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  • RE 350 Electra 2008, restoration and upgrades

    Friends,
    This thread is about the restoration of my colleague's 2008 model Electra 5 speed. He is the second owner since 8 months. It was already driven for 13500 kms while he took it over. He is a sedate driver and hadn't abused any of his drives be it his RX100 / Aviator / Manza. After few weeks of driving, he experienced inconsistent idling and starting issues. Cleaning the carb and changing spark plug did not solve the problem.
    Consulting a few Bullet doctors we dared to open the engine head and see what's inside. This is where this thread should actually start. We saw a nice good scratch on the piston & cylinder indicating a seizure somewhere in the past, by the previous owner. Apart from the valve replacement & lapping, the rest was a DIY job in his parking. Gathering time after office hours we were finally able to fire the engine after a week of manhandling the engine parts. New filter, oil & gaskets went in.


    Time to run-in the engine. He had been out of station and I was delighted to use the bullet for the next 3 months. I had carefully run-in the engine keeping the speed less than 60kmph and even changed oil & filter after 1500 kms. After around 2000 kms I had to return the bike back to him upon his arrival. A couple of weeks later he had taken it for a highway drive along with friends who were on FZ, Avenger & Duke390. In a rush of adrenalin to catch up the Duke, he had revved it hard and kept pace with 390 till the engine suddenly lost power and coughed. So you bulleteers know what had happened. The engine had seized. Though he held the clutch immediately and the engine was still idling it generated a weird noise while accelerating on load. Now he starts worrying about his bull again.

    This time the bullet was taken to a proper doctor who worked on bulls since his childhood. As he found the connecting rod play a little excessive he suggested an engine rebuild. Apart from the engine rebuild he got the itch to convert it to classic 350. So, below is the list of upgrades he has in his mind and has purchased some parts for the same.
    1) Fuel sender in the tank + Fuel gauge in place of Ammeter
    2) Tachometer in place of the ign switch
    3) Twinspark in place of de-compressor + Machismo type De-comp if there is a need. His bike has a self start
    4) Mudguards & seats of classic 350
    5) Illuminated switch console of P-220 + BCU + Indicator cutoff with sensor + wiring
    6) Complete painting + chrome + Aluminium buffing
    7) BS29 CV carburetor
    8) Oval resonator Classic style

    The 2 day weekend gave us the time to sand blast and deposit the chassis frame for powder coating.
    Guys, please feel free to post your comments, feedbacks and above all share your experiences if you had already tried out any of the above listed experiments.
    Thank you.
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    • #3
      Re: RE 350 Electra 2008, restoration and upgrades

      The chassis frame is back after powder coating, and handed over to the mechanic for building the vehicle. Also seen this the picture are the split seats of classic 350 & the Engine case after buffing
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      • #4
        Fuel Meter for Enfield bullet

        Here with I am attaching some pictures of adapting a Bajaj Pulsar Fuel meter into bullet's ammeter. The P150 meter dial was cut in the periphery and filed a little to take the size of ammeter dial. The housing it yet to be finished, before which I need to know if painting the dial white would be better because the speedometer has got a white dial.
        Attached Files
        Last edited by ilango; 01-10-2014, 10:53 AM.

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        • #5
          Wiring Harness upgrade

          The 2 day weekend gave us some time to crawl a little ahead. Plated and buffed parts have arrived.
          Deciphering the Bajaj Pulsar wiring harness and matching it for Bullet was fun.
          Yes, this Electra is going to have the illuminated switch console, Indicator auto cut-off sensor, BCU & wiring harness of P220 without damaging its classic looks.
          Also the rectifier is being replaced with Bajaj GC1000 rectifier unit for having a Battery charge warning lamp.
          Attached are some pictures of the new standard size cylinder & piston, Wiring harness testing in progress, & the plated parts. We were told that in place of the 3rd single ring
          a 3 ring arrangement has been the latest update in the market & we went for it.
          Guys, has someone fitted an oil pressure switch like in a car? The last picture is of a bullet which has one. It was parked somewhere near a shop and the owner wasn't seen there.
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Standard 500 carburetor flange adaptation for RE350 & BS carb combo

            The engine has been assembled as per standard specs with a new 350cc cylinder, piston & head with new valves. As planned, and after brain storming with various options to fit a BS carburetor in the CI 350 engine under the constraint that the length of the carburetor mouth from the engine head has to be minimal, the following was executed.
            1. The UCE 350 carb flange - Needed some machining to match the holes. But the flange was too thick and the nuts holding it would foul with the rubber pipe. So it was dropped
            2. Avenger 220 flange - Again needs more Aluminium welding. Still the same problem as above.
            3. This was the one that became more feasible - A CI 500 carburetor flange.
            The existing mounting holes were sealed with Aluminium welding. New holes were drilled for 6mm bolt (against the 8mm standard size).
            As provision was O-ring was also machined for proper sealing, still a paper gasket will be needed.
            A Helicoil was inserted into the M8X1.0 mm hole in the engine head. This item brought down the threads from M8X1.0 mm to M6X1.0 mm.
            We had also made a countersink in the flange so that a M6X1.0 Countersunk bolt would sit flush and wouldn't protrude out as in the case of a stud & nut.
            Attached some pictures for your reference & comments.
            -Ilango
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            • #7
              Classic 500 handle bar and Pulsar switches

              As the painter notoriously delays his commitment, we were working at our end on things which we can from home. After some 15 days of waiting the Classic 500 handlebar has arrived.
              The left side grip was too tight. As I did in my Lambretta restorations, left the left side hand grip in warm water for some time and slid it into the handlebar with ease. Mounting the Pulsar switches needed some measurements, patience and drilling.
              The locating notches in Pulsar Switches are on the underside while in Bullet they are on the upper side itself. And this is what was done.
              1) Applied masking tape around the pipe across the switch area
              2) Marked a line running along the existing locating hole
              3) Marked the centre point in the upper half of Pulsar switch cover
              4) Applied some ink in the locating notch in the lower half of Pulsar switch
              5) Held the switch tight at the place & orientation as it should be. This left a round dot in the masking tape on the underside of the handlebar pipe
              6) Hammered a sharp mark at the centre of this dot and drilled a 5mm hole.
              That's it and the switch was perfectly mounted.
              Meanwhile we had also checked the wiring harness for its functionality with its switches and all lamps. Sorry, haven't clicked its picture though.
              Has anyone tried the UCE350 TCI unit in a CI 350 engine?
              Hoping to receive all the painted parts in a day or two.
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Tachometer Housing & Tyres

                The painted parts have arrived. 120/80/18 rear tyres & 90/90/19 tyres for front have been fitted. Both tyres (with tube & fitment charges) from MRF together costed Rs 4160/-.
                The 2" tachometer bought by us did not have a water proof housing. So we had do devise our own from 2 old fuel meters from scrap yard.
                As seen from the pictures, all 3 parts have to be glued / welded / somehow joined together for a single long water proof metal housing with a chrome ring.
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                • #9
                  Re: RE 350 Electra 2008, restoration and upgrades

                  [MENTION=26043]ilango[/MENTION] You guys are doing absolutely superb work and what better fun than some DIY things. Keeping an eye on the progress

                  BTW The tachometer thing just made me curious as I am also searching for a reliable and compatible tachometer to fit on my RE Classic350. Can you please tell me from where you bought this and for how much ?

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                  • #10
                    Re: RE 350 Electra 2008, restoration and upgrades

                    Originally posted by gyan_recl350 View Post
                    BTW The tachometer thing just made me curious as I am also searching for a reliable and compatible tachometer to fit on my RE Classic350. Can you please tell me from where you bought this and for how much ?
                    Thanks buddy. It has always been a regret that RE 350 does not have a tachometer unlike the thunderbird. And fitting a tacho is more of understanding what it needs. You can go for a tacho used in any other motorcycle like a Pulsar (old models) / Thunderbird / Fiero, etc. You get the tacho with a case for a Thunderbird & Fiero. For Thunderbird fuel guage is a bonus.
                    If you don't find those, but you can manage to procure a car tachometer for 4/6/8 cylinders still it is possible without any major modifications.
                    1) Option 1 - Connecting a motorcycle tacho to a bullet (FOR TCI IGNITION ONLY
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                    • #11
                      Re: RE 350 Electra 2008, restoration and upgrades

                      [MENTION=26043]ilango[/MENTION] Wohhhh..impressed impressed..immensely impressed. Thanks a ton for such a detailed and insughtful reply. Now that's what is called information filled complete reply.

                      I would surely update you about the tacho thing from my end :thumbup:

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                      • #12
                        Vehicle building

                        While I had been out of station my colleague Ravi who owns the bullet has been busy handing over painted parts & proceeded with the assembly. As of now majority of the assembly has been done. All the parts of front side of the bike has been mounted. The new learning was that the mudguard supporting stay was different in CI Electra & Classic 350. The lower mounting point was a little short of length. After brainstorming he decided that the long arm from the Electra stay will be cut & welded with the new piece. To ensure proper fit & finish the welder was brought to the work shop and the fittings were tacked in their proper positions. The welded had done a good job, and the painter has sprayed it red matching the vehicle colour.

                        The gladdest part is that the engine was maiden fired with twin spark setup and CV carburetor. One could notice 2 sparkplug leads from the Santro Ignition coil. On the downside, the carburetor seems to sit straight underneath the fuel tank mounting boss. Ravi has thought of using a longer connecting hose between intake flange & carb and get rid of the resonator. He has the UCE500 oval box which will occupy the place of resonator. The UCE500 EFI air hose will connect the filter box directly to the mouth of the carburetor. The most eagerly awaited pictures follow.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Vehicle building

                          any updates?

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                          • #14
                            BS32 Carburetor adaptation

                            Hi all,
                            The project took some turns as there were some hickups with fitting the BS32 with the flange prepared using CI500 carburetor flange. Also Ravi wanted the petrol tank to be modified to accommodate the Classic style fuel cap. Most of the bike is assembled, except for the fuel tank & side boxes. Also the wiring is complete and fully functional. Keeping Gudi Padva / Ugadi as the ultimatum for bringing the bike to the road, we headed to the mechanic on 31st march with the fuel measuring jar. After some last minute checks we identified that the BS carburetor wouldn’t sit comfortably in the hose adaptor with the fuel tank mounting boss constantly pressing the carburetor downwards. As we were desperate to move the vehicle out of the mechanic’s shed on this day, we just reverted back to VM24 and drove the bike home. The ladies of our home were eagerly waiting with Puja stuff & flowers to welcome the restored ride.
                            The thump was awesome and it was like Ravi’s dream come true. So again we had to brainstorm for fitting the BS32 carburetor. A carburetor flange of Pulsar / Avenger 220 procured by Ravi was helpful today. Upon a closer look we noticed that the pipe part of P220 flange was not a straight, but a little offset from the centre. Ravi headed to a Lathe shop and got the flange & pipe separated from the manifold. The RE500 flange which was prepared previously had also the flange & pipe separated. The idea was to use the RE500 flange with the P220 pipe. As the initial fitment trials proved convincing, both parts were aluminium welded and Bingo !!!, the BS32 carburetor was in place, clearing all fouling points. After a few kicks the bike roared with the BS32. The throttle response is very crisp & quick in comparison with the VM24. To ensure a faster acceleration, the TCI unit with TPS from UCE350 has been added now. The adaptation of UCE350 TCI on the CI350 is fairly simple & straight forward. If more are people interested in going for UCE350 TCI, I would be glad to share a write up in a separate post in this thread.
                            Also please check these videos of the twinspark & BS32 in action.
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                            Dear Moderator / Administrator, I have quite a few updates which I would like to share. But due to failure in uploading the allied pictures I have submitted only the text here. I am using a Windows 7 PC, with IE10. All pictures are of the order of 150 - 180 kb. Please suggest me a means to upload them here. To be frank, the experience in uploading pictures here is frustrating.
                            Last edited by ilango; 04-10-2014, 03:47 PM.

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