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**sibun** · 10-29-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by 110cc View Post

Hi Guys,Have been trying to restore my KHonda ZX (1994 mod) which was lying unused for an year.Ran into the following problems,Starting trouble once the scoot is swiched off for couple of hoursSticky throttle-The throttle gets stuck at times (not the accelerator handle) and after few mins the throttle goes back to its idle state or else I have to apply the rear brakes to stop the wheel and the throttle goes back to normal, afterwhich the engine dies out.Once the starting trouble arised, tried the followingRemoved the airfilter, covered the carb intake , did a kick start and then the engine springs to life, but again with the above mentioned issues (ie mainly sticky throttle/engine dies off as soon as the accelerator is released to its idle state).The air/fuel screws are in the right position as well.Gurus need your advise here.Would the carb need a replacement?What could be the possible issue?The mechanic said he had found enough sludge and rust in the carb, that had seeped in from the fuel tank since it was lying unused for an year, and he had a tough time cleaning it.I checked the local market for a Keihin Carb, but unable to and found a shop here which has just one SPACO carb for kinetic, in stock, costing around INR 1400.Is it worth replacing the carb or any other brands that you could recommmend?Thanks

Before changing the carb, try to repair it. Open the complete carb and check. Your problem is that slide is getting stuck. Open everything and get a new air screw and then try. Use carb cleaner and spray it over all the parts keeping care not to spray on rubber parts. Let it soak for a day and then clean it with petrol and brush.After that re-fit everything and fit new air screw and then re-tune it. This will solve your problem. If possible clean the fuel tank to take out all rust.Use IFTEX SYSTEM 23 or SYSTEM P which will clean your complete inlet system to engine. This will solve the problem.If it doesn't solve get the SPACCO carb and do not worry, it is an excellent carb as it partners with dellreto of germany.The advantage is that SPACCO supplies all parts of carb thus making it easy to get all spares of carb unlike original keihin which has no support of spares in aftermarket.

**110cc** · 10-29-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by sibun View Post

Before changing the carb, try to repair it. Open the complete carb and check. Your problem is that slide is getting stuck. Open everything and get a new air screw and then try. Use carb cleaner and spray it over all the parts keeping care not to spray on rubber parts. Let it soak for a day and then clean it with petrol and brush.After that re-fit everything and fit new air screw and then re-tune it. This will solve your problem. If possible clean the fuel tank to take out all rust.Use IFTEX SYSTEM 23 or SYSTEM P which will clean your complete inlet system to engine. This will solve the problem.If it doesn't solve get the SPACCO carb and do not worry, it is an excellent carb as it partners with dellreto of germany.The advantage is that SPACCO supplies all parts of carb thus making it easy to get all spares of carb unlike original keihin which has no support of spares in aftermarket.

Brilliant, thanks for the tip.
I did clean the carb last evening, soaked it overnight as well.Its looks real clean now, but the issue persists.I read elsewhere it could be the autochoke issue or somthing?I am not aware how that works.Let me know if you have some info on this.
Have asked the shopkeeper to hold on to the SPACO, probably will get that as a last option

**yamdoot** · 10-29-2012, 12:56 PM

Did you remove all the internals of the carb and clean them? clean the jets nicely. A carb cleaner spray comes in handy when doing this. Change the throttle cable as well.

**Honda_CBF** · 10-30-2012, 01:40 AM

Lean AFR causes that 'auto acceleration' thing to my kinetic. Check that too.

**sinnerz2000** · 10-30-2012, 06:43 AM

Hey, I have my old kine zx too, bought in 1999. I had the same starting issue but couldn't figure out the prob. When the kicker ratchet was worn out I replaced it nd Viola! The start issue was resolved. Get ur kicker assembly checked bro. And Pls post pics nd update regularly

hope I helped u

**RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy** · 05-13-2014, 12:00 PM

Drilling in airbox can help in power gain?

Hey folks,
I am having a kinetic honda zx.
I am thinking of drilling 5 or 6 holes in the airbox for power gain and some strange 'racing' sound.
Will this workout?
It is around 20 yrs old now!
I don't think about selling it!
So give me some feed back!!!

**Honda_CBF** · 05-14-2014, 08:03 AM

Re: Drilling in airbox can help in power gain?

Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post

Hey folks,
I am having a kinetic honda zx.
I am thinking of drilling 5 or 6 holes in the airbox for power gain and some strange 'racing' sound.
Will this workout?
It is around 20 yrs old now!
I don't think about selling it!
So give me some feed back!!!

power wont increase. (even after re-tune and re-jet) but sound will be good, but dont do it. not worth it..

btw, how is the power and mileage? you may be feeling loss of power because of something else..

**RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy** · 05-16-2014, 09:12 AM

Re: Drilling in airbox can help in power gain?

Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post

power wont increase. (even after re-tune and re-jet) but sound will be good, but dont do it. not worth it..

btw, how is the power and mileage? you may be feeling loss of power because of something else..

I don't know how to say the power figures but 0-40 takes more than 6 secs

When it is at 0 speed when I turn the accelerator completely, I don't feel that the vehicle is pulling me. Only sound coming from the exhaust

After 2-3 secs, It is pulling strong!

This strange thing makes me not to beat any 100cc bikes like HH Splendor, Suzuki Samurai, etc

I am also having a HH Splendor and gave it to my friend i being on the kinetic, the splendor took meters but it took meters ahead after 3 secs

I don't know why it is sitting like a rock at the starting

**Honda_CBF** · 05-16-2014, 10:34 AM

Re: Drilling in airbox can help in power gain?

It happens because of the CVT gearbox. thats how they perform. its called elastic effect, newer vehicles is only slightly better. I'm sure it pulls like mad horse after 20kph on speedo

**RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy** · 05-16-2014, 11:26 AM

Re: Drilling in airbox can help in power gain?

Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post

It happens because of the CVT gearbox. thats how they perform. its called elastic effect, newer vehicles is only slightly better. I'm sure it pulls like mad horse after 20kph on speedo

Then how to increase power? now I am not asking in the CVT Gearbox section. I am asking like Air filter, Reboring, Re-jetting, Big Bore, etc. Its OK for me for a 20 year old bike!
My budget is 1100rs, Can I do something to increase power and mileage(Don't hit me for this)

**Honda_CBF** · 05-18-2014, 12:24 PM

Re: Kinetic Honda ZX -Trying to restore-Running into issues!

I'm afraid there is no way of producing more power without burning more fuel, I mean mileage is bound to get less with more power produced, unless you change its gearing (which i don't think is possible with CVT gear box)

and for absolute power, big bore and little bump in compression ratio should help. but it will reduce mileage..

all other things like special air filter/ exhaust pipes/ spark plug etc provide nothing in return.

for keeping your kinetic peppy just carry on normal maintenance which should make sure that all the power produced is transfered to rear wheel. like, clutch condition (kinetics are known to eat clutch shoes for lunch if used in low speed/ heavy traffic) correct AFR, timely engine and exhaust de-carb..

**RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy** · 06-01-2014, 01:46 PM

Re: Kinetic Honda ZX -Trying to restore-Running into issues!

Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post

I'm afraid there is no way of producing more power without burning more fuel, I mean mileage is bound to get less with more power produced, unless you change its gearing (which i don't think is possible with CVT gear box)

and for absolute power, big bore and little bump in compression ratio should help. but it will reduce mileage..

all other things like special air filter/ exhaust pipes/ spark plug etc provide nothing in return.

for keeping your kinetic peppy just carry on normal maintenance which should make sure that all the power produced is transfered to rear wheel. like, clutch condition (kinetics are known to eat clutch shoes for lunch if used in low speed/ heavy traffic) correct AFR, timely engine and exhaust de-carb..

What is the cost of clutch shoes with labour costs?

**sinnerz2000** · 06-01-2014, 03:21 PM

Re: Kinetic Honda ZX -Trying to restore-Running into issues!

Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post

What is the cost of clutch shoes with labour costs?

400-600 bucks

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