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  • [xBhp Universal Thread]: Will a Cast Iron Engine withstand a Saddle Sore

    Guys

    Just to ask you guys (Experts) to check if a Cast Iron Engine (Obviously a RE) can withstand a Saddle Sore, if yes what would be the preparations and stuff to carry, am sure its not the same as any other normal engines.

    Your suggestions & inputs
    Last edited by rameshmadhavan; 11-09-2010, 04:07 PM.
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      As you long as you don't rip it and keep the max speed at 85kmph, you should do just fine. But 1600 kms in 24 hours will be a stretch - the machine is not meant for that kind of stuff, it is more happy just puttering along leisurely.

      Even if you manage an average speed of 60, you will still not be able to complete 1600 km. I have covered distances of 450-500 in a day on an CI 350, but it takes around 9-11 hours, depending on the route/traffic.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
        As you long as you don't...depending on the route/traffic.
        +1

        Ramesh, you need to keep an average speed of 72 Kmph for over 23 hours considering the 1 hour for buffer & fuel breaks.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
          As you long as you don't rip it and keep the max speed at 85kmph, you should do just fine. But 1600 kms in 24 hours will be a stretch - the machine is not meant for that kind of stuff, it is more happy just puttering along leisurely.

          Even if you manage an average speed of 60, you will still not be able to complete 1600 km. I have covered distances of 450-500 in a day on an CI 350, but it takes around 9-11 hours, depending on the route/traffic.
          Hi

          I have covered 700 kms in 14 hrs, with an hour long lunch with 2 oil topups
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          • #6
            Originally posted by aargee View Post
            +1

            Ramesh, you need to keep an average speed of 72 Kmph for over 23 hours considering the 1 hour for buffer & fuel breaks.
            @ argee - Thank u....ya i agree a minimum of 72kms req per hour to complete the feet
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            • #7
              it would be calling it very close. Because you would have to keep the engine at its peak for a long period of time. Maybe if you had a 500CI, it wouldve been easier.

              Other option is to get a bigger primary sprocket for the bike, so that for a given speed, your engine rpm will be lower, and cruising will be easier also.


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              • #8
                Yes, it is possible.

                Back in 2005, I wasn't aware of IBA and their rides, on my 4sp Electra 350, I did Bangalore(timed from The Reliance pump before the Neelmangala Toll Plaza) to Pune ~815km's , in 12hrs and few minutes. No stops, except for fuel stops.

                Before that, in 2004 I also rode the bike from Ajmer to Pune ~1100km's in ~22hrs.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post
                  Hi

                  I have covered 700 kms in 14 hrs, with an hour long lunch with 2 oil topups
                  Great! But that's still an average speed of 54 kmph!

                  Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                  Other option is to get a bigger primary sprocket for the bike, so that for a given speed, your engine rpm will be lower, and cruising will be easier also.
                  That seems to be option that might make it possible.

                  Originally posted by nav75 View Post
                  Yes, it is possible.

                  Back in 2005, I wasn't aware of IBA and their rides, on my 4sp Electra 350, I did Bangalore(timed from The Reliance pump before the Neelmangala Toll Plaza) to Pune ~815km's , in 12hrs and few minutes. No stops, except for fuel stops.

                  Before that, in 2004 I also rode the bike from Ajmer to Pune ~1100km's in ~22hrs.
                  That's some good speed. That stretch has sparse traffic so that's a good way to try a saddlesore out. But you did 800 kms in 12 hours, and our guy has to exactly double that. So that's practically no sleep at all, non-stop riding for 24 hours!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post
                    Guys

                    Just to ask you guys (Experts) to check if a Cast Iron Engine (Obviously a RE) can withstand a Saddle Sore, if yes what would be the preparations and stuff to carry, am sure its not the same as any other normal engines.

                    Your suggestions & inputs
                    your chances of completing the saddle sore without the bike breaking down will be less than 50% ON A BULLET.

                    but if you pull it through you may be the first Indian to do it on an RE.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
                      That's some good speed. That stretch has sparse traffic so that's a good way to try a saddlesore out. But you did 800 kms in 12 hours, and our guy has to exactly double that.
                      Yes, he will have to double that but the road conditions of Bangalore - Pune section of NH4 from 2005 and now, its atleast 30min's faster.
                      Also, at no time I was pushing the bike near its limit as I was not riding against time, just that I wanted to reach Pune before dark.

                      Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
                      So that's practically no sleep at all, non-stop riding for 24 hours!
                      +1.
                      The slower the bike the lesser or not time will be there for stuff like sleep, food, etc.
                      Slower the bike you have very less or virtually no buffer for any unplanned break down's like puncture and with 19" wheels, you can't even run tubeless tyres, so only option being Slime or something similar.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by harikeshpk View Post
                        your chances of completing the saddle sore without the bike breaking down will be less than 50% ON A BULLET.

                        but if you pull it through you may be the first Indian to do it on an RE.

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                        cpl of days back 2 ppl have done SS on bullets.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by harikeshpk View Post
                          your chances of completing the saddle sore without the bike breaking down will be less than 50% ON A BULLET.

                          but if you pull it through you may be the first Indian to do it on an RE.

                          all the thrills in life comes in taking chances... go for it buddy
                          Thank u, will try it out post this monsoon....will have to complete servicing my bike, as jd666 suggested on change in the primary sprocket, will check on that too... will discuss with my mech and take these chances
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post
                            cpl of days back 2 ppl have done SS on bullets.
                            Think its on a 500 LB, mine is a 535 CI and i feel doing on a CI is pain
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post
                              Thank u, will try it out post this monsoon....will have to complete servicing my bike, as jd666 suggested on change in the primary sprocket, will check on that too... will discuss with my mech and take these chances
                              If I remember it correctly, the 535 has the biggest front/primary sprocket in all the bullets. So you will have to get one custom made also make sure there is space for a bigger sprocket to be fitted.

                              Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post
                              Think its on a 500 LB, mine is a 535 CI and i feel doing on a CI is pain
                              Doing on CI is as much of a pain as doing it on AVL/LB. Just make sure your engine is in good condition and the oil pump is working fine.
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