ANy R15, I have rode V2 also.
Yes dimension would be different as there is a big difference in the bike size, But, does these both bikes share the same concpet of frame ?

The fact that CBR 150 R is a track machine is indeed true. Although its styling is derived from the 250, the huge reduction in weight of the 150 (around 30 kgs or so lesser) enables it to be track-fit. Unlike the 250 which is bulkier and not so maneuverable. Ofcourse that doesn't mean it can corner as effectively as the R15, because the R15 derived its styling from the R1 which is a track beast. The people at the Honda did a pretty good job, they were able to bring out a machine that has its styling based from a sports tourer, yet capable at track conditions.

Still not convinced! Yes it's true that some where it is very much capable to do a track runs. But even Duke does this very well, so thus Duke can be considered as track Machine ? Similarly if NS200 gets a better grip tyres then even that does good cornerring but not that good as R15 or CBR or Duke does. Can't comment on NS200 100% becuase only once had cornered on NS200.

By chassis difference I meant, the type of Chassis are different & not just dimensions. i.e. Diamond type & Twin spar frame..

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Only advice I would offer - TD each bike in your list. Test should include the scenario you plan to drive in most frequently (with pillion, in traffic etc)

On any road (let alone Indian roads) what difference does it make if a bike is a Track Machine or not?
All bikes in the thread starters budget offer superior handling and braking (R15/Duke/200NS/CBR250/CBR150) that are enough to save your hide in case of unplanned situations.
In my opinion, any person pushing the limits of a bike on road to a level that can only be met by a Track Machine, is a fool.

On the contrary, you seem to comment on the 200NS quite a lot

Do you think people keep cornering if they buy CBR or R15 or Duke ?? It's thier choice that they want something best!!

Any given day Track Machine would be a better handler than other bikes. Now people are more attracted towards more better features.

Not all are same, sane riders ...

What you say is true, the duke can indeed corner very well. But does this make it a track machine? No. Why? Because it wasn't made as a track machine. The duke is made as a streetfighter. But does this mean they can't be run on tracks? You can run it on track circuits, but it wasn't made for such runs, although its capable of doing it. There's a good reason that you don't see that lot of naked, streetfighter bikes on track circuits when compared to track oriented fully faired ones. Not that they aren't capable of doing the runs, just that it would be kinda awkward to do so.

You can even take a Splendor/M80/TVS XL50 to a racetrack. There is no such restriction. Just slapping on a full fairing doesn't suddenly make some bike a *Track Machine*. The bike which is the fastest one *on that track* is the best track machine *on that track*. The bike which is most forgiving is the best *learner bike*. A Duke is not a great learner bike, but it is exceptionally good on the track when setting a fast lap-time. By comparison, R15 and RTR are good learner bikes.

@Thread Starter:
Looking at your requirements, If you have a very compelling reason not to buy the Pulsar 200NS, you can try out either a ZMR or a CBR150R (very slightly over the budget). Test ride both bikes after you Test Ride the 200NS and then choose.

Why others didn't make the cut?
1. Duke overshoots the budget by 20k.
2. R15 doesn't have a comfy pillion seat.
3. P220 lacks the tech available in this budget.

It's not only the fatest but the right balance while turn and straight. Handling and braking also matters a lot and the bikes you mentioned don't have those to be fit in track !!

BTW the topic is going over board now!! he he he!!

TS will you plan something ??

150r has the steel tube constructed twin spar frame in place of the Trellis type diamond frame on the 250 more importantly the 150r's suspension is not as soft as cbr250's, this would make it fare a lot better on track.

Regarding over-budget in case of 150r, let me tell you that I bought it for 130,500 (inclusive all) (2 weeks ago)

@Somen, let me try answering even though I am reiterating what others have commented on CBR 150r's ownership threads. 2 reasons
1. It is low torque high revving machine which makes a peak power at a very high rpm compared to others in the segment which is a typical character of a track machine.
2. Considering the weight (as mentioned by Ezhil) and the sticky rubber from MRF which together contributes for a very good handling is a typical character of a track machine.

I understood these from earlier reviews from killer (page 33 or 34 in cbr 150r ownership thread). Also based on killer's review on 250r, due to its torquy engine, less aggressive seating and wider tyres it qualifies as a fantastic touring machine rather than a track animal.

Also when I test drove both r15 v2 and cbr 150r back to back, the only differences I could able to make are 1. R15 had little better low end torque and slightly better rubber. 2. Less aggressive seating position of CBR than R15. The way both machines accelerated and behaved in long stretches were very close.

Hope this convinces you to some extent.

In Blr it is 10-11k more expensive. DLX is 13k expensive.

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