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  • 150cc!!! Yamaha FZS vs Hero CBZ Xtreme

    Hello Guys new to this forum here i am really confused about buying among these two bikes i heard people saying that new FZS gives around 45-50kmpl is it true?? and i am not interested in CBZ xtreme but family and friends are forcing me to buy this bike due to its resale value(i dont know if this is true) and mileage.I asked Hero dealer and he said that CBZ will give around 45kmpl but two of my friends who own this bike say they get around 50-55kmpl.If there is no much difference in mileage then i will buy FZS.

    i am a sensible rider not interested in much rash riding but i need a good ride i like the way FZS goes than CBZ but people are recommending me to buy CBZ what should i do???

    i don't have any objections towards CBZ but don't know much about this bike that's all
    Thank You!

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    • #3
      I would go for the FZS if i were you and i am pretty sure it will give 40+km/lt...my Xtreme bore gone kaput in 35K kms...now running on new bore kit returning 50km/lt...sibun Xtreme is giving him 55-60km/lt...i dont think xtreme has better resale value i was offered just 18K-24K max for my Xtreme few months back.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by indianhits View Post
        Hello Guys new to this forum here i am really confused about buying among these two bikes i heard people saying that new FZS gives around 45-50kmpl is it true?? and i am not interested in CBZ xtreme but family and friends are forcing me to buy this bike due to its resale value(i dont know if this is true) and mileage.I asked Hero dealer and he said that CBZ will give around 45kmpl but two of my friends who own this bike say they get around 50-55kmpl.If there is no much difference in mileage then i will buy FZS.

        i am a sensible rider not interested in much rash riding but i need a good ride i like the way FZS goes than CBZ but people are recommending me to buy CBZ what should i do???

        i don't have any objections towards CBZ but don't know much about this bike that's all
        Thank You!

        Any given day riding and handling is far better in FZ over CBZ.

        FZ is a true city/Street bike fund to ride absolutely.

        Yes new FZ gives an average of 45+kmpl.

        But FZ lacks rear Disc brake and top end torque. Post 108-110kmph FZ will slag to reach top speed!!

        If you need better top end and rear disc brake then CBZ else FZ. Once TD and see.

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        • #5
          Comfort wise, FZ is a lot better than CBZ.

          Also FZ has those big rear tires which give a good grip, and it handles pretty well.

          Regarding the FE, many of my friends here say it gives around 40 ~ 45 in city and higher on the highways.

          I would personally pick the FZ over CBZ. But if you are not sure, TD to see it for yourself.

          Note: According to a recent report, my locality has the highest registrations of FZs and R15s. If you were here, you would see a brand new FZ parked literally at every house.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
            Yes new FZ gives an average of 45+kmpl.
            I am sorry but could you please quote the source of this info? You have been writing this particular line on many many occasions now. Unless you yourself are a 'New FZ' owner, please refrain from making any comments about improved FE from FZ. If you are not 100% sure about this info, I suggest that you leave it for the XBHPians who actually own FZ to comment instead of potentially misleading the TS.

            @indianhits: I happen to have toured with people on FZs which never returned anything above 35kmpl. Going to as low as 22-23kmpl on the Highways while riding along with other 150cc bikes.

            As per the ownership thread, the Yamaha SZ-R/SZ-X also has the same 153cc block from the FZ/Fazer, tuned for better FE. But even on that bike, 52% xBHPians owning the SZ get an FE of 45kmpl or less whereas 77% SZ owners get an FE of 50kmpl or less.

            Make an informed decision. Pick the FZ if you don't care if it returns 35kmpl. Any more expectations will leave you disappointed. You can always feel *happy* if you get 45.
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            Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
              I am sorry but could you please quote the source of this info? You have been writing this particular line on many many occasions now. Unless you yourself are a 'New FZ' owner, please refrain from making any comments about improved FE from FZ. If you are not 100% sure about this info, I suggest that you leave it for the XBHPians who actually own FZ to comment instead of potentially misleading the TS.
              If you say FZ is impotent to give better kmpl then it's shocking that you are against Yamaha or FZ!! in other hand no hope to rider getting a good average i.e misleading...

              I think riding skills has to be improved Antz, if you get poor kmpls!!!

              Why don't you self ride it for almost 1-2 months and share the kmpl of FZ. (It's true that many have been quoting this figure by i know people who are quoting 40kmpl+ also)

              I am quoting on basis of my friends FZ which i rode for 2 months daily and i use to get 40kmpl+/-

              Check this what a new owner has to say :
              And i guess this section is under your supervision:



              I don't blindly quote!!

              Infact a good bike is indeed a good bike. If any FZ owners don't get good kmpl then i would say they have to improve or there must be some issues with bike!!

              Note i never saw any FZ rider riding it calmly they always Zip Zap arounf traffic overtaking etc!!

              I have encounter many FZ riders racinf against my R15 too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                If you say FZ is impotent to give better kmpl then it's shocking that you are against Yamaha or FZ!! in other hand no hope to rider getting a good average i.e misleading...
                Telling the truth <> Being against a particular bike. The sooner you understand this, the better for you. Do you want phone no.s of the people whose bike mileage I was quoting?

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                I think riding skills has to be improved Antz, if you get poor kmpls!!!
                Totally. But then if you want to ride FZ ike splendor, why not get Splendor itself and get much better FE and save $$$ everywhere?

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                Why don't you self ride it for almost 1-2 months and share the kmpl of FZ. (It's true that many have been quoting this figure by i know people who are quoting 40kmpl+ also)
                Are you willing to lend me yours? Oh! You don't own one! Do you?

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                I am quoting on basis of my friends FZ which i rode for 2 months daily and i use to get 40kmpl+/-
                Still you are wrongfully claiming 45+ even though your friends manage only 40kmpl+/- (dfference of 12.5+%)

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                Check this what a new owner has to say :
                And i guess this section is under your supervision:



                I don't blindly quote!!
                But I guess you were blind enough to post this even after knowing that the FZ in quesition is still in Run-In.

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                Infact a good bike is indeed a good bike. If any FZ owners don't get good kmpl then i would say they have to improve or there must be some issues with bike!!
                All FZ owners I personally know never even get 40kmpl consistently. Does this mean the entire batch of FZs sold prior to this 'New FZ' were faulty or did ALL of them had a faulty riding technique?

                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                Note i never saw any FZ rider riding it calmly they always Zip Zap arounf traffic overtaking etc!!

                I have encounter many FZ riders racinf against my R15 too.
                Well that just shows the immaturity of the FZ owners living/commuting in your vicinity. Still, conclusively proves nothing.

                A bike can only be good at so many things. The FZ is an excellent handler and has the best brakes south of 1 lac. It has a silken smooth engine and extremely good midrange for city usage. And I do acknowledge this. But I guess the owners will also agree with me that Highways and FE are not areas the FZ excels in compared to its 150cc Air-cooled competition.

                Coming back to the topic at hand, @indianhits: The Extreme will most certainly return a better kmpl figure than the FZ. But this doesn't mean that thats the one I recommend. The merits of an FZ are too hard to ignore even though it comes with a slight kmpl disadvantage (as discussed above). Since none of these bikes is actually a *flop*, resale should be comparable. And if you intend to keep the bike for a long period, it doesn't matter anyways. If however you will be only using the bike for 1-1.5 years, I would recommend you to buy either a Used bike or a Splendor. Nothing else holds resale like those 2 options.
                Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                • #9
                  if an FZ returns you an FE of 40kmpl constantly then consider yourself lucky..this i am talking on behalf of my experience with 2011 batch of FZ..may be 2012 batch of FZ is more fuel efficient but still 45+kmpl sounds surreal..
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                    Telling the truth <> Being against a particular bike. The sooner you understand this, the better for you. Do you want phone no.s of the people whose bike mileage I was quoting?
                    Totally. But then if you want to ride FZ ike splendor, why not get Splendor itself and get much better FE and save $$$ everywhere?
                    Are you willing to lend me yours? Oh! You don't own one! Do you?
                    Still you are wrongfully claiming 45+ even though your friends manage only 40kmpl+/- (dfference of 12.5+%)
                    But I guess you were blind enough to post this even after knowing that the FZ in quesition is still in Run-In.
                    All FZ owners I personally know never even get 40kmpl consistently. Does this mean the entire batch of FZs sold prior to this 'New FZ' were faulty or did ALL of them had a faulty riding technique?
                    Well that just shows the immaturity of the FZ owners living/commuting in your vicinity. Still, conclusively proves nothing.
                    A bike can only be good at so many things. The FZ is an excellent handler and has the best brakes south of 1 lac. It has a silken smooth engine and extremely good midrange for city usage. And I do acknowledge this. But I guess the owners will also agree with me that Highways and FE are not areas the FZ excels in compared to its 150cc Air-cooled competition.
                    ^^^^
                    Off topic !! For sure!!

                    I don't need any numbers for clarification, becuase i myself kept the bike for 2 months and rode it well 40kms dailt for approx 45 days in 2 months.

                    And there is a huge difference between "getting consisntently" and "not getting at all".

                    There are both type of claims in all.
                    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                    Coming back to the topic at hand, @indianhits: The Extreme will most certainly return a better kmpl figure than the FZ. But this doesn't mean that thats the one I recommend. The merits of an FZ are too hard to ignore even though it comes with a slight kmpl disadvantage (as discussed above). Since none of these bikes is actually a *flop*, resale should be comparable. And if you intend to keep the bike for a long period, it doesn't matter anyways. If however you will be only using the bike for 1-1.5 years, I would recommend you to buy either a Used bike or a Splendor. Nothing else holds resale like those 2 options.
                    Absolutely correct !!

                    @Indianhits:

                    If you think for Kmpls then got with CBZ and if not then FZ. But CBZ has one more advantage that it comes with Dual Disc option!!! which will help you in panic braking or speed control more better than a drum brakes any given day!!

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the reply guys and sorry for creating a flame over here
                      so i guess Both of these bikes will give similar resale value.
                      i ride to my office everyday about 9.7KM(no - less traffic jams) so if it can give me 2 days of ride then i will be the happiest guy
                      so getting 45-50kmpl is all LIES!!!! right???

                      one more question i read in one of the site that FZS have more maintenance is it true???
                      Thanks for the answers!
                      Last edited by indianhits; 10-18-2012, 11:48 PM.

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                      • #12
                        OK.. here is my say.. I am a 2011 i.e pre-2012 owner of the Fazer.

                        Buy a Fz/Fazer if you want a stable and comfortable ride.. The acceleration is very smooth. You wont get any jerk/vibrations at all. but if you are on dusty surface, off roading a little - its not the bike to have.
                        The massive rear comes with pros and cons -
                        Pros - Grip, turns, looks
                        Cons - Poor 0-60, less mileage, poor rear brakes(sometime I feel are there any rear brakes at all)
                        Though the 0-60 figures are improved because of the midship muffler which is designed to give the low end torque.. but still it barely manages to entertain me in 0-60.
                        Coming to mileage - This bike's mileage depends upon a lot of factors. I was initailly getting 38.. then rose to 40, once 42. But if someone asks me, I just tell it will give around 40.. My bike is heavier than a FZ so I think a sane rider can get 45 on a new FZ.
                        In stop-go traffic the bike will give much less mileage as everytime you move forward the engine has to work against the heavy and wide rear tyre.
                        But if someone tell me his fazer gives back less than 35 km/l I would say something's wrong in the style/settings rather than bike. I once didnt lubricate the chain and my mileage fell to 35.
                        Regarding maintenance - Yes it is slightly costlier to maintain. Rear tyres lasts 24-25K and costs 3500 INR. Chain set lasts 20K and costs 1500 INR.
                        The money I have spent in the past 11000 km(from March 2011) - Rs. ZERO(Not including engine oil, oil filter, chain lube and regular service and washing labor charge) this after I ride the fastest on the road I travel.. maintaining 60-80, rarely 90.
                        You can call me a satisfied YAMAHA customer. Not so happy with the SVC though.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                          OK.. here is my say.. I am a 2011 i.e pre-2012 owner of the Fazer.

                          Buy a Fz/Fazer if you want a stable and comfortable ride.. The acceleration is very smooth. You wont get any jerk/vibrations at all. but if you are on dusty surface, off roading a little - its not the bike to have.
                          The massive rear comes with pros and cons -
                          Pros - Grip, turns, looks
                          Cons - Poor 0-60, less mileage, poor rear brakes(sometime I feel are there any rear brakes at all)
                          Though the 0-60 figures are improved because of the midship muffler which is designed to give the low end torque.. but still it barely manages to entertain me in 0-60.
                          Coming to mileage - This bike's mileage depends upon a lot of factors. I was initailly getting 38.. then rose to 40, once 42. But if someone asks me, I just tell it will give around 40.. My bike is heavier than a FZ so I think a sane rider can get 45 on a new FZ.
                          In stop-go traffic the bike will give much less mileage as everytime you move forward the engine has to work against the heavy and wide rear tyre.
                          But if someone tell me his fazer gives back less than 35 km/l I would say something's wrong in the style/settings rather than bike. I once didnt lubricate the chain and my mileage fell to 35.
                          Regarding maintenance - Yes it is slightly costlier to maintain. Rear tyres lasts 24-25K and costs 3500 INR. Chain set lasts 20K and costs 1500 INR.
                          The money I have spent in the past 11000 km(from March 2011) - Rs. ZERO(Not including engine oil, oil filter, chain lube and regular service and washing labor charge) this after I ride the fastest on the road I travel.. maintaining 60-80, rarely 90.
                          You can call me a satisfied YAMAHA customer. Not so happy with the SVC though.


                          This is much well saidfor FZ or Frazer !! So next time any one points out that FZ or Frazer are bad in mileage then they surely needs to check the riding style and otehr factors!!

                          TS: Does this helps you out ?? He gave a review personally with 2011 model, but your would be 2012 new FZ, But still i would recommended CBZ dual Disc, just becuase of Dual Disc, your short distance daily won't matter in kmpl usage ever to you!! So choose better one!!

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                          • #14
                            Thanks guys for all the reply just went to show room yesterday and got my self a new FZS(orange one!)

                            can i get any forum thread or tips particular on FZ/FZS on how to ride properly i mean at what RPM we need to shift etc so i can maintain my ride properly.
                            Last edited by indianhits; 10-20-2012, 07:54 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by indianhits View Post
                              Thanks guys for all the reply just went to show room yesterday and got my self a new FZS(orange one!)

                              can i get any forum thread or tips particular on FZ/FZS on how to ride properly i mean at what RPM we need to shift etc so i can maintain my ride properly.
                              Congrats!!

                              And what dude?? why to depend on people ??

                              You might have got a manual, read it and if any issues?? then there is a ownership thread in ownership section, so write it.

                              It's better you ride your bike in 40-60kmph for first 1000kms and change avoid high race or usage of low gears!!

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