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    [Photo Feature]: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

    I need help in completing the restoration my Suzuki Shogun. I have completed most of restoration work and i require help in sourcing Clutch bell and Primary for my bike.
    Currently my bike is running on a clutch bell and primary of Samurai bike. I have attached the below pic of my bike.
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    Re: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

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      Re: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

      Congrats on your restoration, clutch housing is same for shogun and samurai, primary gear has a one teeth less ie 16 for samurai and 15 for shogun, to source a full clutch bell is not easy hence rebuilding of clutch bell with clutch housing of samurai and old primary driven gear of shogun will be the best bet. Btw samurai also comes with 15 teeth o/s primary gear drive .

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        Re: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

        Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post
        Congrats on your restoration, clutch housing is same for shogun and samurai, primary gear has a one teeth less ie 16 for samurai and 15 for shogun, to source a full clutch bell is not easy hence rebuilding of clutch bell with clutch housing of samurai and old primary driven gear of shogun will be the best bet. Btw samurai also comes with 15 teeth o/s primary gear drive .
        The clutch bell is having 51 teeth for shogun and i think samurai, max100 has less number of teeths(not sure i think it is 49)

        @praveen if you are going for either used one or a unused one get it in one piece. Otherwise it will be a headache
        Last edited by Shogunsamurai; 02-16-2019, 11:21 PM.
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          Re: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

          Originally posted by Shogunsamurai View Post
          The clutch bell is having 51 teeth for shogun and i think samurai, max100 has less number of teeths(not sure i think it is 49)

          [MENTION=5539]praveen[/MENTION] if you are going for either used one or a unused one get it in one piece. Ottherwise it will be a headache
          Either you get a better accelaration or better top speed in present set up. Btw a used primary driven gear and used primary drive gear will not mate each other perfectly...atleast he requires a brand new primary drive gear. I dont know the exact difference between 15T o/s samurai and 15T shogun primary gear but one can carry used shogun primary gear and checkout brand new samurai primary gear in person and compare it. Samurai primary gear of 15 T o/s can be easily available .

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            Re: Help required to restore Suzuki Shogun

            Originally posted by Shogunsamurai View Post
            The clutch bell is having 51 teeth for shogun and i think samurai, max100 has less number of teeths(not sure i think it is 49)

            @praveen if you are going for either used one or a unused one get it in one piece. Ottherwise it will be a headache

            I have tried a used clutch bell and primary and its not matching and there is also a lot of sound from clutch bell. I have also tried using a 90 grade oil with an used clutch bell and it also does not serve the purpose. I am looking for a new 1 and any help is appreciated.

            Yes Shogun came with 51 teeth clutch bell and 15 teeth primary with Samurai's bell the bike does not perform well, you will get top end pick-up and not initial.

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            Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post
            Either you get a better accelaration or better top speed in present set up. Btw a used primary driven gear and used primary drive gear will not mate each other perfectly...atleast he requires a brand new primary drive gear. I dont know the exact difference between 15T o/s samurai and 15T shogun primary gear but one can carry used shogun primary gear and checkout brand new samurai primary gear in person and compare it. Samurai primary gear of 15 T o/s can be easily available .

            With Samurai's primary gear you will not get the required initial pickup and the feel of riding a shogun which will not serve the purpose of restoration. The gearbox ratio in Shogun is also different from Samurai so the bike will not perform to its full potential.

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