idk maybe karthik has a personal vendetta with RDD but I don't wish to go into that. I own a stock RX100 and it is OK, over the last couple of years I have tuned and rebuilt the motor myself. I have two questions for you first is Do you think for a daily commuter static ignition is much better than dynamic? Second who else besides RDD makes dynamic ignition systems for the RX series? And I know Ravi Nagesh made the first digital ignition system for the RD and I have seen a couple of videos of his ignition system for RX series on youtube. Has this guy got a website or something?
                  RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sixspeedtwin View Post
                    Confucius say .... " Bowed is the Branch which bears more fruit" <In a Chinese Accent>
                    confucius also say... "two-strokers are touchy touchy touchy"
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by xionite View Post
                      confucius also say... "two-strokers are touchy touchy touchy"
                      RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dafc View Post
                        @fistoffury I suggest you get off the interwebs and work on your sentence comprehension skills.

                        @vampire stroll through the last few pages the rage is over how RDD ignition is bad and people who advocate it are stupid blablbalbalbalbalablabla hurrr and durrr, idk maybe karthik has a personal vendetta with RDD but I don't wish to go into that. I own a stock RX100 and it is OK, over the last couple of years I have tuned and rebuilt the motor myself. I have two questions for you first is Do you think for a daily commuter static ignition is much better than dynamic? Second who else besides RDD makes dynamic ignition systems for the RX series? And I know Ravi Nagesh made the first digital ignition system for the RD and I have seen a couple of videos of his ignition system for RX series on youtube. Has this guy got a website or something?
                        People like Ravi-Nagesh don't need any website for publicity. Ravi-Nagesh is a legend, its better you don't involve his name here.

                        Just ask your digi CDI guru as to from where he gets his 90/100 Kits from!!!!!!!!!

                        Cant believe sitting some 2000kms away from the city of 2-strokes, you sure seem to know a lot more than we people do.

                        My request to you is, lets be gentlemen & accept facts & figures as they are. Nobody knows it better than fellow B'loreans who deal most of the time with bikes like RX, Shoguns & RD350.

                        Just ask Sriram how he felt when he landed in Mysore. Trust me, you will go crazy seeing so many 2-strokes at a time. You may also check the pic & vid i had posted in 2-stroke indian bikes thread. When we talk, we talk with practical results. Do you have any?? If so, then please share them. I can also sit & talk tons & tons of crap on how to modify etc etc, but at the end of the day what matters is "PERFORMANCE".

                        I am openly asking any guy here on xbhp running on RDD goodies to walk-the-walk agaisnt my Green 5-Speeder. On paper everybody's RX seems to be doing 140Kmph, lets do it once & for all. Anybody interested may send a PM with Date & Time, i will be there.

                        Simply fed up of this discussion. Battling it down seems to be the only solution to me.

                        @ Alroy & Raj, no point in debating guys. Even after posting videos of a real drag, people still seem to be in cocoon here, cant help it.
                        Last edited by karthikdattag; 07-21-2011, 05:09 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                          People like Ravi-Nagesh don't need any website for publicity. Ravi-Nagesh is a legend, its better you don't involve his name here.

                          Just ask your digi CDI guru as to from where he gets his 90/100 Kits from!!!!!!!!!

                          Cant believe sitting some 2000kms away from the city of 2-strokes, you sure seem to know a lot more than we people do.

                          My request to you is, lets be gentlemen & accept facts & figures as they are. Nobody knows it better than fellow B'loreans who deal most of the time with bikes like RX, Shoguns & RD350.

                          Just ask Sriram how he felt when he landed in Mysore. Trust me, you will go crazy seeing so many 2-strokes at a time. You may also check the pic & vid i had posted in 2-stroke indian bikes thread. When we talk, we talk with practical results. Do you have any?? If so, then please share them. I can also sit & talk tons & tons of crap on how to modify etc etc, but at the end of the day what matters is "PERFORMANCE".

                          I am openly asking any guy here on xbhp running on RDD goodies to walk-the-walk agaisnt my Green 5-Speeder. On paper everybody's RX seems to be doing 140Kmph, lets do it once & for all. Anybody interested may send a PM with Date & Time, i will be there.

                          Simply fed up of this discussion. Battling it down seems to be the only solution to me.

                          @ Alroy & Raj, no point in debating guys. Even after posting videos of a real drag, people still seem to be in cocoon here, cant help it.
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                          • #28
                            haha dafc - theoretically everything seems very brilliant. what happens in reality is the real eye opener. Please do not ask me what I think - all i can tell you is I have seen both sides of the coin and what people tell you here when they market in the hope of scoring brownie points - talk out of their a$$ , we all did it , at a time when we knew alot less , not that we know everything now , but we sure as hell knew alot less then - you could call that ignorance - and ignorance is bliss.

                            The RX has never had a problem with its ignition as being unreliable or anything as such unlike the RD350. If ever there has been a complaint it has been that the current is weak or unsteady on some vehicles and the headlight is weak - both can be solved as i mentioned in my previous post. I am not going to get into another sh*t fest with this damn cdi - i mean seriously dont you guys have anything better to talk about ? The same thing is happening on the RD350 club on fb . Ignition wars ---- half the guys who break their head on ignitions do so because their bikes move like crap. So they think a " DIGITAL " ignition is the solution to making a motor that holds some 100 psi static compression move like a GP500 2 stroke because it has " wasted spark" and is the answer to all their problems Newsflash : Its not ! But if it makes you happy then so be it.

                            Dafc just to clarify your doubt - the static OEM CDI was never a problem and is without a doubt in my mind ( after running quite a few digital boxes ) the most bullet proof - fail proof - idiot proof ignition there is for the RX WITHOUT compromising on performance or reliability ( commuter or racer ). The people at Yamaha are not idiots despite what you might like to think.
                            Last edited by Vampire; 07-22-2011, 01:19 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                              People like Ravi-Nagesh don't need any website for publicity. Ravi-Nagesh is a legend, its better you don't involve his name here.

                              Just ask your digi CDI guru as to from where he gets his 90/100 Kits from!!!!!!!!!

                              Cant believe sitting some 2000kms away from the city of 2-strokes, you sure seem to know a lot more than we people do.

                              My request to you is, lets be gentlemen & accept facts & figures as they are. Nobody knows it better than fellow B'loreans who deal most of the time with bikes like RX, Shoguns & RD350.

                              Just ask Sriram how he felt when he landed in Mysore. Trust me, you will go crazy seeing so many 2-strokes at a time. You may also check the pic & vid i had posted in 2-stroke indian bikes thread. When we talk, we talk with practical results. Do you have any?? If so, then please share them. I can also sit & talk tons & tons of crap on how to modify etc etc, but at the end of the day what matters is "PERFORMANCE".

                              I am openly asking any guy here on xbhp running on RDD goodies to walk-the-walk agaisnt my Green 5-Speeder. On paper everybody's RX seems to be doing 140Kmph, lets do it once & for all. Anybody interested may send a PM with Date & Time, i will be there.

                              Simply fed up of this discussion. Battling it down seems to be the only solution to me.

                              @ Alroy & Raj, no point in debating guys. Even after posting videos of a real drag, people still seem to be in cocoon here, cant help it.
                              oagabgubaugbuagbgubgoiaogoabgoderp herp this what you sound like to me when you tripping over your setup and Bangalore, ok I get it your bike can move, your city is cool chill out! I have seen the deccan drag and torque night videos. Why are you always like you are on crack cocaine tripping over almost everything? and Mind explaining why can't we discuss Ravi Nagesh? Since he hasn't got any website or a way where complete stranger like me can get in touch with him how else do you think besides discussion can we get to know more about him and his solutions? I am not telekinetic you know? Prof Charles Xavier much?

                              @vampire no disrespect at all, if they were so awesome why does the RX135, RXG and RXZ suffer from lack of blow down that deposits a load of carbon on the crank bearings? Why did they keep messing around with the exhaust port to bring down the emissions whereas the secret was in the spark strength? The proof is there nobody can deny that. This was a neutral argument not looking to start a shit fest either!
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                              • #30
                                This is getting REAL ANNOYING guys...

                                All this crap about whose balls are bigger...

                                Kindly stop this bickering here and use your personal emails to take this to whatever conclusion u want.

                                BUT NOT ON THIS FORUM.

                                This is a Gentleman's forum and I would like people to keep it that way.


                                Share Knowledge, not arrogance.

                                Peace out, y'all.
                                Last edited by sixspeedtwin; 07-21-2011, 09:07 PM.
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