Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.

[The Monk]

Re: Transfer bike via train

Couple of questions -

1. How many days before train start date can you book bike on train, assuming I want to book the bike on a specific departure date on a specific train ?

2. Is it feasible to send an additional carton along with the bike ?

3. How are charges calculated for #1 & #2 ?

4. Is there some wait period for which the items are kept at the station, before the discard them OR start charging for the duration of stay ?

1. AFAIK booking a bike on the train you are travelling happens at that point of time, not in advance. Though not sure of this.
If you are sending only the bike (i.e. you are not travelling on the same train) then you book your bike and the cargo will be shipped on the first available 'empty' train. Of course agents get it loaded onto the train of your choice and your date, but if the luggage van is full, then even they won't be able to load it.

2. That is playing Russian Roulette. You can, the question is do you want to. Luggage being lost by the Indian Railways is old hat! Getting unloaded at the incorrect station or carried over to the next station is routine work for the Sarkaar. Things like bikes and perishable goods (fish and meat stink if old) are normally better taken care of and thus are less likely to get lost or damaged.

3. Separately AFAIK. If you are travelling then you get charged less, sent without travelling ticket gets charged more.

4. 2 days they will keep it for free in their warehouse, after that demurrage will be charged. Demurrage can work out to quite a lot if they so desire! Also Bombay would mean Octroi to be paid as well!


Sirjee, four questions don't a 'couple' make

[Praful]

Re: Transfer bike via train

3. Separately AFAIK. If you are travelling then you get charged less, sent without travelling ticket gets charged more.

What if someone gets a sleeper ticket on the same train and book it to travel on the same train ? Ensure its loaded in that train, and show up at the station the day train arrives to collect the bike ?

Sirjee, four questions don't a 'couple' make

4some

[The Monk]

Re: Transfer bike via train

What if someone gets a sleeper ticket on the same train and book it to travel on the same train ? Ensure its loaded in that train, and show up at the station the day train arrives to collect the bike ?

Now that would be a sneaky round about way of playing the system. Me likeee Please do try it out and let us know the consequences!

If someone with a reserved seat doesn't board the train, that berth will be allotted to another passenger, rendering your seat booking null and void, while on the face of it that doesn't seem to be a problem, there is one thing that could happen.

TTE when doing the rounds doesn't find the registered passenger travelling. Gives the berth to another passenger and at the next station (Change of TTE) the new information is fed into the booking system. When such information is found that passenger is not travelling with his luggage, you have the Anti Terrorism Squad and bomb disposal guys rushing to your package to see why such sneaky plan had been made in the first place. This is of course based on the hypothesis that the duration of the train journey is long enough for the slow sarkaar to figure out that you aren't travelling on the train and your package is therefore unattended. Chances are none of this would happen and you can happily and safely collect your bike at the destination.

But... Sirjee you are IT guy, why save money Just book the bike and make sure agent gets the bike on the train you desire. Problem solved. Just a few extra monies will be involved which is in any case good for the economy

[ArnabC]

Re: Transfer bike via train

1. AFAIK booking a bike on the train you are travelling happens at that point of time, not in advance. Though not sure of this.
If you are sending only the bike (i.e. you are not travelling on the same train) then you book your bike and the cargo will be shipped on the first available 'empty' train. Of course agents get it loaded onto the train of your choice and your date, but if the luggage van is full, then even they won't be able to load it.

In case you have a valid confirmed ticket, you can book the bike as luggage. It's better to go to station a day before the departure date. Most Luggage/Brake vans have usually space for 3-4 two-wheelers. So better take you bike early and book your slot. For booking bike as luggage, you'll need a photocopy of the below docs:

1. Ticket, which is confirmed and valid.
2. RC.
3. Insurance Certificate.
4. Photo ID.

If you want to send your bike as parcel, which is you're not travelling by train, you've to go and book your bike as early possible. Normally it may take 1-3 days depending upon the slot available.

PS: There are usually two types of vans available. One remains locked throughout the journey and is only opened at the destination. It is advised to put your bike in this van as it is more safe and worryfree. The other gets opened, if needed, in between. It's a bit unsafe to put your bike here as your bike may get damaged or unloaded at wrong place.

3. Separately AFAIK. If you are travelling then you get charged less, sent without travelling ticket gets charged more.

I took my bike via Duronto from Howrah to Bangalore. The railways cost was 2641 INR. Plus packing charges will be around 300 INR. The guy who packed my bike did so well that I paid him 500 INR. It depends on how you bargain.

AFAIK, If you're booking your bike as luggage, means if you're also travelling in the same train, it may cost a bit more rather than if it's booked as parcel.

[nadz11.ns]

Re: Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.

When i sent my bike via train from Jaipur to Jammu last year, i was asked only for a photocopy of RC, nothing else. Packed the bikes ourselves and were charged around ~₹700 for the transportation.

[Minisoda]

Re: Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.

Hey guys this might be slightly off topic so if this is the wrong thread I apologize and request the mods to place it in the correct one. Thanks.

Now for the question, can we transport a bike bought from India to another country?

More importantly the Arab region like Saudi Arabia or Bahrain. Is it possible?

I saw a few Pulsar's there so I don't think it's entirely out of the realm here. I also don't know if Bajaj actually has a dealer there or if the bikes were imported by some individuals. I also saw a P180 for sale!


If someone can shed some light on this or at least point me in the right direction I would be very happy. Thanks again guys!

[Praful]

Re: Transfer bike via train

Now that would be a sneaky round about way of playing the system. Me likeee Please do try it out and let us know the consequences!

If someone with a reserved seat doesn't board the train, that berth will be allotted to another passenger, rendering your seat booking null and void, while on the face of it that doesn't seem to be a problem, there is one thing that could happen.

TTE when doing the rounds doesn't find the registered passenger travelling. Gives the berth to another passenger and at the next station (Change of TTE) the new information is fed into the booking system. When such information is found that passenger is not travelling with his luggage, you have the Anti Terrorism Squad and bomb disposal guys rushing to your package to see why such sneaky plan had been made in the first place. This is of course based on the hypothesis that the duration of the train journey is long enough for the slow sarkaar to figure out that you aren't travelling on the train and your package is therefore unattended. Chances are none of this would happen and you can happily and safely collect your bike at the destination.

But... Sirjee you are IT guy, why save money Just book the bike and make sure agent gets the bike on the train you desire. Problem solved. Just a few extra monies will be involved which is in any case good for the economy

Well like you said I'm an IT guy, we look for bugs in the system

That said your hypothesis of anti-terrorism squad and all sounds very James Bond , you forget we are CID and Daya .. LOL !!

Its not about the money, it seemed to me that the bike is 'definitely' sent on a specific date if one has a booked ticket as opposed to the parcel service where the bike is sent at some point in time. Well that is a problem given that this train runs only twice a week, and you know why we bikers usually ship bikes so if the bike is sent on the next train that just screws the schedule by almost 3-4 days.

A little bit of googling, led me to this nifty little calculator - Indian Rail

[The Monk]

Re: Transfer bike via train

Well like you said I'm an IT guy, we look for bugs in the system

That said your hypothesis of anti-terrorism squad and all sounds very James Bond , you forget we are CID and Daya .. LOL !!

Its not about the money, it seemed to me that the bike is 'definitely' sent on a specific date if one has a booked ticket as opposed to the parcel service where the bike is sent at some point in time. Well that is a problem given that this train runs only twice a week, and you know why we bikers usually ship bikes so if the bike is sent on the next train that just screws the schedule by almost 3-4 days.

A little bit of googling, led me to this nifty little calculator - Indian Rail

Yes yes sir. You don't have to rub it in. I understand that you are going to the northeast for to ride for a couple of weeks while i sit in office enjoying Delhi 45 degree summers. Thanks!!

You can try what you are saying, though since i don't know anyone who has done this i cannot comment on the outcome. I believe a mechanic should not be cutting vegetables in a kitchen and a chef shouldn't be working on my bike's engine! So i rather let the experts do they job. By that i mean catch an agent who does this everyday and promise him riches for getting it right and pain of death for messing it up. Works like a charm in India

But if you try out the ticket route, then please let us know how it fared, will give that advice in future We will name it the 'Praful Play'!

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Hey guys this might be slightly off topic so if this is the wrong thread I apologize and request the mods to place it in the correct one. Thanks.

Now for the question, can we transport a bike bought from India to another country?

More importantly the Arab region like Saudi Arabia or Bahrain. Is it possible?

I saw a few Pulsar's there so I don't think it's entirely out of the realm here. I also don't know if Bajaj actually has a dealer there or if the bikes were imported by some individuals. I also saw a P180 for sale!


If someone can shed some light on this or at least point me in the right direction I would be very happy. Thanks again guys!

You can check out this thread and the links within. But frankly speaking it is not worth the effort.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/31750-taking-bike-europe-carnet.html

[Praful]

Re: Transfer bike via train

Yes yes sir. You don't have to rub it in. I understand that you are going to the northeast for to ride for a couple of weeks while i sit in office enjoying Delhi 45 degree summers. Thanks!!

This coming from the guy who recently rode all over India on exotic Italian machines, while I resign myself to commuting to work on my piddly 8 year old bike

You can try what you are saying, though since i don't know anyone who has done this i cannot comment on the outcome. I believe a mechanic should not be cutting vegetables in a kitchen and a chef shouldn't be working on my bike's engine! So i rather let the experts do they job. By that i mean catch an agent who does this everyday and promise him riches for getting it right and pain of death for messing it up. Works like a charm in India

But if you try out the ticket route, then please let us know how it fared, will give that advice in future We will name it the 'Praful Play'!

I think I'll check with the railway guys directly

[Minisoda]

Re: Transfer bike via train

Yes yes sir. You don't have to rub it in. I understand that you are going to the northeast for to ride for a couple of weeks while i sit in office enjoying Delhi 45 degree summers. Thanks!!

You can try what you are saying, though since i don't know anyone who has done this i cannot comment on the outcome. I believe a mechanic should not be cutting vegetables in a kitchen and a chef shouldn't be working on my bike's engine! So i rather let the experts do they job. By that i mean catch an agent who does this everyday and promise him riches for getting it right and pain of death for messing it up. Works like a charm in India [emoji14]

But if you try out the ticket route, then please let us know how it fared, will give that advice in future We will name it the 'Praful Play'!

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You can check out this thread and the links within. But frankly speaking it is not worth the effort.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/...pe-carnet.html

I'll check out the thread.
Thanks a lot sir.

[kashish]

Pulsar 220 parcel from DELHI to BANGALORE

Hello Friend,

recently got transferred to Bangalore.

1) I am Planning to transport my bike from Delhi to Bangalore.

I have Few options to Transport my bike, Please Suggest which will be better:

INDIAN RAILWAYS: Rs.4500.( LOT OF HASSLE INVOLVED)

AGGARWAL PACKERS & MOVERS: RS 6000.

which one will be safer option to transport.

2) My bike is Delhi registered. I dont have time to take NOC from Delhi RTO.

Does Bangalore Traffic Police stop outside state reg no for NOC's...?

Please suggest ASAP. THANKS IN ADVANCE

[Samarth 619]

Re: Pulsar 220 parcel from DELHI to BANGALORE

Help Topic Approved & moved accordingly to Help Section.


1. In my opinion, Agarwal packers and movers is a better option. Or you can get in touch with transport companies and arrange a truck with all your luggage..

2. CAUTION! Yes, Bengaluru Traffic Police and Administration are merciless towards outside state vehicles. They won't demand NOC. They will demand everything, from RC to Insurance to License to finally, the PUC Certificate.

More info regarding practical experience with such issues, you better get in touch with Bengaluru Xbhpians.

If you're on Facebook, I suggest you join this group for more information regarding the same. Its a protest group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nonkablr/?fref=nf

[rachitsharma2000]

Re: Pulsar 220 parcel from DELHI to BANGALORE

Hello Friend,

recently got transferred to Bangalore.

1) I am Planning to transport my bike from Delhi to Bangalore.

I have Few options to Transport my bike, Please Suggest which will be better:

INDIAN RAILWAYS: Rs.4500.( LOT OF HASSLE INVOLVED)

AGGARWAL PACKERS & MOVERS: RS 6000.

which one will be safer option to transport.

I would strongly suggest Aggarwal Packers and movers. I have used both theirs as well as railways service a couple of times. Problem with railways are:

1. Very bad handelling of your bike. I have seen it with my own eyes how they throw around bikes while loading and unloading. This could be mitigated if you are present at the spot. If not, don't even think about using Railways.
2. Packing: You need to move the bike to the station and pack it yourself. Again, you can pay the railways guy 200 bucks but still, the packing will be just namesake and would not be sufficient to save your bike from damage.
3. Uncertainity: You can not book the place for bike before hand. So, if the railway carriage is full, your bike will be taken in a different train/on a different day. This would mean you won't be present at time of loading and point 1 applies. This could be mitigated by "you know what".
4. Warehousing charges: I am not 100% sure about this but one of my friends said that if the bike delivery is not taken on the day of unloading, it will be kept in railway warehouse and this would add to the costs.

Regarding the second point, if you are shifting for good, get an NOC from Delhi, pay the road tax in B'lore and get a new registration done there. This would seem like an impossible task upfront but persist. It will save you from infinite amount of agony in future!

[Himanshu Patel]

Re: Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.

Hey friends,

Me and my 3 friends are planning a tour of Bhutan. We are from Valsad, Gujarat and the tour plan is to reach siliguri via flight and transport our bike from Valsad to Siliguri.
So we have enquired for Train transport, Gati transport and Agrawal Packers and Movers.

1- Direct Train is not available from any nearest railway station to Siliguri. So they will move the bikes to Delhi first and then from Delhi to Siliguri. It will increase the risk of damage and mishandling.
2- Gati Transport quoted 6000r per bike single side from Valsad to Siliguri and it will take 20+ days to transport the bike. As well as we have to pack the bike by ourselves or they will charge 1000r per bike if they pack by themselves.
3- Got in touch with Agrawal Packers and Movers. I just put my details for enquiry and within 5 sec got a call from their Delhi office. They assured me that they will take utmost care of bikes and guarantee zero damage. They will provide me exact quote tomorrow morning.

Now I want your opinions regarding which one to choose and for what reasons?

Thank you.

[praSAN]

Number of agent in mumbai & delhi for bike transfer

Hi All,


I dont know this is the correct place to ask for number for an agent who can help me to transfer my bike from mumbai to delhi & delhi to mumbai . as i want to go for ladakh ride which is starting from delhi ?

Mod : If incorrect group, please trasnfer this topic to correct group.

I wan to transfer my Pulsar 220 from mumbai to delhi on 11th June & delhi to mumbai on 29th June.
the agent should be reliable.