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welcome!! and it can be done... first post pics of your bike.. so then me and other RX enthusiasts can start giving you a run down of things to do!!

Do let us know your usage pattern. Do you use it as a commuter or just for weekend fun. How many kms/day approx? What were the works done for 8.5k?

Converting it to 5 Speed version is going to be costly. Pradeep (pyscho98)would have informed you the going rates for 5 Speed cylinder kit & Transmission Asembly.

Which oil do you mean by 'oil leakage'? Hard suspension shouldn't be too difficult to rectify. A new set of shocks should solve that.

I don't know about electricals though. RXG had some problems with electricals from the factory itself or so I heard. Experts will be able to comment on that.

It would be ideal to get friendly with an A.S.C to procure parts at M.R.P.

All the best

EDIT: It is Bengaluru & not 'Bangaluru'. No offence meant.

bud, just sharing my 2 cents of experience. Never rebore the cylinder from any local garage, you'll never get the performance of the new one. Even if you do so, it will never with stand for a long time. This is the lesson I learned by my mistake of several thousand Rs (very embarassing to quote the money). Not tried, but would like to in future, give a try only with places where they do it machine, a cylinder reboring machine.

Converting to 5 speed is not only costly affair, but also drop FE, change several OE parts. I would recommend you not to be in a hurry & wait patiently to get things done. I've been suffering with a rebored cylinder for several years (but then was riding only 50 or so Kms a week), I was lucky to get a 4 speed barrel about 4 months back & man!!! this is what I call as performance (stock barrel compared to the rebore). If you're not in hurry, procure the parts from A.S.S at MRP & build it up gradually.

If you're very friendly, then you can expect some discounts too

Raghu do check some following things :

1) What oversize its running ?? i read its last please confirm whether its 1mm or 2mm.
2) Whats the current state of bike ?? is it running or standstill ?
3) Retain the 4 speed set up it much fun for the city.

Post some pics first, if thats an rxg there is a lot of enjoyment in it hidden you just need to remove some flaws in it thats it, the rxg pulls crazy than the 135's coz of its taller gearing.. so dont worry you have a stock rocket in hand.



@ Nithin it wouldn't be an costly affair at all only the bore costs an arm and a leg rest is still sourceable at affordable prices, if you say converting 5 speed is a costly affair then what will you say to the guyz who get rx 100 or 135's at 40k+ if you ask me that would not be worth the $$, in the end it depends on one's passion and love on his bike or his set up for them the cost wouldn't be a matter.

I know a guy in the forum who has bought a 135 for a pricey amount and converting it to 5 speed, recently we happened to open the 4 speed engine for the conversion and came to know that the engine was never opened after it was fitted in the factory for 7 long years the owner had clocked 12k+ and shut fill drive, every single part in the engine as mint as u can get, its running on standard bore and the bore mounts on the crankcase had rusts on it, had a tough time removing it LOL enough said if i go on i will end saying the owners name here..

@jd666: I have attached some images. Let me know if you can see them.

@NitinGirish: At present, my brother is using it and I'm using his FZ16. He runs daily around 15 kms.
I know it would cost me more. I have not spoken to pradeep yet about the details.
The oil leakage seems to be 2t oil or side oil.But it seems there is no problem with the side tank. You can see it in one of the image.
"EDIT: It is Bengaluru & not 'Bangaluru'. No offence meant."..sorry a typo mistake will do it.

@aargee: Thats why this time, I don't want to do it with unknown service center.
About converting to 5 speed. I wanted to upgrade to 5 speed so that in future If it ever happenned to use it daily to cummute 50kms or so then it would be worth using then. I thought 5s would be good for daily commuting with good fuel economy.

@Psyco:
1) not sure but it seems it is 2mm.
2) The bike is running and my brother is using it now daily for about 15 kms.
3) as far as retain it to 4 speed, I don't mind. But as I said, in future if I ever happenned to use it daily for about 50 kms or so then it would be worth then. Also is the FE of 4s better then 5S?


@Vas: the bike in the picture you are riding is Yezdi right. I love that bike. I thought of going for it the time I bought RX but I knew maintenace would be difficult so dropped that Idea. It has a place in my heart.


hey guys, If anyone wants to check my bike this weekend, it is ok with me.

thanks

Guys, just wanted to share the information I heard last evening that the parts for 5 speed are even rare than Rx100. I was looking out to buy a clutch shaft for 5 speed gearbox & they said a big "NO" . Its available for 100 & 135 4 speed (available as single piece after 1-2 weeks, but along with gearbox assembly NOW).

PS - I'm running on 4 speed barrel with 5 speed gearbox

here are some more pictures........


@NitinGirish: I am not sure of the exact details. I am searching for the bill, will post the details once I get the bill. Overall it was rebore with some non-engine parts. thats all I know.

^^ yup that they are.. ITs ok to run a 5 speed gearbox on a 4 speed bore, the final drive ratio is the same, infact the 5 gears give you better traction and gearing!

@raghu - You have painted the whole engine block black. would you be looking at restoring it back to silver? or keeping it as is..

the FE is nearly same for both bikes 4S and 5S.

- Also the overall condition of the bike is good.

- Check the chassis for rusting and corrosion. If any, get the paint stripped, cleaned, and repaint the chassis.

- Check the wiring for cuts, brittleness, and general quality. If necessary, replace entire wiring harness to have a more efficient electrical system

- All head lamps, indicators bulbs, lenses etc can be replaced to give it a fresh look.

- Check front fork springs, and you can overhaul the front forks with new seals, fresh shocker oil.

- Check tank for rusting - you can get it repainted, or exchange it for a new tank in the local market.

COming to the engine -

- If you are running last oversize, then best bet is to go for a new cylinder , but beware, majority of your budget could be the cylinder, but then once you get a new block, it will be peaceful riding for ages. ~ 6-7k minimum what i can find.

- cheaper option would be to get it sleeved, and then bored to stock. But then that will only be for running about, and the engine will never perform like stock bike.

- Change bearings on crankshaft, get it rebalanced.

- Change oil seals on engine, also check condition of clutch housing, clutch plates.

- Replace clutch actuation springs, and the clutch housing springs for a better response.

- Get the carburettor serviced thoroughly. Also change the reed valve if never done so in many years.. It will help a lot with the performance.

- When the engine is opened, the cylinder should/would be cleaned to remove all carbon deposits in the ports.

- Also check condition of chain, sprockets etc.

- You are running a box type swingarm at the back -

First query - where did u get it?? i want one too!!

Second one - check the swingarm bushes for wear and tear, and then check the rear suspension for proper damping. replace if necessary.

- Replace all cables, speedo, throttle, choke, brake etc... ( if cracked or brittle).

- Change brake shoe springs, and cam lobes ( as aargee found out for his braking issue). This will help improve your braking.

These are just some general points to be taken into consideration. But go mechanical first, and visual later...

Not sure if I understood you right, I love the power it delivers with the new 4 speed barrel. The torque can be felt after 5th gear at 90 to drag all way to 110 (all speedo read only )

The mech over here says to replace the fork with Pulsar's one. though I personally don't like, do I've a choice?

I think I'll not do this injustice to my old tank. I'll better restore it & keep it handy. Probably I'll change the stickering to give a different look

Just like to shed my 2 cents of experience on sleeving. I came to know about something called full sleeve & half sleeve when my new mech opened up the engine. Can you shed more light on this?

Some ppl do some sorta welding here. Can you shed some light here?

Change reed valve + if you've some additional money, go in for 28 or 36 mm flatslides.

Altering the stay, well altering the engineering. Do you think its recommended? Is this an illusion of mine to see the overall bike's length has been increased little bit?

Yes, thanks for stating that on my behalf.

Anytime man!

Oh!!! I forgot to mention that I've front disc, its not a drum anymore; do I've a choice still?



Ok, will enquire it for you, if one is available. Last time I let the old mech play on my bike, so somehow he was able to souce Mikuni 28mm (Made in Japan). This time, I'll hunt it myself so that I don't play besides I've been thinking long time to hunt for 36mm instead of 28mm (not sure of the benefits though)

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

the malaysian RX-K (our RX135), comes with a box type swingarm, which helps stiffen the suspension and handling at the rear. Makes the bike wallow lesser sideways. If its available here in india, i am interested for my RXZ

I beg to differ here that RX135 didn't have box type stay arm. Here's the pic

http://images04.olx.in/ui/3/19/74/62321574_1-YAMAHA-RX-135-TIGER-1997-FOR-SALE-SAJITH09847101263-.jpg

Thats the indian RX, the malaysian RX-King is what im talking about which has a box type swing arm. Not the indian one.