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**Noor** · 11-04-2011, 03:38 PM

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**shrek** · 11-04-2011, 03:56 PM

When I read the words, "touring" "comfy" "reliable" the first bike that comes to mind is the Karizma /R/ZMR. I should know, I had one for a while myself.

Really, the rest will not be as complete a package as the Karizma.

It matches and exceeds all your listed expectations, is within your budget, and you may only need to improve the stock lighting setup to make it a phenomenal tourer.

**Satyamzma** · 11-04-2011, 04:40 PM

Chose only between karizma & Bullets... They are meant to be touring bikes..

**Sarvajit** · 11-04-2011, 06:13 PM

CBR anyday, R15 will not do 120 do the way CBR does it.

**The Monk** · 11-04-2011, 06:29 PM

I have done 500-800 kms in varying conditions on multiple occasions in a day. I always ride at triple digit speeds. Mostly hovering around the 120 mark. No reliability issues ever. Out of the 22000kms my bike has done so far, 12000kms have been done on tours. Your requirements and my corresponding accomplishments -

1. Ridden Gurgaon-Kanpur 500kms in 6.25 hours without a break, without putting a foot down

2. I am just 24. So comfort is sufficient for me.
3. No ability to do 120-140, but easily possible to do 100-130kmph all day.
4. 2 years 22000 kms and no issues whatsoever.
5. city mileage of 40kmpl and highway mileage of 33kmpl on an average.

You got lots of time on your hands to make a good choice. Choose well.

All the best...

**Cyber Don** · 11-04-2011, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Noor View Post

Thread approved

thank you

Originally posted by shrek View Post

When I read the words, "touring" "comfy" "reliable" the first bike that comes to mind is the Karizma /R/ZMR. I should know, I had one for a while myself.

Really, the rest will not be as complete a package as the Karizma.

It matches and exceeds all your listed expectations, is within your budget, and you may only need to improve the stock lighting setup to make it a phenomenal tourer.

thanks for your input mate, but somehow.. i dont like karizma.. i dont know why..

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

Chose only between karizma & Bullets... They are meant to be touring bikes..

still undecided!

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

CBR anyday, R15 will not do 120 do the way CBR does it.

CBR scores... but it doesnt catch my eye.. R15 did..

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

I have done 500-800 kms in varying conditions on multiple occasions in a day. I always ride at triple digit speeds. Mostly hovering around the 120 mark. No reliability issues ever. Out of the 22000kms my bike has done so far, 12000kms have been done on tours. Your requirements and my corresponding accomplishments -

1. Ridden Gurgaon-Kanpur 500kms in 6.25 hours without a break, without putting a foot down

2. I am just 24. So comfort is sufficient for me.
3. No ability to do 120-140, but easily possible to do 100-130kmph all day.
4. 2 years 22000 kms and no issues whatsoever.
5. city mileage of 40kmpl and highway mileage of 33kmpl on an average.

You got lots of time on your hands to make a good choice. Choose well.

All the best...

thanks man! the P220 seems to be the best deal so far..

if it can cruise at 120, i will be more than happy.

I'm planning to take a test drive sometime soon, will probably get some friend's ride and will test it out

**Blumarine005** · 11-04-2011, 11:21 PM

My suggestions since I own a ZMA...its good at 80 - 90...feels a little stressed around 110(mine is 7 yrs old bike)...CBR is a good option but costly...P220 with projector headlights is VFM for nigt riding.

**The Monk** · 11-05-2011, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Cyber Don View Post

thank you

thanks man! the P220 seems to be the best deal so far..

if it can cruise at 120, i will be more than happy.

I'm planning to take a test drive sometime soon, will probably get some friend's ride and will test it out

Well let me also point out that there are many minor niggles with the 220. Some of those problems can be easily sorted out with a few quick remedies, others you will have to learn to live with. If you get a friends bike ride it on the highway for 40-50kms at a go, so that you get a good idea of how she behaves.
If you do like the 220, then I would suggest buying the new pulsar, whenever it is launched. Which should not be a problem for you since in anycase you are planning to wait till jan.

**abhijitkn** · 11-05-2011, 01:49 PM

If possible wait till auto expo..

**111diablo111** · 11-05-2011, 03:21 PM

CBR250R would be the best option for you followed by ZMR..ZMA..P220 respectively

Avenger & Bullets are good for touring as well but cruising speeds & reliability aren't as good as other competitors..

CBR250R might not be as catching as R15V2.0(though its a subjective point) but your main requirement is touring so you can put looks of a bike secondary..choose wisely..

**Blumarine005** · 11-05-2011, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post

If possible wait till auto expo..

This is the same what I am planning to do before zeroing on P220...but I got to know that P220 in pure ble & red are not being manufactured anymore. Though the black one is still available on a waiting period of 15 days.

Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post

CBR250R would be the best option for you followed by ZMR..ZMA..P220 respectively

Avenger & Bullets are good for touring as well but cruising speeds & reliability aren't as good as other competitors..

CBR250R might not be as catching as R15V2.0(though its a subjective point) but your main requirement is touring so you can put looks of a bike secondary..choose wisely..

Good summarized comments...I likes it....

Also are the speculations that yamaha might launch a 250cc machine...worth the wait.

**Cyber Don** · 11-05-2011, 10:43 PM

thanks for the replies guys! i might actually wait till auto expo

I still like the bullets, i havent decided yet

**siddharth_ZMR** · 11-05-2011, 11:43 PM

apparently you have already decided on P220... go for it if you love it so much... you wont regret your decision...

and yes if done please close the thread... coz from the first post its only P220 so just wait for the expo and go for it...

and yamaha 250... rumour.. rumour.... also i dont think it would be anywhere near 1.5 lacs...

cheers

**abhijitkn** · 11-06-2011, 11:32 AM

^yeap...do not expect Yamaha 250cc soon...but still I have high hopes on Auto expo 2012

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