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  • Contemplating TVS Apache RTR160

    Hello xBhpians!

    I'm looking for a 150cc bike within a budget of 70k-72k INR on-road. I'll be driving about ~25 km daily within Pune city (traffic here is insane). This bike will be driven mostly within city limits and once in a while on the nearby highways.

    This'll be my first 150cc bike. I was driving a 100cc bike till now.

    I test rode the Yamaha FZ (felt under-powered), Honda CB Unicorn (commuter bike, no fun), Honda Unicorn Dazzler (driving friend's bike since a year, so need a change) & TVS Apache RTR160. Not interested in Pulsar & HH Hunk.

    I was completely blown away by the performance of RTR160 and thus, I've decided to buy one!

    Some doubts:

    1) What mileage can I expect on the RTR160 with smooth city driving and occasional ripping? Sales rep. repeatedly claimed that I'll get around 47-48 kmpl. I'd like to hear from current RTR160 owners.

    2) Vibrations: Although I didn't feel any vibes @ 70-80 kmph, most of the RTR160/RTR180 owners are claiming that vibes exist. I've also heard that vibes have been damped in the latest version. I have no idea. Can anyone please shed some light on this?

    3) TVS Tyres: On dry road, I didn't experience any skidding on flat surface/sharp turns/cornering. I have no idea about wet roads. Most of the people have claimed that TVS Tyres on the Apache suck (especially the rear tyre). Does this skidding-on-wet-surfaces issue really exist?
    If I experience skidding on wet surfaces, I'll change both tyres to MRF Zappers (tubeless). How much will these Zappers cost each?

    4) To go for rear disc brake or not is the question!

    Originally posted by http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/art-safe-riding/10780-braking.html
    The rewards of using the rear brake are minimal and the risks associated are insane. If you want that ounce of more braking power you have to use the rear brake. That ounce is what I chose to ignore.
    Most of my driving will be within city limits & I never brake suddenly unless in an emergency. So, should I stick to rear drum brakes or opt for rear disc brakes?

    I'd really appreciate if you guys could help this biking newbie out!
    Apache RTR 160 RD

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    • #3
      1. RTR owners can comment better about mileage.
      2. vibrations are there, and will be present not only in apache, but almost all indian bikes.
      3. yes, TVS tyres are hard compound tyres. not good for wet roads or heavy braking on dry roads. MRF zappers will cost around Rs. 4000.00/= for both tyres.
      4. no need of rear disk brakes, drum brakes with disk in front is quite sufficient.
      i would suggest wait for a few months, you can check out new range of pulsars.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
        vibrations are there, and will be present not only in apache, but almost all indian bikes.
        TBH, I didn't feel much vibes. Maybe the fun quotient overpowered my sense of feeling vibes.

        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
        TVS tyres are hard compound tyres. not good for wet roads or heavy braking on dry roads.
        Damn, that doesn't sound good. I guess I'll have to change to Zappers if I experience any skidding.

        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
        no need of rear disk brakes, drum brakes with disk in front is quite sufficient.i would suggest wait for a few months, you can check out new range of pulsars.
        Ya, even I was thinking about skipping the rear disc. I don't want the rear wheel to lock up due to accidental/unintentional rear disc braking. I found the rear drum brake to be sufficient enough during my test ride. TBH, Pulsars have always failed to impress me. Also, I need to buy a 150cc bike ASAP.

        RTR owners please comment!
        Apache RTR 160 RD

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        • #5
          If you are worried about the rear disks, go for the A180.
          Vibes are present on a lot of other bikes.
          Check with a couple of showrooms, some of them offer to replace the TVS tyres with MRF ones with a little additional cost.
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          • #6
            1> Milage is above 45 kmpl for 160 hyper edge(with average ripping). you can get near 50 kmpl,if you ride it without fun(which will never happen).
            the 160 FI delivers near around 50 kmpl.
            2> Vibration do exist in new Hyper edge too.as you said,u didnt notice the vibrations,so that is not going to be a problem for you adjusting to the vibes.
            3> TVS tyres are bad...but,ride them for 10k kms(just be a little careful on wet roads)...then change the rear tire.
            4> Disk brakes are always safe bet....so it would be better if you get rear disk.but if you are not that much of a speed junkie,then drums can do the duty alright...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Guru_DTSi View Post
              If you are worried about the rear disks, go for the A180.
              I'll inquire about 180 today itself.

              Originally posted by Guru_DTSi View Post
              Check with a couple of showrooms, some of them offer to replace the TVS tyres with MRF ones with a little additional cost.
              Interesting. I'll inquire about this.

              Originally posted by sambit View Post
              1> Milage is above 45 kmpl for 160 hyper edge(with average ripping). you can get near 50 kmpl,if you ride it without fun(which will never happen).
              the 160 FI delivers near around 50 kmpl.
              So true! What's the use of buying a RTR then?!
              Thanks for confirming FE.


              Originally posted by sambit View Post
              2> Vibration do exist in new Hyper edge too.as you said,u didnt notice the vibrations,so that is not going to be a problem for you adjusting to the vibes.
              Yup, surprisingly I didn't feel any vibes. I'll take a test ride today (again) just to make sure.

              Originally posted by sambit View Post
              TVS tyres are bad...but,ride them for 10k kms(just be a little careful on wet roads)...then change the rear tire.
              Be it dry or wet roads - I always drive carefully. I think I'll use the stock tyres for now and change them as and when required. I'm no stuntman, so I guess this tyre issue won't be a big problem for me.


              Originally posted by sambit View Post
              4> Disk brakes are always safe bet....so it would be better if you get rear disk.but if you are not that much of a speed junkie,then drums can do the duty alright...
              Yep, I can get the rear disc for 2k extra. I think I'll get them.

              Another bike that is still in my consideration is the Yamaha FZ. But, it might turn out to be a white elephant (for me)!
              Apache RTR 160 RD

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              • #8
                So true! What's the use of buying a RTR then?!
                Thanks for confirming FE.

                rip any other bike to that extent, u will always get less milage than RTR.
                Even RTR 180 gives around 42 kmpl.
                Yes you can go for FZ its a good bike,though not as powerful as the RTR,but it will do the job well...but if you are concern about milage,then it will dissapoint even more.it gives under 40 kmpl on average ripping.you have to compromise on Power and Millage for the brilliant looks FZ has got...
                and yes,do consider RTR 180 as well,it costs same as FZ...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iChaitanya View Post


                  Be it dry or wet roads - I always drive carefully. I think I'll use the stock tyres for now and change them as and when required. I'm no stuntman, so I guess this tyre issue won't be a big problem for me.

                  Well,the set of tires TVS provides are actually best for stunt men...
                  and FYI, I have rode on stock tires for 26k kms before changing it(though I faced two scary incidents,but I came to know,how to use TVS tires) ...
                  HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                  • #10
                    Hi sambit & others!
                    Thanks for your inputs!

                    I just booked a RTR160 as RTR180 would have been an overkill for me - don't really need/require the extra power + slightly lower mileage.

                    I also decided to drop the rear disk as even the sales rep. advised me against it. He said that the rear drum will be enough for my style of driving (mostly within Pune city limits where average vehicle speed is quite low).

                    I'll change the rear tyre if and when needed.

                    So, that's it!
                    Apache RTR 160 RD

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                    • #11
                      Congrats dude..... ride safe....
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                      • #12
                        congrats!! is this your 1st bike? if no please tell me ur experiences transitioning to the new bike, i'm probably buying the A180 (had a suzuki fiero).

                        Did you book the hyper-edge or FI?
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                        • #13
                          I was driving my Splendor+ and friend's Unicorn Dazzler till now. So, this isn't my first bike. But ya, this is my first 150+ cc bike!

                          I booked the Hyper-Edge rear drum model. FI is complicated stuff and the local mechanics won't be able to fix it, if it breaks down. I say, avoid FI.

                          If you're planning to go for the A180, opt for the ABS model if your budget permits. Impressive stuff!
                          Last edited by iChaitanya; 07-18-2011, 04:35 PM.
                          Apache RTR 160 RD

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                          • #14
                            Ah!! ok. I went for the test drive of A180 - impressed with the initial acceleration. The A180 is almost 11k more than the non-ABS but will try hard for it
                            As far as the vibes are concerned i actually like them, makes me aware of the speed i'm at
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sandysend View Post
                              As far as the vibes are concerned i actually like them, makes me aware of the speed i'm at
                              Same here.

                              I don't understand why so many people rant about it.
                              Apache RTR 160 RD

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