Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

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Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Why don't you keep a Pulsar 180 in your list? It should blend with your wish list... You can use her daily in city without any hassle... You can use it for touring.... It is a perfect blend of a daily commuter and weekend stress buster...Not to forget, it is a total Value for Money bike...The only thing you need to install is an Osram Night breaker head bulb and then you can do 70-100 KM/hr easily at night... Since you are 173cm tall, you can put both your feet down at a time and this would assist you while learning.... The seats are OK but you can always change them according to your needs... You will easily get 40-43~45 KM per litre but that depends upon your riding style too... The acceleration and top speed department is very much acceptable ( 120-125KM/hr would be more than enough for you).. This should fall in your budget too.

Spares are easily available, almost any mechanic can repair the Pulsar 180, For a list of good Bajaj SVCs you can always ask xBhPians from Bangalore..

However, I would strictly recommend you to learn riding on any other bike/ gearless scooter so that you become familier with the ABC of a two wheeler... Once you are comfortable riding a two wheeler, go out for test rides of different bikes.. Who knows you may end up with a ThunderBird or a D390?

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

All is well but the question is how long till the next bike?! Will you be happy and content with the Fazer long enough? - I am talking about the power alone. Both, FZ & Fazer are flawless bikes to begin biking with - stable, reliable, smooth etc. Fazer will definitely have an edge in case of highway riding.

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

i would suggest you to go ahead with the Fazer.. its a really nice machine.. good riding position, smooth engine and an overall good stability..
since this is going to be your first bike, then don't think about future proofing.. it will take a few years for to get enough experience to move onto higher cc bikes..
i also own FZ and so does the above rider, so we can say that Fz/Fazer won't be too hard for you and would give you good feedback..
mileage is also ok ok.. 35-40 km/L if ridden in a proper manner..

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Very rarely people come with a definitive idea about their purchase and you seem to be one.
I will suggest you buy the Fazer or FZ, though I like the latter more. On highways maybe Fazer is better due to the fairings. Other than that everything is same and if you buy FZ, you can keep the price a little more on the lower side.
I am 165 cms and merely 53 kgs, I had this problem with pillion, as most of the time the pillion is heavier than me. It can affect the balance a little but in the due course of time you won't mind it.
FZ or Fazer is a good bike to start with, have excellent control. Its a good choice.


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Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Nice to see someone having clarity of what bike he wants. You can go for it eyes closed. Its a good learner's machine. Very forgiving. I learnt handling the bike in mad city traffic on a Karizma, so I'm sure Fazer would live up to your expectations.

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Yes, P180 is also on my list as my mind is not made up. I forgot to add it. The issue here is a rather high maintenance that people seem to complain about (relative to the others) and the fact that everybisy seems to own one. I am not much of a show off, but feel that the indivduality is lost. That being said its not out of the list by any means. BTW, isnt the seating position and handling a bit more comfortable on the Fazer ?

My worry is that I know next to nothing about bikes except what I read online and hear from friends. I surely wouldnt be willing to lug it from mechanic to mechanic if I should, god forbid, hit issues. But then again like you pointed out, every mechanic seems to know his way around the pulsars much like the Hero Hondas.

I will take a better look at the P180.

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I think I am not very speed/power minded. The upgrade would possibly come over time, but then I'm not sure if that will be from the ranks of a sports-like bike or tourer-like bike. So If I should ever feel the need for it in say a couple of years' time I am open to an appropriate upgrade - just that right now, having never ridden a bike before I am not quite convinced of whether or not I'll crave for more power. But I am the kind of guy that fusses over the little things - usability and fuss free nature of getting things done

1. Even when I game I have distinct likes to the handling of certain cars as compared to some others whereas I wouldnt really care much about top speed (not sure how appropriate of an example it is)
2. Hate the single light only mode of the Fazer more than the fact that its expensive :|
3. Own a Windows Phone despite knowing full well how powerful the Androids are; just couldnt stand the lag and maintenance it asked for from the user. (Again, not sure if that means anything at all here)

I used to note in bus/cab rides how fast the speeds feel. I think I will be a fairly happy chap at 90, and apparently the Fazer does very well up until 90-95. I am simply not of the kind that would push the throttle a bit more just to see the three digits. For all I care I could be in the 80s and still be happy as long as the bike doesnt give me any reason to worry about it. But being an absolute noob the needs may change over time and I understand that I may even end up with a 250CBR or the Thunderbird sometime in the future, but right now I just dont wish to take that risk to myself or the bike. For the same reasons the R15 is out - I cant test drive to get a feel for these bikes when I dont even know how to ride one

Thanks for the kind comments @rxdude and @Divya Sharan. Like I said, I am a rather fussy guy, so wouldnt like to jump to a decision only to regret it later. So I had to research.

Thanks everyone for the quick replies, really appriciate it though my purchase is atleast half a year away.

I'd also like to know the comparison between the P220 and the Fazer's headlamps. I have seen the Pulsars headlight in action and its glorius. Havent seen the fazer, but the one-eye syndrome makes it a weaker bet. How bad is it in comparison ?

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I'd also like some suggestions for a Helmet and riding gear. I'd put the combined budget at ~15k at the moment.

Regarding Helmets, I like the ones that have the whole front movable - like it helps drink or eat something. And I'd prefer them to be matte black (if it wouldnt be an issue in the Bangalore summer for 3 hr rides)

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

You can go with either Fazer or FZ - with eyes closed. Both are from YAMAHA - so, quality and performance is not a problem. And you have done your research pretty well. So, there is no point misleading you about numerous bikes of the same category. Fazer will be a little heavy. This heaviness is definitely a boon for the highways and a little problematic for city. Still visit the showroom, sit on one and decide yourself. Buy any YAMAHA bike and you'll never regret!

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

You have made everything clearer by this moment. Hands down, go for the FAZER. You'll not regret! Like I said before, this is one bike in 150cc category that you'll not regret owning. The reliability is top-notch. The one-eyed headlamp cannot be avoided - any bike with dual ones, for that matter, will have this syndrome. The P220 headlamp is HID with projector and it is one of the strongest stock headlamp in an Indian bike. So, honestly there is no comparison but don't you worry, there are plenty of aftermarket options for the Fazer and being dual, the beauty is undeniable. The fairing is a boon in highways. I have seen this thing do some 100 kmph (120 kmph speedo) in one of our bangalore G2G rides.

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Fazer will suit you. But, since you have some concerns about handling the steering, you need to take a call by test driving it. All faired bikes will be initially bit difficult / confusing in the steering part, as the fairing will be aligned with bikes direction and the steering has to go alone when you turn, you don't get to see the front wheel turning either. This is just a illusion will keep you bit disturbed during initial days. Better, learn to drive first, get a license and then go for the test drive, if you are comfortable with these facts, you can go for fazer.

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Is that true?? Stock is HID? I thought they came with 55W H7 bulbs.. Could you please confirm?

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

You are right!! I was in a hurry to make the peer understand the power. Sorry, shaktimaan!!! I hope you'll understand the intentions.


Thanks.

Re: First time rider, love the Fazer, budget not much of a constraint

Its not HID, its a H7 type halogen. 55w.
EDIT - you already realized the mistake! Replied too late.

This illusion occurs to only those who do not understand counter-steering.