Accidents in India

[NitinGirish]

Nice topic there sarvodaya, but the fact is i have seen people dying even when they are wearing helmets as nowadays in market there are all stylish helmets by known companies like Vega, Studds, wrangler but do they really give the protection required, though they are isi approved and all but looking at them they look more of stylish and light weight, so in case of a major impact what are the chances that the wearer will survive.
There were helmets like studds ninja and all which were too bulky and used to give neck pain to the rider and nowadays those bulky helmets are not manufactured that much.

Is there any standard way out to find out whats the intensity of damage the helmet can take that we wear.

By that measure Ferraris & other sports cars (compared to Ambys) must be absolutely unsafe cause they use light weight carbon fibre

[RanjithMN]

:O
if the R15 rider had a helmet i bet there was a 70% chance he would have survived!...damn...what the hell was he thinking?he cud have worn a helmet to at least look cool on an R15!!

aren't the Helmet laws effective?here in cochin they do regularly catch them hence you hardly find helmet less riders(but not in the case of pocket roads!)

[Samarth 619]

Guys, I personally blame the RTO's System & Parents for this. If EITHER ONE of these would have done their job properly, this would NOT have happened.

My dad made me aware of Helmets and its use. And to some extent, my common sense too.

Our RTO's are only fit for a country, where people should learn from their own mistakes. And I detest such a system strongly!
Compare our system to that of UK's or USA or the European countries and you'll get my point.

[sonu_buell]

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DREAMS CRASHED

A young Software engineer who brought his first bike with his first salary rammed into a tree. He was not wearing helmet nor carrying his license. It is ironic that we have money to spend on bikes. But no money to buy a helmet and other safety gear.

Dude the guy was dumb & is plain lucky 2 be alive !! Even the safest & slowest rider must have had a fall,slip or crash even if ur not at fault.If ur on 2 wheels then it is u & ur bike which is gonna b hurt more,whoever may b at fault.A helmet is a must every time u ride.Here r some of my bike pics after 1 of my crashes(I rammed in2 the railings on the pavement over 80kmph tryin 2 save a stupid lady who was so late that I guess she didnt mind if she was DEAD !! or mayb she thought she was wonder lady or something.Anyways it was me who suffered coz 1cms of my middle finger in my left hand was totally cut from my body & my little finger bone was shattered.I actually took the finger with me 2 the hospital which luckly was 2 mins away.My surgery cost my parents around a lac rupees & the repair cost for my bike was around Rs 31,000/-.
MORAL: ALWAYS WEAR A FREAKIN HELMET,U'LL LIVE LONGER & RIDE LONGER !!

[moeed]

This can be merged with the already existing topic.

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/5686-accidents-you-witnessed-participated-what-you-learn-them.html

Guys, I personally blame the RTO's System & Parents for this. If EITHER ONE of these would have done their job properly, this would NOT have happened.

I believe that it is the responsibility of an individual to wear a helmet. If a person cares for his life then he'll surely wear a helmet. I have tried telling my friends to wear a helmet, but they do not listen to me. Don't know how to convince them.

[RanjithMN]

Guys, I personally blame the RTO's System & Parents for this. If EITHER ONE of these would have done their job properly, this would NOT have happened.

nope,i don't agree with that,its the individuals choice,nothing to do with the RTO and Parents,almost every Parent will advice their kids to do the right things,be it wearing helmets or well behaving,but its up to the kids to listen,seriously, do me and you need someone to explain the use of a helmet and a seat belt?

this guy made a poor choice and he paid for it,RIP.

[santoosh]

Guys, I personally blame the RTO's System & Parents for this. If EITHER ONE of these would have done their job properly, this would NOT have happened.

@samarth,
If u look at it that way ,if the Govt cut the tree for road expansion ...
this would not have happened .Right ??

No use blaming Parents or RTO.

On a more serious note , Its all to do with Self realiasation and education.
Biking is a risky sport ,be it anywhere in the world. The rider needs to realise that himself.

A million advices or rules have no use, until the rider Knows the value of life himself.
In India , each guy you see is a self proclaimed Rossi.with a girl as pillion , even better than Rossi.Its a fact ,60 pc of the ppl ride haywire with a Lady pillion . Esp college goers.

Even if you dont have a fast bike , invest on Good Safety gear.Thats the most important thing.
Cause even the best rider can meet with an accident.

Ride Safe Guys
Santa

[udayrrr]

i don't think wearing a helmet will solve all these, there are many people died with helmet also
people should get some responsibility and a little care with them will riding

[kaynmantis]

I think what samrath619 said is partly true. So are others that disagree. Take for example in UK. Very few people pass driving test the first time hence license are not issue till they pass, and yes, the tests are known to be very tough. Here, it seems all we need to do is fill up the form and I can vouch for this by my own experience. RTO consitently allows people with half-baked knowledge on driving and traffic safety on the street. So yes, RTO is ALSO responsible.

The bigger responsibility of course lies on the individual. There is a limit to how much authorities can regulate safety. Take for example the taxi drivers in mumbai. It is mandatory for driver to put on seat belts (at least on new taxis). These taxi drivers often just wrap the seat belt over them to give the impression that are wearing the seat belt, while they don't buckle them. Or the rider on two wheelers who will put on helmet only when they are approaching signals manned by police.

[moeed]

^^ I agree with you. People who don't have any traffic sense are given driving licenses and they become the cause of most accidents.

[pulsater]

No training and test in the world can make you "accident-proof" but it reduces the chances DRASTICALLY.

Road racing can always leads to fatal injures. Just saw this ad and posted in bike advertisement thread but it got overshadowed by various posts.



Its makes you think and realize

[Samarth 619]

I think what samrath619 said is partly true. So are others that disagree. Take for example in UK. Very few people pass driving test the first time hence license are not issue till they pass, and yes, the tests are known to be very tough. Here, it seems all we need to do is fill up the form and I can vouch for this by my own experience. RTO consitently allows people with half-baked knowledge on driving and traffic safety on the street. So yes, RTO is ALSO responsible.

The bigger responsibility of course lies on the individual. There is a limit to how much authorities can regulate safety. Take for example the taxi drivers in mumbai. It is mandatory for driver to put on seat belts (at least on new taxis). These taxi drivers often just wrap the seat belt over them to give the impression that are wearing the seat belt, while they don't buckle them. Or the rider on two wheelers who will put on helmet only when they are approaching signals manned by police.

That's why I said:--> "Compare our system to that of UK's or USA or the European countries and you'll get my point."
I mean, take my own example, it was my dad who taught me safe riding.
If my dad wasn't proactive on this matter, I might have been a poser too, who knows?

There was a recent news about a lady who failed 771 times in Driving license test :-->

The woman who has failed her driving test 771 times | Mail Online

Of course, Indian RTO can't be rejecting so many licenses. Still, RTO can make a world of difference, if they at least educate riders about safe & sane riding, with real life examples of past events.

And of course, Individuals can make difference. Like we do at Xbhp. But it does take a lot of maturity, common sense & specific attention to follow the safety message...
This PART is largely the parents' role, unless the individuals start thinking themselves...

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@ moeed: Bro, keep telling them without getting discouraged.
While I saw the same reaction from my friends, 2-3 of them did get the message & start observing safety... And I'm happy, coz I have done my part for them!

[Binoy]

Oh no its sad to hear that the rider died... There was a helmet for me as a life saver on my accident... There are lot of kids now who don't wear helmets...

[HarishK]

No matter how good your riding skills are and no1 safety gear you have, "IT"
happens. So try riding safe, under complete control and lessen the probability of "IT" from happening.




Its like, we all know the fact that any Human dies at a point, but the reason for having so many Hospitals is just to cheat death as best as possible and postpone it.

[Siddharth Jodh]

Some sad news from Nagpur

Another fatal accident:
On Wednesday, a 48-year old rider died as a result of a crash while on his BMW R1200GS. Atul Kaple was a CEO of a reputed car dealership here in Nagpur. While going to one of his workshops on Wednesday 21st of March, his BMW bike slipped while negotiating a curve on a flyover. His bike dragged for quite a distance and he collided with an electricity pole, which broke his shoulders, cracked his skull and his chest also. It is said that his helmet flew off his head when he fell down.
I really felt for this guy and his family and friends. It was only a fortnight ago that I saw this guy during a signal stop and we rode along for quite some distance before we went our respective ways. He wore a nice helmet, a Joe Rocket jacket and jeans and never went above 80kmph inspite of the empty roads. A very sensible rider, I realised that he was not intimidated by any one else on the road. My heart just sank after reading this news in the Hitavada, a local newspaper.
I think getting into the details and dissecting how the accident happened would be very insensitive, but it just made me realise the dangers of riding, irrespective of the location. I have decided to buy the best protective gear I can get as soon as possible and wear it at all times (although I do wear a helmet, sturdy shoes and gloves even now) and be a little more judicious with my right wrist from now on.
His was the only BMW bike in Nagpur.