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My suggestion is to get new bike than investing in old bike and that too 40k which is substantially huge amount.

If invested in P220, you'll get latest technology, power and offcourse some peace of mind.

If invested in old bike, your joy will be short lived and would again start contemplating on buying new bike.

If your decision is going to wait Feb 2012, chances are that by that time you might find some new bikes in offer.

Thats the reason I am willing to wait till Feb 2012. So that I dont miss out on any new tech. You spoke my heart out.

I would also suggest you invest your money on new bike rather than going for a restoration of a pretty old bike.Atleast you will have a peace of mind owing a new bike

definately u should go for a new bike!
as ur zma is already 7 years old it might start getting issues and u'll have to change many of its parts.
with a new bike u'll get complete peace of mind (atleast for a few years )
and after maybe a couple of years u can get ur new bike joel'ed too

Well if a Joeled Karizma really gives more mileage than stock, then definitely keeping in view the petrol prices you can get your existing bike Joeled.
If an old bike had had such issues you would have never bought it Now that you have bought it, get it Joeled and enjoy!
Straight, simple and I think the cheapest solution(for a long period).

Regarding the parts, your engine, exhaust system will be completely new if you are going to Joel so no need to worry about having any issue with that atleast. And other parts are to be changed after a certaing interval(brake pads, air filters etc), be it new or used bike..

Being a hardcore P220 and since I own a ZMA I'd say that its better you go for a 3rd option.

But between P220 and ZMA.... I'd go for ZMA anyday i.e if it was a long term investment...
Else if I had a lot of cash and wont mind switching bikes frequently then P220 it is.

you better wait for few months........

This is what I would be doing. If I get to see some interesting bikes in Auto Expo 2012, then probably would wait or else go for P220


This was my thought behind getting myself a used bike. To spend on modifications. The only part I dont like about ZMA is unavailibility of parts & the same model. Its the same since its launch decades back!!!!!

No doubt, performance matters but looks as well do matter for me...now I am considering Fazer as well just becouse of its dual headlight.

If I would have cared for fuel average, rather I would have got a P135. So cost of fuel is not an issue.

Trying to revive an old thread.

I have a 4.5 yrs old ZMA, but used very rarely. Its just about to touch 18k kms now. I recently did a ride from Cochin to bangalore and realised that I could do with a wee bit more power and a higher cruising speed, something in the range of 120-130 kmph instead of the current 100-110 kmph.

I do not want to lose the current ZMA characteristics of refinement, less sound and good highway range.

Would the Joel kit for ZMA provide me the additional wants without sacrificing the already good qualities of the ZMA?

Could someone also please provide me his contact details.

Hi,

Mail Joel at [email protected]

Before you do intend to go for any mod it is wise to go through ownership pages and understand the nature.. The very important part is correct installation of the kits and the condition of the base engine. If the base engine is in good health then with correct installation there is no problem.

If you have time read the FZ18 thread and i hope it does give you some answers. There are already threads of some people who have done it in their respective ZMAs and you can probably check it out. Do bear in mind that the compression ratio of the stock and the souped up kit will be different. If the place you are living in has lower grade of fuel supplied, the souped up engine may knock. Not a major concern though, just adding an additional paper gasket at the lower part of the block will solve the problem. This is applicable to carbureted bikes only. new ECU bikes which have been tuned don't have this problem as the ECU retards the timing automatically to compensate for the lower grade of fuel.


Cheers,

I think the refinement would be lost !! i don't think investing 40k around on used bike for 10kmph+ justifies it !!

It's any day better to buy a new P220 wich does 120 instantly and goes close to 135kmph+ people quote 142kmph also.

Which is better P220 with latest tech like dual disc, oil cool, projector light, braoder tyres and power in 94k ?? or spend 40k on your 4 yr old bike and still you don't get the latest features etc!!

Why not sell your ZMA and add few money and get a CBR 250 on emi for 2 yrs ?? This solve your all isues with a bike to keep in for more 3-5 yrs with company back!!

think again before investing

As far as i am aware of RC kits for ZMA doesn't cost 40k unless one has to do serious rebuild of the engine because hard riding and the low maintenance and too much abuse that the engine has lost significant tolerance to extra power. Heck my power up kits for my ride doesn't cost that much!!

18, 000 kms is too little mileage clocked by the thread starter so i don't think there should any problem with his ride. If my hunch is correct his ride's engine internals will be good as new. However an inspection is recommended should the thread starter decide to opt for power up kits. The engine vibes don't increase but either remain the same or reduce unless one is going for an extreme build. One may experience higher FEs too due to higher compression and better outflow of gases. Rider Jonahmano has recently started his thread, i guess going through it should give the thread starter some ideas.

Secondly, the increase is not 10 kms/hr but higher and it is not about the top speed but the way it reaches there. Say a stock FZ will do 0-100 in 15-17 seconds. Souped one does it in 9 seconds flat or lesser if the rider weight is lesser so there is a significant difference! BTW top speed is limited by stock sprockets.. a change in that will either increase the top end or increase the quick acceleration figures.

Personally, if i were to upgrade from zma, my next bike would be a 45+ bhp ride.. may be upcoming hinted ktm Duke 390 or any other future launches. Till then i would advise the thread starter to hold on.

Cheers,

rightly said! But still there are few exceptions which leads the buyer to buy it now rather than wait....feeling !!!!