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    Hi I am Bangalore based guy who is looking at my third motorcycle and am looking at buying a 4 stroke machine for my daily commuting needs and a little more. Basically I am looking for an all rounder - that excels in saving my money on petrol and does everything else too - a good all round commuter . My budget is inside the 1 lac bracket. My needs are as follows :

    Excellent Milage
    Reliability
    Excellent Build Quality
    Good handling
    Sturdy Chassis
    Strong suspension
    Simple Machine
    Easy to maintain
    No problem with spares

    thats the list . please come out with your suggestions and tell me why you think they would be the best .

    Thank you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vampire View Post
      Hi I am Bangalore based guy who is looking at my third motorcycle and am looking at buying a 4 stroke machine for my daily commuting needs and a little more. Basically I am looking for an all rounder - that excels in saving my money on petrol and does everything else too - a good all round commuter . My budget is inside the 1 lac bracket. My needs are as follows :

      Excellent Milage : Discover 100
      Reliability : Any Bike
      Excellent Build Quality : Suzuki > Honda > Yamaha
      Good handling : Any Bike
      Sturdy Chassis : Again, Any Bike
      Strong suspension : ???
      Simple Machine : ???
      Easy to maintain : ???
      No problem with spares : Stay away from Suzuki/Honda/Herohonda atleast for this.

      thats the list . please come out with your suggestions and tell me why you think they would be the best .

      Thank you.
      Answers in Bold. Dude, you seem to want an allrounder bike. In that case, you need to go for the 125cc (D125,Shine,Stunner,Slingshot) or the commuter 150 segment (D150,SZ)
      You can probably check out the Stunner or the SZ-R.
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      • #4
        Sir you need not go for a 1 lac budget. Actually your criteria is a bit confusing. You have a large budget and you are aking for excellent mileage. A specified mileage bracket will help us suggesting you a bike.

        If you are asking for a good commuter with great mileage, good handling, good bulid and reliability, I would suggest you to take a look at the Honda Twister(110cc). If you want a bigger bike(say 125-150cc) you will have to sacrifice on the mileage part(150cc-45-55kmpl and 125cc-50-60kmpl). Whereas 100ccs will be more efficient.

        Pls be a little more specific so that people around can give you a good bunch of options.
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        • #5
          Yamaha SZr /Dicvover 150(both are perfect commuters)
          Yamaha-less milage(around 50kmpl),more performance,good looks / Discover-more milage(>55kmpl), less performance,average looks.
          HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vampire View Post
            Hi I am Bangalore based guy who is looking at my third motorcycle and am looking at buying a 4 stroke machine for my daily commuting needs and a little more. Basically I am looking for an all rounder - that excels in saving my money on petrol and does everything else too - a good all round commuter . My budget is inside the 1 lac bracket. My needs are as follows :

            Excellent Milage
            Reliability
            Excellent Build Quality
            Good handling
            Sturdy Chassis
            Strong suspension
            Simple Machine
            Easy to maintain
            No problem with spares

            thats the list . please come out with your suggestions and tell me why you think they would be the best .

            Thank you.
            If you can leave the first point and ok with 40ish mileage the rest of of the points will be over satisfied by FZ16..and you can go for the new cbz extreme also.
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            • #7
              The Honda unicorn is one bike which will tick all expectations but tell us what are the other two vehicles you posses now will help us now your kinda usage

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              • #8
                Originally posted by raja_roadster View Post
                The Honda unicorn is one bike which will tick all expectations but tell us what are the other two vehicles you posses now will help us now your kinda usage
                +1. Honda Unicorn. If not 150cc then it is Honda Shine.

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                • #9
                  hi guys thank you for all your suggestions. i am sorry for not being specific and being quite confused myself. For now - i just want a machine to get me from point A to point B in the smoothest possible way. A scooter is not off the card either. My criteria is

                  Excellent Mileage
                  Good Build Quality
                  Good Low end Torque for city commuting
                  Any added utilities after meeting above said criteria would be a bonus.

                  I have decided to spent the least possible on this purchase if possible (used bike ?) because i hope on buying a bigger cc bike a little later - I really love the KTM baby Duke - just hope it turns out to be a 200cc torque bomb and i also hope there will be better ZMA like bikes here by year end too ( fingers and toes crossed ) . Looking at making the best possible decision. Thanks for the help guys, keep it coming.

                  @raja_roadster: Other 2 bikes are gas guzzling Yamaha 2 strokes.
                  Last edited by Vampire; 07-17-2011, 09:21 PM.

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                  • #10
                    One straight answer - There's no perfect bike be it Ducati or Discover. One need's to understand the pros & cons of any bike & live with it.

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                    • #11
                      Disclaimer-These are my suggestions and not statements.
                      The Honda CB Unicorn is the better option if you want a comfortable travel from point A to point B and here in Bangalore,the spares are readily available(At least,in my neighborhood!).The bike is efficient too and it is so silent that you will hear yourself speaking inside your head!
                      It has a reaaaaaaaaly long waiting period(speaks volumes about it's capability or Honda's lackadaisical approach to manufacturing or both!).
                      Remember,this is the perfect example of a bike that Honda is capable of engineering.
                      If you dislike the styling,then there's another understated bike from them,i.e the CB Unicorn Dazzler which is..........."Different"!
                      Then there's the Suzuki GS 150R,Hero Honda Hunk......and the rest.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vampire View Post
                        For now - i just want a machine to get me from point A to point B in the smoothest possible way. A scooter is not off the card either. My criteria is

                        Excellent Mileage
                        Good Build Quality
                        Good Low end Torque for city commuting
                        Any added utilities after meeting above said criteria would be a bonus.
                        My vote for The new HUNK or the CB Unicorn.

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                        • #13
                          Test ride these bikes,
                          GS150R
                          New CBZ Xtreme
                          New Hunk

                          and then decide..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Vampire View Post
                            For now - i just want a machine to get me from point A to point B in the smoothest possible way.
                            Only 1 bike fulfills this criteria perfectly: Honda CB Unicorn

                            If you pay a lump-sum amount via cash/DD/cheque/whatever, you can expect delivery in 2.5 months. That's what a local dealer told me.

                            If you can't wait that long then the Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler (50+ kmpl mileage) is also a good bike. You'll get Dazzler within a week!
                            Apache RTR 160 RD

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                            • #15
                              ok guys the consensus is that i will have to buy a brand new bike - and i haven't come across any 2nd hand well maintained 4 strokes that are for sale at a price im willing to pay for a used item as yet.

                              I liked the Honda Twister alot - but it works out to close to 60k for the top end version - and it really does not offer much - looks pretty fragile too , i have ridden one and it surprised me in a good way but im not gonna spent 60k on that and be happy for long. A few thousands more and I could have a much better bike.

                              I'm starting to lean towards the RTR series specifically the 160 - though i know i must change tyres - to R15s possibly ? Do you think the smaller RTR is upto the job ? FI or Carb ?

                              Engine reliability / spares availability / maintenance cost ? I really hope i dont go around modding my next acquisition - but the fact that I CAN do it with the RTR (if I want to) + the fact that I CAN hit the track with it (if i want to) while meeting my commuting needs ( hopefully ) is what is attracting me to TVS - am I right about this or am i wrong ? also what kind of realistic mileage can one expect of the RTR160, how often are service intervals and what are its quirks ? your inputs on this please.

                              About Honda: I love the Honda's brand image and all but honestly Im not a Honda guy , my brother recently cancelled his booking of a Honda scooter because of the bad PR experience with a sales rep. I dont think I would be willing to take attitude from someone who has my money AND wants an incredulously long waiting period only to ride a machine that has been here since donkeys years and is boring to boot.
                              Last edited by Vampire; 07-18-2011, 07:55 AM.

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