Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

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Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

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Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

[MENTION=65701]NitinRamola[/MENTION], you wanted to buy a ZMR, but you loved riding the bull. What does it mean?
Get the bull. Go through the ownership threads while you wait for your bike to come.

All the best.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Hi
All i am looking for is a good looking design with good ride quality . Now RE has superb ride quality but it lacks in design where as karizma zmr ride quality is good ,but not as good as RE , but design wise karizma score much. if u will see karizma ZMR it comes well equip with latest odometer , tubeless tyres, rear and front disc brakes...
Also i have heard RE cost a lot on maintenance...

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

All bikes come with their own set of problems, but overall ZMR needs lesser maintenance visits to the SVC w.r.t RE.
Design is subjective. Afterall, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

RE has tremendous load pulling ability, you can simply take it around the hills along with pillion and it would chug along happily. Not that ZMR would complain, but RE's torque is in a different league.
RE is heavier than ZMR. Its mileage is also low w.r.t ZMR. Since its based on a retro concept, it misses out on new console designs etc.

RE has TT tires, but IMO that's not a problem. Lakhs of REs run worldwide on TT tires and punctures don't occur to even 5% of them (at least in the first 5-10 k kms).
Top speed is neither's forte, but you'd love cruising at 100-110 on a ZMR. RE vibrates post 90. Its best in the 80s. It loves riding the casual way.

P.S - All the above are my personal opinions with my experience with both bikes.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Best you wait for the all new ZMR and decide after that. . . Personally, I would also ask you to go for electra but still the new ZMR looks better and more comfortable too. . .

Cheers!!!

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

NitinRamola : You buy a Bull because you want to buy a bull. PERIOD. There is no comparison to be made. The moment you start comparing RE with other, RE will lag behind in many aspects. If you are not a RE fanatic, i suggest that you do not get it, just because you might not be able to handle the Care that an RE demands to keep in good shape. People go in to buying an RE keeping this in mind, and those who don't scratch their heads off! RE's have one most distinguished feature and that is the torque. Maybe that is what made you experience the 'Ride quality'.

If you want a bike with lower maintenance i suggest you go with the hero any-day. It will also come with the tech goodies to keep to interested for a while.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Beautiful!
[MENTION=65701]NitinRamola[/MENTION] - The quoted post should clear your mind. It is as simple as that. You should not regret your choice later so contemplate and decide. The RE must have been an infatuation; happens! Happened with me too.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

I think you should go for Bullet.. Riding Bullet is an unmatched experiance.....

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark


Both are legends. Both are good tourers and not exactly meant for city. Still, the Karizma fares better in the city than the Bull. Navigating your Bull is like a nightmare in hectic traffic though the same extra weight is a boon in the highway. Go with Karizma if your priority is city riding. And yes, the ZMR will not make you visit the SC as frequently as the Bull. But you know what, despite the shortcomings, when a Bullet runs through a street with that unmatched sound, you somehow get the feeling that here goes the 'King of the road'!
Decision is yours based on your priority.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

[MENTION=65701]NitinRamola[/MENTION], both these bikes are from different league, though I would like to put some of my inputs as I've been using RE TBTS and currently using ZMR.

1. In terms of comfort RE is far ahead, however if you are looking for both comfort and reliability you should go for ZMR, this does not mean RE is not reliable but RE needs constant attention from their owner, you don't want to push 187 k.g's of load in middle of nowhere if you ignored her routine maintenance.
2. Think about the priorities and then decide, for e.g if you have your primary motorcycle for daily commuting and then are you going to use RE more for touring and less commuting then go for it, ZMR is all rounder package when you compare it with the RE.

Both these bike their Pro's and Con's but after using both these bikes I can surely feel myself inclined more towards to ZMR for below reasons:

a) Superb acceleration through out the all rev range, you wouldn't find loss of power or thirst like all rev hungry short geared machines which means it has relaxed engine unlike to RE.
b) Being a long stroke engine ZMR it makes better low end torque.
c) It has clip on handle bar which looks sporty but yet they generates nice upright posture as soon as you sit on the bike you would certainly notice that, it has nice sitting posture which can give minimum fatigue on long rides.
d) Fi (fuel injected system) will make sure that your bike will fire up in every weather condition that doesn't meant carb bikes can't provide good startup but they might can face little niggles while starting up in worst weather condition or high altitude region.
e) FE is much better in it's own class, in city it gives around 39 to 41 kmpl and on highway it's around 43 to 46 kmpl if you ride it sanely with proper/minimal gear shifting.

Things which i don't like:
Puny tires
poor headlights
vibrations (lesser compare to RE)

Some people say ZMR/ Karizma is outdated in terms of technology, but I don't feel like it, practically thinking it is still best VFM you can get on Indian market and suits Indian road conditions.

PS: above mentioned comments are purely based on my own experiences no offence to RE owners.

You can always look up ZMR ownership thread and compare it with your own thoughts.

If you want more technical advice you can ask to [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]Sharan they can navigate you better.

Finally test ride both the bikes and decide, choices is yours.

Cheers,
Amogh.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Hasn't he already got the ZMR, or am I hallucinating?
BTW, I don't agree with few points of yours above.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Mate,

Those were purely my opinions for ZMR and it wasn't a comparison with RE.

I typed "I can surely feel myself inclined more towards to ZMR for below reasons"

I disagree. RE is not rev happy at all and it pulls like crazy in all gears.
Agreed on that but I was talking about other short geared machines it wasn't a comparison with RE, AFAIK all previous RE have tall geared ratio not really aware of new cafe racer though.

What? ZMR makes more torque than RE
Again it wasn't a comparison with RE.

AFAIK, RE also has few models with FI
Agreed, however all my comments were based on ZMR only.



Cheers,
Amogh.

Re: Bike Advice: Karizma ZMR or BULLET Electra Twinspark

Oh, then a mistake from my end sir jee. Since the thread is ZMR vs RE, I took your comments on the same lines as well.