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    Apollo Alpha H1.

    Already posted in the main thread now starting a dedicated thread , will keep updating it with usage.

    Apollo Alpha H1.

    The much awaited first ever W rated motorcycle tyre by an Indian manufacturer.

    Apollo has used latest technology in developing these tyres.

    These are made to compete directly with likes of Pirelli and Metzeler specifically Metzeler m7.

    These are suitable for Duke 390, Duke 200, Rc390, Bajaj Dominar, Tvs apache rr310, Mahindra Mojo and other bikes with similar sizes.

    Life as claimed by company is 50 percent more then Metzeler m7 with superior grip and 2 years unconditional warranty which means even the accidental damage is also covered till there 50 percent tread remains(do confirm this with your dealer).

    A little history about this, we (our dominar group) was earlier invited by Apollo tyre in the month of April 2018 to show us new high speed high quality tyre they are about to launch in near future. They contacted me through my close friend who is the Dealer of Apollo in Delhi so we end up arranging the event with coordination with our Bajaj ride coordinator. In that event they didn't actually showed us the tyre but their team from Chennai was there and they spoke with us regarding what we need from a tyre, and showed us with help of slides what type of thing they are set to launch and what technology is used , but due to request by team apollo we did not share any pics or videos of that event.

    Now coming back to the tyre the official launch is set for July 2018 in pataaya, but the tyre is now available for retail in some local markets, and as soon as it landed here in Delhi my Dealer friend wanted my bike to be the first to get these, though i have only done half the life of my stock tyres.

    So, my Bajaj Dominar is practically ended up being the first ever Bajaj Dominar to be fitted with these.

    Main feature of these tyres is the special construction using 0 degree steel belted technology, which means there would be no dynamic heat expansion like normal radials and other nylon/fabric tyres.

    And this being w rated which is 270kmph speed rated is the first ever Indian tyre in this zone. Now the other benefits of being 0 degree steel belted radial is a lighter and stronger carcass, and with zero dynamic heat expansion the side wall would not crack , which is the issue most commonly faced with Mrf revz c1 and fc1.

    As per Weight comparison the outgoing mrf revz c1 rear was close to 6.5kg and this Alpha h1 rear is 5.5kg, a full 1 kg lighter.

    Now i have been using these tyres locally since last few day(got them fitted 2 weeks back).

    So here is my two cents.

    Overall grip is leech like and is a big time improvement over the stock tyres.

    Did the break test yesterday there is big time improvement, on the lean the tyre sticks well to the road and respond swiftly to body movement, unlike mrf it gives confidence when the bike is leaning.

    Front end on the other hand has become bit heavy and sticks well to road it now needs bit more effort and awareness but is confidence inspiring.

    It is like when the power steering of a car which gets heavy with speed to provide stability.

    I am not allowed to disclose the price/deal i got.

    Here is the contact details of my dealer friend , you can contact him for price and other inquiries , he can also ship to other states.

    Bimaljeet singh

    Narang tyre sales.

    Novelty tyre market.

    Delhi.
    01141503730
    011 4942 8606

    9811237743.

    Feel free to give my reference.

    Comparison pics with older mrf tyres are by [MENTION=50873]zma0101[/MENTION] aka Soni varghese. He also got these fitted one day after me.

    Regards

    Inderjeet Singh.
    Last edited by Ijs; 05-28-2020, 04:08 PM.
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  • #2
    Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

    Would've been great if you had disclosed the tyre price as well (not the deal), but the market price! Otherwise, it smells like a promotional post to me!

    Topic approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

      Originally posted by sunilg View Post
      Would've been great if you had disclosed the tyre price as well (not the deal), but the market price! Otherwise, it smells like a promotional post to me!

      Topic approved.
      Thanks for approving the thread sir, and i understand your point regarding the price of tyres, but i have been personally requested by my friend not to post the price any where online as the tyre is still not officially launched. The official launch is going to happen next month in Pataaya.
      And he is my childhood friend and is like family to me. So i have have to respect his request.
      I will update the price details once i get the permission.

      Regards.

      Inderjeet singh.
      Last edited by Ijs; 06-25-2018, 06:53 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

        Originally posted by Ijs View Post
        Thanks for approving the thread sir, and i understand your point regarding the price of tyres, but i have been personally requested by my friend not to post the price any where online as the tyre is still not officially launched. The official launch is going to happen next month in Pataaya.
        And he is my childhood friend and is kike family to me. So i have have to respect his request.
        I will update the price details once i get the permission.

        Regards.

        Inderjeet singh.
        No worries Inderjeet

        I didn't know the tyre hasn't been launched yet. I take my words back.
        (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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        • #5
          Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

          Originally posted by sunilg View Post
          Would've been great if you had disclosed the tyre price as well (not the deal), but the market price! Otherwise, it smells like a promotional post to me!

          Topic approved.
          The MRP is in one of the pictures. But anyway, that price looks fine to me. The only thing i will be worried is the wet weather performance. M7 RR is pretty good in wet. One of those performance tires out there with very good dry grip and decent wet grip. Maybe the best wet grip performance tire out there. Usually when the dry grip of a tyre goes up, the wet grip goes down. Would like to see how this performs in wet. Also if the OP has information on the tire sizes available, that would be cool too.
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          • #6
            Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

            Originally posted by FATAL1TY - X View Post
            The MRP is in one of the pictures. But anyway, that price looks fine to me. The only thing i will be worried is the wet weather performance. M7 RR is pretty good in wet. One of those performance tires out there with very good dry grip and decent wet grip. Maybe the best wet grip performance tire out there. Usually when the dry grip of a tyre goes up, the wet grip goes down. Would like to see how this performs in wet. Also if the OP has information on the tire sizes available, that would be cool too.
            Yes the mrp is given on the pics i posted and as per that the combined mrp is 15k for the set.
            As per wet weather grip i am still waiting for rains to arrive here in Delhi to test it out.
            I will update here after trying these in rain

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            • #7
              Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

              Being a bit lazy these days so didn't get to update the thread.
              The tyres are performing very well in wet condition too. Rode in very heavy rain without any grip issues.
              On the dry tarmac tested at over triple digit speed , there is no fishtail effect which was present in stock mrf at high speed with heavy cross winds.

              On the mild slush too the grip level is very good, my work place is subzi mandi so there is always some slush present there , i took the motorcycle there after and during rain with increased amount of slush created by waste vegies , over which the stock tyre would make the rear dance but these Apollo tyres have good amount of grip there too at slow speed of 20kmph.

              An overall improvement in grip level at most conditions.
              Confirmed with my dealer friend the price of the set is 10 to 11k depending on the local market and at authorized Apollo shoppee it could be little more as mrp is high.

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              • #8
                Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                Originally posted by Ijs View Post
                Being a bit lazy these days so didn't get to update the thread.
                The tyres are performing very well in wet condition too. Rode in very heavy rain without any grip issues.
                On the dry tarmac tested at over triple digit speed , there is no fishtail effect which was present in stock mrf at high speed with heavy cross winds.

                On the mild slush too the grip level is very good, my work place is subzi mandi so there is always some slush present there , i took the motorcycle there after and during rain with increased amount of slush created by waste vegies , over which the stock tyre would make the rear dance but these Apollo tyres have good amount of grip there too at slow speed of 20kmph.

                An overall improvement in grip level at most conditions.
                Confirmed with my dealer friend the price of the set is 10 to 11k depending on the local market and at authorized Apollo shoppee it could be little more as mrp is high.

                I am planning to change to this from metzeler on my 390. In chennai rear costs 5.9-6k and ive got a discount coupon ( courtesy of friends from apollo). Can you tell me how these compares against metzelers ?

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                • #9
                  Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                  Originally posted by muhammedr95 View Post
                  I am planning to change to this from metzeler on my 390. In chennai rear costs 5.9-6k and ive got a discount coupon ( courtesy of friends from apollo). Can you tell me how these compares against metzelers ?
                  Grip level is very good even better then Michelin psr, and no road noise, haven't ridden much on metz so can't comment on that. But as per company the life is around 50 to 60 percent more then metzeler with similar or better grip.
                  These have been tested on rc390 at track near you place somewhere.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                    Originally posted by muhammedr95 View Post
                    I am planning to change to this from metzeler on my 390. In chennai rear costs 5.9-6k and ive got a discount coupon ( courtesy of friends from apollo). Can you tell me how these compares against metzelers ?
                    One more thing i forget to write is that as per company claims they are targeting metzeler m7 with this one as it a w rated tyre and with duke 390 we get metzeler m5 as stock.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                      Originally posted by FATAL1TY - X View Post
                      The MRP is in one of the pictures. But anyway, that price looks fine to me. The only thing i will be worried is the wet weather performance. M7 RR is pretty good in wet. One of those performance tires out there with very good dry grip and decent wet grip. Maybe the best wet grip performance tire out there. Usually when the dry grip of a tyre goes up, the wet grip goes down. Would like to see how this performs in wet. Also if the OP has information on the tire sizes available, that would be cool too.
                      Metzeler M7RR are generally available in 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 sizes where Apollo Alpha H1 is not yet competing. However, Metzeler Sportec M5 tyres are very much in same segment as Apollo H1. These are coming as standard with KTM Duke 390. There are two variants of Metzeler M5 - H and W rated out of which W rating is higher speed rating which is also better for corner carving.

                      It is very heartening to see an Indian maker daring to get into this segment. If Apollo can come with 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 sizes which can compete with M7RR, I will definitely be willing to put them on my motorcycle (Triumph Street Triple 675).

                      I do believe Indian makers have it in them - it is the makers who got to believe in themselves first and not worry about naysayers.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                        Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                        Metzeler M7RR are generally available in 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 sizes where Apollo Alpha H1 is not yet competing. However, Metzeler Sportec M5 tyres are very much in same segment as Apollo H1. These are coming as standard with KTM Duke 390. There are two variants of Metzeler M5 - H and W rated out of which W rating is higher speed rating which is also better for corner carving.

                        It is very heartening to see an Indian maker daring to get into this segment. If Apollo can come with 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 sizes which can compete with M7RR, I will definitely be willing to put them on my motorcycle (Triumph Street Triple 675).

                        I do believe Indian makers have it in them - it is the makers who got to believe in themselves first and not worry about naysayers.
                        Apollo claims Alpha h1 to be in same league as m7 s not m5,. It is w rated that is 270kmph if i am not wrong, and if the everything plans out smoothly they will soon start RHP program as they have for car tyres. Rhp is road Hazzard protection like an accidental damage cover, they charge 1000 for set of 4 car tyre lets see if they start same for Alpha on a reasonable price.
                        M7 for rear is available in 150/60 for 110 section i am not sure.

                        Just confirmed m7 also available in 110 section.

                        Here in Delhi Apollo can be bought for 10k for the pair.
                        Last edited by Ijs; 12-25-2018, 04:00 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                          Originally posted by Ijs View Post
                          Apollo claims Alpha h1 to be in same league as m7 s not m5,. It is w rated that is 270kmph if i am not wrong, and if the everything plans out smoothly they will soon start RHP program as they have for car tyres. Rhp is road Hazzard protection like an accidental damage cover, they charge 1000 for set of 4 car tyre lets see if they start same for Alpha on a reasonable price.
                          M7 for rear is available in 150/60 for 110 section i am not sure.

                          Just confirmed m7 also available in 110 section.

                          Here in Delhi Apollo can be bought for 10k for the pair.
                          Thanks for your comments! If Apollo Tyre is competing with M7RR then that's even better. However, for some users like me, it is not relevant yet because we need 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17 variants.

                          Important thing is to find out if Apollo tyre is able to maintain almost same grip level throughout its life e.g. if it lasts 12-13000 km, then near end of life, is the grip still very good? In case of Metzeler M7RR, the deterioration of grip towards end of life is quite less though the grip at that stage is not and possibly can't be identical to when it is new.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                            Apollo Tyres is one of the better tyre makers in the Indian market if you are looking for a balance between price and performance. I rode with the Alpha H1 for about 300 kilometres on a road trip – Delhi to Pushkar – recently. The tyre does give you confidence when riding in wet weather with some luggage or a pillion rider.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Apollo Alpha H1.

                              Looks like a good tyre. I have searched this in an around Bangalore, however most or all dealers have stock from 2018.

                              Does anyone know where I can get a less than 6 months from current date in Bangalore? any leads would help.
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