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The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

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  • #61
    Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

    Originally posted by DeVille View Post
    WOW! That was quick, elaborate and insightful....you've even covered topics that I was about to ask you!

    On paper, the Ceeber is perhaps the most versatile and capable 1-cylinder performance bike. But Honda's shoddy quality in the initial lots and poor A.S.S. screwed things up. Also it doesn't help that because of its positioning it has to please all and has to compete with twin-cylinder superlative bikes like the N250 and 300 on one side and the D200 at the other end. Hence people call it too much of a softie, less on character and more of a safe choice.

    So it's been a while since I've heard an owner praise the Ceeber. As you may know, the Ownership Thread is littered with quite a few disgruntled riders who have faced all kinds of issues and have sold their bikes or traded them for orange nakeds

    Have inserted my comments above. Just a couple of more things for my understanding- how tall are you? I guess the CBR is spacious enough for even 6 footers ...which gives added advantage of reaching the clipons without having to bend too far(Being one myself I just can't fit on bikes like the Duke)
    Also what's your opinion on the general quality of the bike and parts?

    Thank you and Cheers!
    Some absolutely valid points... especially about its positioning in the Indian Market. Also the fact that Hondas the world over have a 'softie but extremely capable and reliable' image. Even their 1000rrs are considered softies when compared with the R1 etc... but somehow they still win races and championships. The riding position like you said is not at all as aggressive as an R15 or the GT250.

    To be frank, i've too thought of booking an Orange 390 mainly because of the competitive price in which its introduced and I like the Duke build quality. But I get rather uncomfortable in a Naked at high speeds when the wind hits me... I prefer a profile which gave me an option to bend over and cut through the wind at speed, as well as kept me up straight at cruising speeds and somehow the CBR250r hit the spot square on the mark. I did a whole lot of calculative comparisons and urged mathematical decimals to help me make the decision to buy it, but once I started riding it, all those numbers and calculations went out of the window... from then on its only been how I feel on this thing and it makes me feel good and totally united when I ride... cant even fathom dumping it... if anything, I might buy another bike, but this 250r is for keeps and I'm gonna run it to its grave. Love it to bits ... done all sorts of fun n crazy things on it and its never failed me.

    I'm 6ft1 and no part of my body feels cramped not even my legs... its extremely spacious for the rider and the seat I tell you, again I dont know what Honda do but their seats are a pure pleasure to sit on... Cant tell you how thankful my butt is these days.

    These days parts are no more a problem, especially in large cities... I seem to find almost everything I need from the ASC these days, not much of an issue. I think parts and spares availability was an issue on the year this model was launched but Honda is has been working hard to expand service capacities and it seems like they usually have parts. Although I always carry spare cables, Spark Plug etc among other bits of essentials on a long ride.

    Hope it helped in someway D... Really nice talking to you.

    Cheers.

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    Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post
    Dude, thts one helluva right up. I now picture you as a guy with a laptop in one hand and a six pack of red bull in another (well atleast when u are not on ur bike) so much frikkin energy, wow. But seriously helluva ride report, honestly beats the crap out of so many ownership reports out there.

    I got a doubt, what did u mean when u said u enjoyed locking the wheels once in a while ? I get tht happening during panic breaking but why would you intentionally want to do it? Just a doubt
    Remember when riding a bicycle we'd jab the back brakes to create a sort of slide through... its that... I cant really explain it fully but that combined with engine braking sort of gives me this sliding control of it which I do while hard braking sometimes. Just a combination of things... the non-CBS lets me talk to my brakes more directly without interference basically and I love modulating braking feedback from from feel. Also I like the things you can do like the back wheel burn that with combined brakes become impossible.

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    • #62
      Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

      Originally posted by Vykier View Post

      To be frank, i've too thought of booking an Orange 390 mainly because of the competitive price in which its introduced and I like the Duke build quality. But I get rather uncomfortable in a Naked at high speeds when the wind hits me... I prefer a profile which gave me an option to bend over and cut through the wind at speed, as well as kept me up straight at cruising speeds and somehow the CBR250r hit the spot square on the mark. I did a whole lot of calculative comparisons and urged mathematical decimals to help me make the decision to buy it, but once I started riding it, all those numbers and calculations went out of the window... from then on its only been how I feel on this thing and it makes me feel good and totally united when I ride... cant even fathom dumping it... if anything, I might buy another bike, but this 250r is for keeps and I'm gonna run it to its grave. Love it to bits ... done all sorts of fun n crazy things on it and its never failed me.

      I'm 6ft1 and no part of my body feels cramped not even my legs... its extremely spacious for the rider and the seat I tell you, again I dont know what Honda do but their seats are a pure pleasure to sit on... Cant tell you how thankful my butt is these days.

      These days parts are no more a problem, especially in large cities... I seem to find almost everything I need from the ASC these days, not much of an issue.
      Hope it helped in someway D... Really nice talking to you.

      Cheers.
      Last edited by DeVille; 09-06-2013, 11:05 PM.
      The man who designed the Tower of Pisa was the First Biker ever...

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      • #63
        Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

        Originally posted by DeVille View Post
        Now now, this is some karmic connect! The moment I read your 3rd para, I had a huge grin on my face and
        Would be a pleasure to ride with you someday…
        Thanks again and Godspeed!
        ... ...
        EDIT: Would've been one of the very 1st buyers of the CBR were it not for those horrible 1st impressions that permanently put me off…until now
        Hey D... nice hearing from you again... trust me, you'll have no space issues with this one. 100% sure. I've lugged around myself and 15 days worth of luggage very comfortably across this motherland of mine whilst loving every moment of it . I've even felt that the bike could be slightly more cramped... never the other way. You especially will love its ergonomics once both your hearts start beating together.

        I guess the early ceebers didn't have a fully functional assembly line setup causing lack in build quality, my 2012 model is built very well - no vibrations, no loose thing, no mismatch in fit n finish etc. A lot of people do complain about the rust in the chain but none of them pay heed to the instruction manual that clearly and with detail instructs you on how to maintain the chain, now upon not doing that there will be consequences. I keep my chains cleaned and lubed at regular intervals and face no problem of rusting... But I do agree that rust shows quicker in this than other bike chains... maybe due to use of chain lube as opposed to grease in many other bikes - grease is denser and opaque. A lot of folks end up abusing the engine pre run-in, change oil grades, mess with the front lamp, electricals, and its hub, fill up to 35 psi of air while it should be 29 etc... I've left it stock... Run it in proper... maintained the essentials as per instruction... No problems. I will however go for performance upgrades but only after I've juiced what the bike can offer in its present form. Its a good bike... I'll use it well before I ab-use it

        India is a starved place when it comes to super sports and sports tourer segments while its always been a high volume market for naked and lower cc commuter bikes. For me the fun is when I can hold the sweetest spot in the RPM range at the best gear possible while on tour or road running... the CBR250 does that with plenty more grunt still left at your disposal (especially in Indian conditions) thanks to its very approachable & broad torque curve. Also like I said before the transmission really impressed me, I'm a big fan of good transmission and this bike spoils you in this regard.

        Oh and I'm really just a madcap, a simple man of this good earth bitten and consumed by wanderlust. And I need make no mention of my preferred mode of transportation... I mean if oil and engines weren't there, I'd be riding a horse and we'd be discussing a special breed from Japan I guess... A rider is a rider. But no I don't do this for a living, however much I'd love to Basically just cant help getting smitten by how good riding feels on this... I mean for crying out loud... Its been close to 2 years of owning the ride and I still get excited about taking it out every bloody goddamn time... ... get it to temp and let her purrrrr... Just love riding.

        Its a good thing you've given yourself time till the year end to make the choice... Loads of bikes from different makers coming up in India by 13/14. I'm pretty sure its going to get more exciting as well as difficult for you to decide in due time... but that's how it ought to be. I'm probably in for a mid-range by end of next year myself... Only problem, Indian laws isolate 600s from the Indian market . Anyway, don't leave the ceeber out of the running if you're in for a sports tourer... No matter what whoever says because it really does what it should do with refined ease, fun and comfort.

        You know with a ceeber or the greenies (you never know, you might just come across a little landfall of greenbacks) your vision of relative distance changes... I mean, a two day ride becomes a day trip, day trips turn into Breakfast rides and Breakfast rides become nothing more than a yawn and a stretch... so looking forward to meeting and riding with you in the future sometime surely. Its a pleasure sharing notes about the ride. Do let me know which beast you finally tame though... All the best - dont forget to take test rides with the shortlisted bikes and judge only when the engine warms up.

        If you need something to refer or read - Roadtripping Motorbikes in India (June 2013) | Life on a Motorcycle - Might be of help but I haven't updated it to date yet.

        Cheers and happy tripping.

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        • #64
          Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

          The best travelogue i have read so far. Hats off to you as you have justified the tourer image. I also have a wish to cover the golden quadrilateral on bike and your post just made it more strong. Realized that have to accelerate my plan and do it within this 3 years as after that you know it will become difficult when home minister comes. My mother is full supporter of touring on bikes and even toured with me on short tours of 300-400 kms a day. Just hope that will get a partner who will tour with me or at least support me. But thank god that is still 4-5 years away so will tour as much as possible and your travelogue has inspired me to take that route, and be sure whenever i will take that route i will remember you.
          Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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          • #65
            Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

            [MENTION=52105]Vykier[/MENTION]
            Last edited by DeVille; 09-08-2013, 02:10 AM.
            The man who designed the Tower of Pisa was the First Biker ever...

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            • #66
              Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

              I simply loved this log. I loved it that you had taken internal routes rather then the main highways. i too believe that seeing the true India in when you care to go a little deep. Beautifully done! I too believe the journey is more tempting then the destination. keep it coming brother

              I hope someday we can take a similar ride together.

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              • #67
                Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

                Originally posted by argentum47 View Post
                I simply loved this log. I loved it that you had taken internal routes rather then the main highways. i too believe that seeing the true India in when you care to go a little deep. Beautifully done! I too believe the journey is more tempting then the destination. keep it coming brother

                I hope someday we can take a similar ride together.
                Internal routes just blow my mind away and nowadays the road surfaces seem to have drastically improved and some of the roads can be absolute paradise to ride. Hoping to carve a canyon together sometime too Arg.

                Thanks for the appreciation and glad you liked going through it.

                Cheers mate.

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                • #68
                  Re: The Indian Midlands - Bangalore to New Delhi Solo on my CBR250r

                  Originally posted by Vykier View Post
                  Internal routes just blow my mind away and nowadays the road surfaces seem to have drastically improved and some of the roads can be absolute paradise to ride. Hoping to carve a canyon together sometime too Arg.

                  Thanks for the appreciation and glad you liked going through it.

                  Cheers mate.
                  Someday mate someday

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