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  • #31
    Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
    Hi hayaz, from the requirements of yours the P135 suits good. But before you make your final decision I would like to tell a little bit more info about the SS125 since i own one. Since i never owned the other 2 i wouldnt make any big comments about them (although i did ride them).

    First of all please read this Bajaj Pulsar 135LS Vs. Honda Stunner Vs. Yamaha SS125

    The SZ-R is refined at lower rpms has a better torque distribution which makes it one of the best city bikes available. But its top end is not so impressive for a 150cc.
    On the other hand the P135 is a pocket rocket & can smoke a lot of 150cc's currently available but bajaj reliability has always been a topic of debate.

    Now coming to the SS125. It is according to me and other reliable sources (bikeindia.com etc) is the 2nd fastest 125cc at 108kmph after P135 at 115kmph. Trust me its damn good at corners & i have leaned it to a knee scrapping angle. The FE of it is also not bad when compared to the other two. The handling is excellent & the vibrations are minimal when compared to the other two. It does struggle till 60kmph after which it zooms till 100kmph. I dare to say that its the cheapest of the three.

    As am way too lazy for typing See http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/531721-post1074.html
    thanks for the info madhav. i've taken a test ride too on the ss. man its great....mainly on highways as you all said. suspention is just what i need from it.. the only problem being the riding position. as i'm not so vertically blessed, i have to sit in a confused riding position i.e, leaning towards the handlebars at the same time placing my feet, front. the fit and finish of the bike is too good. the engine never ever felt stressed

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    • #32
      please upload some real world pics of the sz-r

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      • #33
        Guys, a twist in the story which made me totally, totally confused. P135ls and ss125 are out of my list, and now enter the pulsar150ug4.5. Made a test ride on the sz-r. It looks hot in blue. Excellent feel, brilliant handling, dynamics, great acceleration and overtaking, superb engine note, zero vibes(till around 75kph, which i could go. I couldn't check the exact speed because the speedo was unwired). It is the high torque at low rpm(12.8Nm@4500rpm) which makes the mid-range so powerful. I felt the bike is kinda made-4-me. But now, its sz-r vs p150. I simply love the pulsar's looks. It is a beast full of mouth-watering goodies, where the sz-r loses out. But my doubt is, how is the pulsar's mid-range performance? The max power 15.06PS at a peaky 9000rpm, and torque 12.5Nm is also at a higher 6500rpm(as opposed to 12.1PS at 7500rpm and 12.8Nm at 4500rpm in the sz-r). Does this weaken the low-mid range performance? is it better than the sz-r(if it is, how?)? What about maintainance? I don't really care about the top speed, but need power till 80kph. Head turning looks are appreciated. Is the sz-r capable of that? Which one of them suits my 5'6" frame? Please help...

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        • #34
          waiting.....reply please!!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by hayaz_xlr8z View Post
            Guys, a twist in the story which made me totally, totally confused. P135ls and ss125 are out of my list, and now enter the pulsar150ug4.5. Made a test ride on the sz-r. It looks hot in blue. Excellent feel, brilliant handling, dynamics, great acceleration and overtaking, superb engine note, zero vibes(till around 75kph, which i could go. I couldn't check the exact speed because the speedo was unwired). It is the high torque at low rpm(12.8Nm@4500rpm) which makes the mid-range so powerful. I felt the bike is kinda made-4-me. But now, its sz-r vs p150. I simply love the pulsar's looks. It is a beast full of mouth-watering goodies, where the sz-r loses out. But my doubt is, how is the pulsar's mid-range performance? The max power 15.06PS at a peaky 9000rpm, and torque 12.5Nm is also at a higher 6500rpm(as opposed to 12.1PS at 7500rpm and 12.8Nm at 4500rpm in the sz-r). Does this weaken the low-mid range performance? is it better than the sz-r(if it is, how?)? What about maintainance? I don't really care about the top speed, but need power till 80kph. Head turning looks are appreciated. Is the sz-r capable of that? Which one of them suits my 5'6" frame? Please help...
            The SZ-R being new and fresh is obviously a head turner (personal opinion). And as you said the sz-r in blue looks superb & it comes for a lot lesser price than the P150. The P150 has its own edges like better SC availability, Top speed, power & goodies.

            Both are good & decent bikes but the sz-r would be ideal for the city & hills due to its better torque output at lower rpms. The P150 would make a decent touring bike. But that doesnt mean that the sz cant be used for touring & the P150 cant be used in the city.

            About the maintenance part then i would say that both the bikes would last equally if maintained well. Mileage wise the sz should win or it is a tie. Both bikes perform very well till 80kph after which the sz may struggle.
            NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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            • #36
              Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post
              The SZ-R being new and fresh is obviously a head turner (personal opinion). And as you said the sz-r in blue looks superb & it comes for a lot lesser price than the P150. The P150 has its own edges like better SC availability, Top speed, power & goodies.

              Both are good & decent bikes but the sz-r would be ideal for the city & hills due to its better torque output at lower rpms. The P150 would make a decent touring bike. But that doesnt mean that the sz cant be used for touring & the P150 cant be used in the city.

              About the maintenance part then i would say that both the bikes would last equally if maintained well. Mileage wise the sz should win or it is a tie. Both bikes perform very well till 80kph after which the sz may struggle.
              Took another test ride on the szr, a longer one, which helped me to confirm the pulsar150. But as we all know, it is speculated that bajaj is upgrading it by the end of 2011. So it makes me wait even more. Or should i?

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              • #37
                If you can stretch your budget for the pulsar 150, Then why not look at the Apache RTR160. Its a better performer, good for short guys, looks good too.
                RIDE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!


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                • #38
                  The hunt continues..

                  Guys, its been quite a while since i had posted something in here. I am still a 19 year old boy who can do nothing but dream of owing his dream bike. Months passed and i couldnot get a bike due to the lack of proper financial backup. That was a very tight year for my dad i must say(my dad is buying the bike for me). And i did fought a lot to reach the 150cc segment. And now the time has come. Financial problems are almost over and my dad finally agreed to get me unicorn. But i still have rtr160 in my mind. Uni, as far as i know is so smooth and reliable, but looks oldish for me who is just 19. Plus, i am on the shorter side and rtr suits me nicely(couldn't try uni yet). I felt the vibes quite annoying, i won't get a chance to test ride uni because of non availability of stocks. So here are my doubts:
                  1) Can the rtr give me problem free ride for 4-5 years?
                  2) Can i get used to the vibes?
                  3) Is the uni unenthusiastic for an enthusiast?
                  4) What about the mileage?
                  5) How about the performance, handling, gearing and all such aspects?
                  5) Finally, which one of these two could be my ideal companion?
                  I need a solid answer so that i should not regret after purchasing the bike.
                  Thank you, and sorry for being out of touch. Waiting desperately for your suggesions and advices.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hayaz_xlr8z View Post
                    i still have rtr160 in my mind. Uni, as far as i know is so smooth and reliable, but looks oldish for me who is just 19. Plus, i am on the shorter side and rtr suits me nicely(couldn't try uni yet). I felt the vibes quite annoying, i won't get a chance to test ride uni because of non availability of stocks. So here are my doubts:
                    1) Can the rtr give me problem free ride for 4-5 years?
                    depends on you, maintain it well then definately it'll last longer
                    2) Can i get used to the vibes?
                    yes you will. Some rtr owners can't live without vibes.
                    3) Is the uni unenthusiastic for an enthusiast?
                    hmmm, it does it's job very well. But yeah, it's lacks that grunt of rtr
                    4) What about the mileage?
                    let rtr owners answer this
                    5) How about the performance, handling, gearing and all such aspects?
                    well rtr is the best performing bike in 150cc segment (except r15 and cbr), handling is also one of the best. And rtr is the least refined 150cc and uni is the most refined.
                    5) Finally, which one of these two could be my ideal companion?
                    i'd suggest you apache. Anyways TD both and select the one you like and not the one which others like.
                    answers in bold
                    Last edited by w4rrior; 04-21-2012, 11:20 PM.
                    TVS Apache 200 RTR 4v (2019-Forever)

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                    • #40
                      Since you are willing to go for unicorn den y not have a look at other bikes in the same price range??
                      1-apache rtr 180-excellent bike imo..if you can stretch upto 80k...just go for it
                      2-fzs/fz 16- best looking bike in this segment..if you are not worried about low fe and want a "headturner no nonsenese performance bike" this is the one for you
                      3-unicorn dazzler-upgraded unicorn thrown in with few goodies,better top speed,better power to weight ratio and a complete package..
                      I in no way want to confuse you...since unicorn are availabe around 75k these bikes are also worth considering...all these bikes are light in weight and have lower seat height making it comfortable for short riders like you and me..
                      if you want a bike just between rtr160 and unicorn,id go with rtr160...better performance and has sporty feel to it which suits young people more...unicorn is more commuterish..
                      imho rtr160 is worth all those small niggles...

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                      • #41
                        rtr vs pulsar vs unicorn

                        i read the whole thread completely before answering.. You went on from 18 to 19.. Just missed out the dates.
                        Rtr is my favorite bike.. Its the best performer as well as has good looks. It gives confidence on the highway and is stylish.
                        Go for rtr.
                        As you are very young, start off with 40-50-60 speeds for sometime and gradually extend it to whatever you are confident at.. As you grow you will yearn for more power and an rtr wont dissapoint you.. Buying a bike for 4-5 years vision and requirements, as you mentioned, is well planned.

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                        • #42
                          @w4rrior..Thanks for the immediate reply. I can't TD a unicorn to make a clear decision. One more doubt: Will a 2 year old rtr performs as a new one? I think it will, for the unicorn. But what about the apache?

                          @kadadevaru..Thanks for the reply. FE is a huge parameter for me. This was the main reason for me being restricted within 125cc class. So i have to eliminate rtr180 and fz. As for the dazzler, i personally like the classic looks of unicorn more. So its between rtr160 and unicorn. Its heart vs mind.. My heart says rtr and mind says unicorn. My dad has a loyalty towards honda and suzuki. He owned a suzuki samurai which was my fav(i was about 5 then. Now we have a black passion pro in our garrage).

                          @muztariq..Hehe.. I crossed 19 on Dec 26th, 2011. Btw, thanks for your support, buddy..
                          Last edited by hayaz_xlr8z; 04-22-2012, 01:02 AM.

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                          • #43
                            It definately will perform like new if you maintain it very well. And if your heart says rtr then close your eyes and go for it. Don't listen to your mind, it'll cheat on you later.
                            TVS Apache 200 RTR 4v (2019-Forever)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by hayaz_xlr8z View Post
                              @w4rrior..Thanks for the immediate reply. I can't TD a unicorn to make a clear decision. One more doubt: Will a 2 year old rtr performs as a new one? I think it will, for the unicorn. But what about the apache?

                              @kadadevaru..Thanks for the reply. FE is a huge parameter for me. This was the main reason for me being restricted within 125cc class. So i have to eliminate rtr180 and fz. As for the dazzler, i personally like the classic looks of unicorn more. So its between rtr160 and unicorn. Its heart vs mind.. My heart says rtr and mind says unicorn. My dad has a loyalty towards honda and suzuki. He owned a suzuki samurai which was my fav(i was about 5 then. Now we have a black passion pro in our garrage).

                              @muztariq..Hehe.. I crossed 19 on Dec 26th, 2011. Btw, thanks for your support, buddy..
                              you cant have both.. To help you make a better decision here are the salient feature of the bikes
                              unicorn - great refinement, smooth yet powerful, good mileage, very stable, but long wating period, many parts not available right away
                              rtr - born rough but much better performer, gear changes are very fast, supports your physique, head turner in comparison to unicorn, similar mileage

                              both bikes are equally good for 40-50k kms.. After that a unicorn will have an edge over rtr in maintenance costs.

                              And if you want best of both the worlds.. Suzuki gs 150r !!
                              Last edited by muztariq; 04-22-2012, 02:20 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by w4rrior View Post
                                It definately will perform like new if you maintain it very well. And if your heart says rtr then close your eyes and go for it. Don't listen to your mind, it'll cheat on you later.
                                + 1 to that...
                                go for rtr 160..if u do have budget then go for fi version instead of hyperedge...worth the extra money spent..although its even costlier than 180!!

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