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**Noor** · 07-04-2011, 01:54 PM

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**rx100.7050** · 07-04-2011, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by rx_guy View Post

hi guys
I am planning to buy a bike and after some RnD, I was left with Apache 180 and Pulsar 220F to select from.

I am 5"6 and 56kg
I use the bike for daily commuting and my daily usage will be around 12kms, Budget is 90,000.

I rode Apache. It was good, has very good pickup but didn't felt comfortable with its riding posture, Yet to Test Drive Pulsar.

I got few doubts. I am listing them below. Please clarify

1. Is P220 engine Liquid cooled or Air cooled ? In Pulsar website, Key Features, it says as " the Pulsar 220F is equipped with an oil cooler for better engine cooling and"

2.I don't like the fairing, I can go for P220-S, but I dont want to miss the projector headlamp on 220F model.
After some usage, am thinking of modding by removing the "fairing" part and keeping those projector headlight.
Your thoughts on this ?

3.I read that rear disk break is not very effective. Is it so ?

4.Whats difference between P220-DTSi and P220-FI ? Isnt FI technology not embedded into present DTSi model. Any detail about this would be helpful ?

I rode RXZ, and presently riding RX-135 and I love to shoot away when signal goes green

Issues with A180 are its riding position and I personally feel it looks a bit small as compared to P220

Please get me out of this confusion and help me decide which is best

Cheers,
The RX-Guy

1. Oil cooled. Meaning the engine oil is passed through series of pipes which is cooled by air only, no separate liquid jacket sorrounding engine as in Liquid cooled engine.

2. Difficult to keep the projector w/o fairing. You may need to install projector separately. Members have done that.

3. I don;t find any issue with that.

4. Fi 220s are not available now. Only DTSi.

**revvhard** · 07-04-2011, 03:23 PM

if u want the projector headlamp u can get it installed on the pulsar 220s as an aftermarket part...
but i personally prefer the rtr...dont worry about the riding stance u will get used to it after riding for a few days.....for traffic signal bursts i would any day take the apache over the 220........

**HarishK** · 07-04-2011, 04:06 PM

@ rx_guy

Hope this link helps you out with Projectors,

TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review

**rx_guy** · 07-04-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Noor View Post

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Thank you

Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post

2. Difficult to keep the projector w/o fairing. You may need to install projector separately. Members have done that.

I coudnt find in mods or any other section. Any links for that please..
Are you using P220 ?

Originally posted by revvhard View Post

if u want the projector headlamp u can get it installed on the pulsar 220s as an aftermarket part...
but i personally prefer the rtr...dont worry about the riding stance u will get used to it after riding for a few days.....for traffic signal bursts i would any day take the apache over the 220........

hmm.. RTR has very good acc. and is better suited for my built also
Will TD it again...

Originally posted by HarishK View Post

@ rx_guy

Hope this link helps you out with Projectors,

TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review

wow... didnt see it... is it available in showrooms ??
I TDed at Aditi TVS, Noida, didnt find this....

So, how about taking P220-S and modding it with projector headlights later ? or even a full fairing ?
All Pulsars look alike and P220-S dont look anything different.
Damn, Am really confused

**Redeemer** · 07-04-2011, 10:25 PM

same dilemma...

i am in the same dilemma. I have Yamaha FZ series to add to the dilemma. I like riding the RTR160 but thinking whether should go for P220 just for the sheer CC factor.

How about skidding issues in the old apache. whether any member have experienced it in the new one?

regards,
Mitz

**nisnth** · 07-06-2011, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Redeemer View Post

i am in the same dilemma. I have Yamaha FZ series to add to the dilemma. I like riding the RTR160 but thinking whether should go for P220 just for the sheer CC factor.
How about skidding issues in the old apache. whether any member have experienced it in the new one?

The RTR tyres are hard compound and hence tend to skid more than the normal MRF tyres. But the skidding you hear here at xbhp are more due to improper braking!

Originally posted by rx_guy View Post

All Pulsars look alike and P220-S dont look anything different.
Damn, Am really confused

That's the reason for which I bought A180. The Riding position is more of "what you prefer". I've done around 500 kms in 13 Hrs straight, and I wasn't tired a bit!

**vipin_s** · 07-06-2011, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by rx_guy View Post

I rode RXZ, and presently riding RX-135 and I love to shoot away when signal goes green

Cheers,
The RX-Guy

The best bike for you would be FZ-S.

**payeng** · 07-06-2011, 05:21 PM

At your size and height the Apache RTR 180 would be a perfect fit.. but if you like the Pulsar 220 then go for it. For bikes are speed demons (in the desi context).

By the way any specefic reasons why you are not considering the Karizma R (it would also fall within your budget)?

Originally posted by HarishK View Post

@ rx_guy

Hope this link helps you out with Projectors,

TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review

That's a custom job (or at best a dealer mod job) and NOT a production model

**Drifty** · 07-06-2011, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

that's a custom job (or at best a dealer mod job) and not a production model

+100...........

**Garry_Menace** · 07-06-2011, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by vipin_s View Post

The best bike for you would be FZ-S.

Why? Just because of the name "Yamaha"?

I the punch is "RX" not Yamaha I think. No offences to anyone but IMO, FZ won't give him the badass acceleration.

**Redeemer** · 07-07-2011, 12:23 AM

Went to TVS

I went to TVS in inner ring-road domlur Bangalore. There was a 180 ABS bike available for TD, thebike had the speedo console disabled, so i am in dilemma that the same bike will be sold to ppl after enabling the speedo. The bike is nice. I braked hard @60km in a wet road with abs on [it rained so nicely today afternoon]. the bike didn't fishtail even an inch. the braking test inspired confidence. there is no waiting, so planning to go get the bike tomorrow...The price quoted is 92.4K.

**rx_guy** · 07-07-2011, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

At your size and height the Apache RTR 180 would be a perfect fit.. but if you like the Pulsar 220 then go for it. For bikes are speed demons (in the desi context).

Yeah, I am going for P220

Today, I did TD and really liked it-riding posture, acceleration and thought it would be difficult go ride in traffic due to its front fairing and size but I felt so easy in maneuvering

Originally posted by vipin_s View Post

The best bike for you would be FZ-S.

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Why? Just because of the name "Yamaha"?

I the punch is "RX" not Yamaha I think. No offences to anyone but IMO, FZ won't give him the badass acceleration.

and that punch brings along the trademark RX sound

Tomorrow am going to buy P220 from Suman Autos, Noida, only PBK showroom here , and I didnt heard good reviews abt them

I found its true today when I went for test drive

Please tell me, things to look for,related to bike and paper work during this buying process as this is my 1st new bike purchase

Cheers

**nisnth** · 07-07-2011, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Redeemer View Post

I went to TVS in inner ring-road domlur Bangalore. There was a 180 ABS bike available for TD, thebike had the speedo console disabled, so i am in dilemma that the same bike will be sold to ppl after enabling the speedo. The bike is nice. I braked hard @60km in a wet road with abs on [it rained so nicely today afternoon]. the bike didn't fishtail even an inch. the braking test inspired confidence. there is no waiting, so planning to go get the bike tomorrow...The price quoted is 92.4K.

If you're fine with spending that amount on ABS rather than going for P220, then its the best Indian bike you would ever get for that price. THat TD bike's been there for quite a while and is badly ripped! I've done a TD on it, ABS is pretty effective. In my case I tried it on gravel/tarmac surface but the engine was v harsh. I dont think they would sell it.

However, when u're buying it, you can go to their warehouse and choose he bike yourself! That's how Me and another of my friend chose our beasts as well.

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