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    Total Confusion : 200NS or CBR400r or 220F

    Hi.. i currently own a 220fi which has been giving me headaches recently with unrelaibility. Planning to change.

    I have liberty of buying new bike and am unable to choose which.

    200NS: an amazing bike. Doesnt feel its from bajaj at all. Being carb, I am much inclined towards it.

    220F: Old tech. great tourer and good topend.

    CBR400R: Have got a few deals for these bikes. but they are old, atleast a decade old they are. Papers are incomplete. Feels great but I am worried for spares. Also I dont know the price range I should buy them for.

    I am planning for a loan. will I get loan for the old CBR400s?
    Please help me choose on what to buy?

    I can wait for 1 month max. for new launches. would that help as I heard prices of the NS was raised.
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    Query approved.

    Similar topic also exists

    220f or should i wait for the 200ns ?? - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
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    • #3
      The CBR400s ought to be disqualified right away. Buying an import without papers makes no sense these days. Between the other two bikes, it comes down to your prioirities.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
        Hi.. i currently own a 220fi which has been giving me headaches recently with unrelaibility. Planning to change.

        I have liberty of buying new bike and am unable to choose which.

        200NS: an amazing bike. Doesnt feel its from bajaj at all. Being carb, I am much inclined towards it.

        220F: Old tech. great tourer and good topend.

        CBR400R: Have got a few deals for these bikes. but they are old, atleast a decade old they are. Papers are incomplete. Feels great but I am worried for spares. Also I dont know the price range I should buy them for.
        Don't make sense going for P220F as you already owned a P220Fi, NS is an ugrade but not a major difference in feel. Still....

        Till here i feel 200NS is right choice or go for CBR when you can opt for CBR400r

        CBR400r 10yrs old will be approx 2L not less than that! you can get the parts through online shipments but they are costly! why to be in those tension days after buying??

        Go with CBR 250r and enjoy!!

        Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
        I am planning for a loan. will I get loan for the old CBR400s?
        Please help me choose on what to buy?
        I can wait for 1 month max. for new launches. would that help as I heard prices of the NS was raised.
        You can't get a bike loan on second hand at least, or it has to be with in 5yrs ol
        200NS is VFM, but when you target CBR400r then why not a N250r or CBR250 ??

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        • #5
          If I were you there's no confusion at all!!!

          I would rule out CBR 400R as its not available; that leaves 220F & 200Ns

          I would rule out 220F because there's better & updated product available from the same manufacturer

          Ultimately the choice is 200NS. Confusion resolved. PERIOD!!!

          PS - If you define the purpose, may be we can sort out something even better

          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
          Go with CBR 250r and enjoy!!
          Somen...lol you made my evening (no sarcasm, no offense, I really enjoyed your post; I couldn't even think in those lines by the the TS's question was put)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            Hi.. i currently own a 220fi which has been giving me headaches recently with unrelaibility. Planning to change.
            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            CBR400R: Have got a few deals for these bikes. but they are old, atleast a decade old they are. Papers are incomplete. Feels great but I am worried for spares. Also I dont know the price range I should buy them for.
            Stay away from an import which doesn't have its papers in place. Period.


            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            220F: Old tech. great tourer and good topend.
            As you have already owned the P220 DTS-Fi, no point going for virtually the same bike once again. The things that go for this bike is the awesome projector set up and slightly more torque at low revs.


            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
            200NS: an amazing bike. Doesnt feel its from bajaj at all. Being carb, I am much inclined towards it.
            Exactly, the 200NS feels poles apart from every other Pulsar. Even if there won't be a significant difference in the top end between the P220F and P200NS, the overall riding experience of the 200NS is so much more satisfying.

            And its just about 5 grand more than the P220F..!!



            My Pick: P200NS hands down

            P.S: I too had my P220 DTS-Fi for 4 years and have decided to get the P200NS as my next bike.


            Last edited by payeng; 07-17-2012, 05:58 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by payeng View Post
              My Pick: P200NS hands down

              P.S: I too had my P220 DTS-Fi for 4 years and have decided to get the P200NS as my next bike.

              Believe me.. when Payeng says this.. I for one can vouch for him that he's saying this all earnesty. He's sailing in the same boat as you Somen, so his suggestion is seriously to look forward to.

              My suggestion is the same : Stay away from gray imports and P200NS that you would love to have
              Twist your wrist and feel the shift!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by aargee View Post
                Ultimately the choice is 200NS. Confusion resolved. PERIOD!!!

                PS - If you define the purpose, may be we can sort out something even better
                Exactly. my choice was the 200NS till a frnd asked me to get CBR400.


                My requirement is oughtright touring. Will only be riding on highways and occasional commuting (once in a month i commute)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Somen...lol you made my evening (no sarcasm, no offense, I really enjoyed your post; I couldn't even think in those lines by the the TS's question was put)
                  I was little skeptical that if a person is ready to buy a CBR400r 10yrs old , which would come in range of 1.5-2.5L, additonally sparts issue, so why not a CBR 250?? NS200 would be very similar to P220Fi, so anyways it's out of league!!

                  New bike with all facilities available!!

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                  • #10
                    utsavchs - I'm going to be very blunt with choices, so as to find out IF we can find something more suitable (not better, only suitable) & closer to your needs. Keeping P200NS aside for now, let's explore other possibilities & if you knock of every others in the list, goahead with P220NS, that's made for you

                    Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                    My requirement is oughtright touring
                    Touring...basic good to have features are...
                    - Long range (ZMA/ZMR, Pulsar 180/220, Duke 200)
                    - Comfort (ZMA/ZMR, C5, Duke 200)

                    Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                    Will only be riding on highways and occasional commuting (once in a month i commute)
                    Ok...so it will be more of highway motorcycle & occasional ride for commuting. Then the choices are even simple - New CBR 250R, New or Used Ninja 250R

                    Not suggesting GT250R because its pretty new in the market; Ninja 650R needs to be refueled every 200 Km & let's not get there now.

                    Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                    I was little skeptical...all facilities available!!
                    Not sure if he loves forward leaning posture; I've suggested a few above incl of CBR 250R, let's see how it goes.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aargee View Post
                      Touring...basic good to have features are...
                      - Long range (ZMA/ZMR, Pulsar 180/220, Duke 200)
                      - Comfort (ZMA/ZMR, C5, Duke 200)
                      Ok...so it will be more of highway motorcycle & occasional ride for commuting. Then the choices are even simple - New CBR 250R, New or Used Ninja 250R
                      People have quoted that Duke's back positioned gear/brake pedals causes little uncomfortability on long tours!! But now a days Duke is fliying all over! It can be due to favourism, even people tour on R15, just because they love R15, But surely Duke or R15 is not for touring.And duke has hard seat which makes it very comfortable on long rides!!

                      Yes CBR 250/C5 absolutely!
                      But again i think on Ninja?? i don't think that's comfortable over touring?? Ninja has the center line seating position between R15 and CBR! We lean a bit more than a CBR!!

                      Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                      Exactly. my choice was the 200NS till a frnd asked me to get CBR400.
                      My requirement is oughtright touring. Will only be riding on highways and occasional commuting (once in a month i commute)
                      If you need real comfortable ride while touring with a smile all time, then TBTS only!! And if you are insecure with CBR or R15 or Duke overtaking you anytime any moment?? then CBR the mighty ride.

                      Which has FI/Liquid cool/Broader tyres/ABS/Re-sale/ trusted brand name/ high torque/High Speed of 145+ anytime....just for 2.09L /-only or with out ABS 1.65L/- Only

                      CBR is more safe on high speed on highways, where as Duke or Ns won't! You can't flick it over as Duke or R15 on cities!! (i think this is not your purpose at all)

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                      • #12
                        Just booked the 200NS. Will get it in sept. as I would be outta town till then.

                        <3 it!

                        Thanks guys!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          People have quoted that Duke's back positioned gear/brake pedals causes little uncomfortability on long tours!!
                          I'm assuming it due to the backward/sporty leg position but straight upper body

                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          R15 is not for touring.And duke has hard seat which makes it very comfortable on long rides!!
                          But I love that stance now very much; I infact wish CBR were more forward leaning for the weight to be distributed to elbows (all fwd leaning motorcycles)rather than straight upright

                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          But again i think on Ninja?? i don't...R15 and CBR! We lean a bit more than a CBR!!
                          No no, I found C250R & N250R more on similar lines; I seldom found difference with N250R's riding stance.

                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          CBR is more safe on high speed on highways, where as Duke or Ns won't! You can't flick it over as Duke or R15 on cities!! (i think this is not your purpose at all)
                          Add to that, the fairing plays a very important role on high speed riding & cross winds; and on the other hand, during offroads, CBR's suspensions are pure bliss. Somehow I wish, the bl*** HMSI could've made an uniform engine both in India as well as abroad just like D200

                          Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                          Just booked the 200NS. Will get it in sept. as I would be outta town till then
                          Good; congrats
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aargee View Post
                            No no, I found C250R & N250R more on similar lines; I seldom found difference with N250R's riding stance.
                            Don't know why i feel the difference on my frineds bike!! But nice to hear that N250 and CBR has same positions!!

                            Originally posted by utsavchs View Post
                            Just booked the 200NS. Will get it in sept. as I would be outta town till then.

                            <3 it!

                            Thanks guys!
                            Congrats!! do post a pic!! and delaer exp!!

                            But i have small doubt, you where ready for CBR400r second hand, but if only power and speed and feel is taken into consideration than NS200 is no where to CNR400r!

                            I am just curious when a person is thinking for Sports model and such high speed and torque, then how can he be happy with NS200 ?? not even a CBR 250 ??
                            Last edited by Guest; 07-18-2012, 12:55 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I had got some deals of CB400 fours 2008 model.. a vfr400 of 199x cbr400's 2 decade olds. All deals were under 4L hence was planning. But without proper papers the imports dont feel safey.

                              CBR250 is just a bigger 220. Its been a long time I remained power hungry, lets concentrate on the ride quality for some time. :-P

                              Anyways, having a plan to upgrade in a year or two to some biggie. Might as well till then save some cash (thanks to the mileage of the NS) and enjoy the smooth power delivery of the NS till then.
                              ....Riding the Indian Monster : 200NS....
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                              Total Kms Covered: 42,723 (CT100) + 11 (ZMR) +78,221 (Platina) + 26,913 (RTR) + 54,117 (P220) + 2,73,142 (200NS) = 4,75,127 Kms. . . . . . . . .and counting . . . . .
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