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  • #16
    Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
    that should not be a particular order as RTR180 has good pickup but its not that good while accelerating at high speeds on contrary R15 lacks initial pickup but its great at high speeds & zmr has better initial pickup then R15 & it accelerates better then RTR180 on higher speeds so you can't put names of all these bikes in a particular order in terms of acceleration..

    now @ topic i guess P220 will be a best option for you closely followed by ZMR/ZMA-R
    Okay Lets put it in this order...

    Acceleration (0-100): P220, RTR180, R15, ZMR, ZMA
    Top Speed: P220, R15, ZMR, ZMA, RTR180

    Full Marks now??
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Wanted DoA View Post
      Okay Lets put it in this order...

      Acceleration (0-100): P220, RTR180, R15, ZMR, ZMA
      Top Speed: P220, R15, ZMR, ZMA, RTR180

      Full Marks now??
      i guess no
      check this link or even other few reliable sources for correct figures & to change your hierarchy..
      Yamaha R15: Performance figures for Yamaha R15 {there are few things still to be corrected on it & also this doesn't include rtr & zmr)
      but now we are going a bit off topic so lets close this discussion here
      @topic P220 followed by ZMR/ZMA-R will be good for you..
      Last edited by 111diablo111; 02-15-2011, 10:01 PM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zigor View Post
        I completely agree. It is a hugely underrated bike. Unfortunately, people critisizing this bike haven't even driven it. It has 14.2 bhp which does not sound out of the world,but has excellent power to weight ratio and a very good top end performance.Just take a test drive and you will surprise yourself. It's a Honda afterall.
        come on.. TS already owns a P180 and he wants an upgrade.. is that the best you could come up with?
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        • #19
          completely agree with Varun....
          I hate everything from honda starting from shine to activa to dio.....
          Just hate the feel of honda engines.....
          Anyways thanx for your help guyz i think i am gonna go for p220. The only thing thats bugging me is the maintainence and lucky draw part (based on going through ownership thread)....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BhataktiAatma View Post
            Just hate the feel of honda engines.....
            and why that may be
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            • #21
              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              and why that may be
              No offence to Honda owners and Honda lovers but i hate the sound of every honda engine i've had a chance to ride(activa,dio,shine and twister)....
              Also i like to feel my bike while riding and i believe Honda engines are over refined and it gives me a feeling of riding an electric powered bike....
              I dont say that applies to all bikes by honda but the i judge by limited experiences i've had with them....

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BhataktiAatma View Post
                but i hate the sound of every honda engine
                Then punch a hole in the exhaust!!! Lol!!!

                Originally posted by BhataktiAatma View Post
                limited experiences i've had with them....
                ^^^ is your main problem!!!

                Honda's are well known for engines. But your statement like Honda engines are over refined & hence I'm going for P220 sounds really dumb!!!

                Anyway, choice is yours; just interfered to clear the misconception on Honda.
                Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  is your main problem!!!
                  I dont believe there is problem..
                  As a rider i know exactly what i want in my bike and so far i've not seen any honda meeting my needs...
                  And its not "dumb" selecting p220 over the over-refined honda engines tell that to thousands of RE riders who'll pay 1.5 lakhs for a CL 500 over CBR250
                  Anyways i dont want to start any fire here i believe its just a healthy debate between two fellow motorcyclists who pursue the same passion but have different paths.....
                  !Cheers!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                    come on.. TS already owns a P180 and he wants an upgrade.. is that the best you could come up with?


                    Accept my apologies, I was not aware of this !
                    I will try to be better informed next time.

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                    • #25
                      @threadstarter: Whatever you buy, before making any decision take a test drive of all those vehicle in your list.

                      Here is my take on the topic ( everything is based on my experience and my experience only ):

                      Power- I am a power freak and love outright acceleration

                      I own a Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi and driven a RTR-160 for some times and ZMA for some times. All of these were fast. Fast enough to zoom past most of the bike when a traffic signal opens. Although RTR gives a different kind of zooming. its just goes like a rocket and stops after a while and will stay at that speed from then on. I don't know probably something wrong with the bike that I drove. Where as Pulsar and Karizma will keep going, atleast till the max. Pulsar has a 3 bhp advantage on Karizma. But Karizma was more comfortable and felt like giving more control on bend and curves at high speeds.

                      Touring capabilities- Must be comfortable enough to do 250 kms stretches without many butt breaks


                      Well, go for Karizma then. On a Pulsar, although the driver might not feel anything out of his passion, the pillion will certainly cry out for his bums and legs. But if you are going to be riding without a pillion on a long tour, 220 is also ok. I do a Chennai-Bangalore-Chennai trip, almost every week. I don't feel anything. And I don't stops for break, not even once. Velachery to J.P.Nagar in one go. And dude don't even go for the fast factor here. I only see high end cars taking over me. Otherwise everyone looks like they are standing. Once I raced against a Honda City. He must be kicking himself for buying City and not something faster.

                      I dont care much for refinement and such, so vibes are not a major issue

                      On a 220 till 120 no vibes at all. After that it starts vibrating like anything. The vibration is something that scares me most times and stops me from going faster. Haven't checked anything else at fast speeds so can't really say. But RTR vibrates for no good reasons.

                      Looks- I know looks are subjective but you may guess which bike will look good on me, i am 6'0" and 65Kgs

                      Personally I think ZMR looks better than anything else Indian. But again that's a personal view. 220 and RTR is not bad either. 220 scores with its head lamps though. But the same fairing is a curse too. 220 owner will understand what I mean by that. And based on the size of RTR, it will not be appropriate for 6Feet+ guys. That was the main reason I went for 220, other wise I had almost booked RTR 180.

                      I'll maintain the bike decently but it must atleast not leave me stranded on a highway

                      Great. Anything will suit you then.

                      My budget is approx 100k so please dont ask me to wait for cbr

                      Most will come under that range.

                      Mileage must be around 35...

                      Atleast ZMR is out. RTR scores here big time.

                      I am getting arround 38 in city. But my riding style is not mileage oriented. On highways I get straight 45+ every single time.

                      I wil just assume that this might help some one if they are confused between RTR, 220 and Karizma.

                      By the way, if riding is mostly going to be in cities, unicorn is best bet. All packaged under one roof. I don't like Dazzler though. Nothing against it, but just don't like it. Unicorn is just the perfect bike for daily commuting. ( waiting period kills though ).
                      Last edited by abhinav1107; 02-28-2011, 01:40 PM.
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