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**theironhorse99** · 02-13-2015, 07:12 AM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Mibin M View Post

Yeah, Probably il just fly off from the bike when it touches 160, shit...it can do 160

.??? good heavens, i thought close to 150 or something. Anyways i am a sane rider, max is about 80 on an RE. But on four wheels i am actually happy to do 150+

. Very Rarely though. Feels safe inside,lol

lol.. yes as you said lean frame... and yeah 160 on speedo with 7% error so ideally 148-150 ture speed however with my 80 kg frame i haven't anything more than 142 on GPS so 150's on speedo...

ride safe and get good gear and helmet..

**shv18** · 02-13-2015, 01:48 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Mibin M View Post

Many Thanks to all who have helped me with loads of info on CBR 250r. As it turns out, i am not able to get a positive response from the accounts head. I guess they are planning on breeding the CBR's

So once again, if the CBR is not gonna work out, i had shortlisted Duke 200 and Pulsar 200NS and in a short distance the Apache rtr 180 ABS.

Read so much about Duke and 200Ns. Many good and bad reviews for both the bike. But as a previous pulsar user(P180), does the chain sprocket sound exist in 200Ns too??? About Apache, heard it cant handle the power, hence vibration is high. I never really thought buying a bike would be this hard.

About my preferences on bike:
*Budget-1.5
*Daily 45 km up and down
*Occasional touring, and plans on long distance in near future
*Mileage(40kmpl, is it too much to ask??

) i am a 60's rider, saaaaane rider

*maintenance should not be too harsh for the pocket

I guess that all i can ask for right now. If there are any other options please do suggest
Bikes not interested in: Karizama, Yamaha R15, FZ, CBR 150r)

Thanks Guys

If you are open to the idea of looking out for a used, second hand CBR i would recommend you to do so. Many of us, the moment we hear the word second hand, we have a tendency to look on the other side. Understandably because there is always a possibility you may get a dud piece for a lot of money spent if you don't know how to check things out properly. However, if you take a few nit bits from senior riders like [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, believe me you will be the happiest of the lot. A good used condition CBR with under 10-12k on the odo at your place should be available in the market for 80k - 1.10 lkhs. You may further add 10k more to the budget say for TLC and brand new tires.

As mentioned earlier, Hondas are known for reliability so a well looked after CBR shouldn't cost you that much to own and barring basic maintenance will not give you any trouble and 10k kms on the belt is nothing for this engine. So would suggest that you do take this into consideration before going ahead with making a purchase.

Cheers,

**Mibin M** · 02-13-2015, 01:56 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

If you are open to the idea of looking out for a used, second hand CBR i would recommend you to do so. Many of us, the moment we hear the word second hand, we have a tendency to look on the other side. Understandably because there is always a possibility you may get a dud piece for a lot of money spent if you don't know how to check things out properly. However, if you take a few nit bits from senior riders like @psr sir, believe me you will be the happiest of the lot. A good used condition CBR with under 10-12k on the odo at your place should be available in the market for 80k - 1.10 lkhs. You may further add 10k more to the budget say for TLC and brand new tires.

As mentioned earlier, Hondas are known for reliability so a well looked after CBR shouldn't cost you that much to own and barring basic maintenance will not give you any trouble and 10k kms on the belt is nothing for this engine. So would suggest that you do take this into consideration before going ahead with making a purchase.

Cheers,

Deae Shv18,
Nope, i am not looking for used. Mainly due to the fact that i plan on buying through bank

**ramos** · 02-13-2015, 03:10 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Hi Mibin

I am also from Kannur,Planning to buy a bike soon. Are you talking about Peeyem Honda ?
If one more piece is available and within a considerable price , I am in for a buy.

**Mibin M** · 02-13-2015, 05:02 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by ramos View Post

Hi Mibin

I am also from Kannur,Planning to buy a bike soon. Are you talking about Peeyem Honda ?
If one more piece is available and within a considerable price , I am in for a buy.

Dear Ramos,
Will definitely put up the details here once green signal is received from management

, so that all the CBR lovers can come in and have a party

**Mibin M** · 02-19-2015, 02:32 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

After waiting a long time, came the reply from management. Unfortunately, its nothing to be happy. Offered a discount which i am ashamed of quoting here

. Guess plans should be dropped

Again, my GM had talked with the CFO to make an ideal decision. He told" if a good price can be quoted people will be ready to buy it". I hope there are CBR lovers in here. Do let me know if anyone is in(hopefully the management offers a good price to liquidate their stock

). You can PM me with your approx quote.

Attaching some more pics, i guess the pillion seat removed to store the battery separately.

Attached Files

**Divya Sharan** · 02-19-2015, 02:59 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Mibin, are they all with Continental tires? From the pics, it does seem so. Also, what about warranty?

Tricolor CBR is a 2012 model IIRC. So, 3 years depreciation + new battery + probably new tires + oil + coolant + resale hit -> I'd expect at least 60-65k discount on the ABS model and 50 odd on non ABS. Calculated with many assumptions here and there.

**Mibin M** · 02-19-2015, 03:28 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Mibin, are they all with Continental tires? From the pics, it does seem so. Also, what about warranty?

Tricolor CBR is a 2012 model IIRC. So, 3 years depreciation + new battery + probably new tires + oil + coolant + resale hit -> I'd expect at least 60-65k discount on the ABS model and 50 odd on non ABS. Calculated with many assumptions here and there.

Yup, I guess conti tires. About warranty, it was said as " from the date of sale" plus we can opt for EW also. So that case is solved. But 65K discount s pretty hefty amount

. Don't you think? i quoted around 1.6 for ABS(guessing 2013 models were close to 2 lac on road at that time). As of last week it was 2.12 for ABS and 1.8 for Non ABS

**psr** · 02-19-2015, 03:57 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Mibin M View Post

Yup, I guess conti tires. About warranty, it was said as " from the date of sale" plus we can opt for EW also. So that case is solved. But 65K discount s pretty hefty amount

. Don't you think? i quoted around 1.6 for ABS(guessing 2013 models were close to 2 lac on road at that time). As of last week it was 2.12 for ABS and 1.8 for Non ABS

Mibin...What If some internals have been exchanged for Service Parts ? the bikes look abandoned and not cared for at all.....and at Rs. 2+ Lakhs ABS or 1.8L for Non ABS it is a very costly proposition....Like Mr.Divya Sharan said ,these bikes need to be discounted deep ,since they are the old lot....further the Warranty clause in India is very vague..the Parent company can refuse the same based on VIN and date of Manufacture.....there is every chance that the bore inner would have formed rust pits,and is not going to last as much as a new bike engine.....
Stay away from these bikes and buy a Fresh new one, since there is no great price advantage, at the Price you had indicated.
Just my Thought.
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**Mibin M** · 02-19-2015, 04:15 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by psr View Post

Mibin...What If some internals have been exchanged for Service Parts ? the bikes look abandoned and not cared for at all.....and at Rs. 2+ Lakhs ABS or 1.8L for Non ABS it is a very costly proposition....Like Mr.Divya Sharan said ,these bikes need to be discounted deep ,since they are the old lot....further the Warranty clause in India is very vague..the Parent company can refuse the same based on VIN and date of Manufacture.....there is every chance that the bore inner would have formed rust pits,and is not going to last as much as a new bike engine.....
Stay away from these bikes and buy a Fresh new one, since there is no great price advantage, at the Price you had indicated.
Just my Thought.

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PSR sir,
I read someone calling you that

. The internal parts exchange is a serious issue that i dint even think of. Thanks a TON for making me remember that. Also the inner rust problem is also a big problem for future(but since the engine oil and other lubes are present, will rust form?). And if i say il take it for 65K discount, Director would go nuts

. I l try my best.

New one..hmmm

.

**psr** · 02-19-2015, 04:30 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Mibin M View Post

PSR sir,
I read someone calling you that

. The internal parts exchange is a serious issue that i dint even think of. Thanks a TON for making me remember that. Also the inner rust problem is also a big problem for future(but since the engine oil and other lubes are present, will rust form?). And if i say il take it for 65K discount, Director would go nuts

. I l try my best.

New one..hmmm

.

Mibin,..."Sir' is not required. Most bikes have engines with a Steel inner sleeve with Aluminum Alloy outer for better heat dissipation while retaining the wear strength of Steel..save for the Diasil and ceramic coated ones.....If the engine Lubricant ie., Engine Oil does not constantly circulates and coat through the bore(normal Riding), the oil film over a period either moves down on to piston rings,and/or evaporates over time(long storage) and leaves the Steel material exposed to the elements...over time rust pits develops and kills the smooth surface of the bore...
Regarding exchange of parts at Dealership, it is a known practice to plunder parts from long time parked bikes for Service....In fact I had myself seen a new front wheel (from bike meant for sale)removed and fixed on to another bike just for satisfying a customer ....so be aware of this...

It is better for the Director to go Bananas than you loosing your hard earned money...131

**Mibin M** · 02-19-2015, 04:41 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by psr View Post

Mibin,..."Sir' is not required. Most bikes have engines with a Steel inner sleeve with Aluminum Alloy outer for better heat dissipation while retaining the wear strength of Steel..save for the Diasil and ceramic coated ones.....If the engine Lubricant ie., Engine Oil does not constantly circulates and coat through the bore(normal Riding), the oil film over a period either moves down on to piston rings,and/or evaporates over time(long storage) and leaves the Steel material exposed to the elements...over time rust pits develops and kills the smooth surface of the bore...
Regarding exchange of parts at Dealership, it is a known practice to plunder parts from long time parked bikes for Service....In fact I had myself seen a new front wheel (from bike meant for sale)removed and fixed on to another bike just for satisfying a customer ....so be aware of this...

It is better for the Director to go Bananas than you loosing your hard earned money...131

Even though i dint understand quite a lot from reading your explanation i guess its a serious issue, about the rust and stuff. so i guess i should move on to other options now. Anyway il let the you know the "Price" by management.

**Divya Sharan** · 02-19-2015, 05:30 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by psr View Post

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Originally posted by psr View Post

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Potential OT:
Sir, please explain this. I'm curious!

**Mibin M** · 02-19-2015, 07:03 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Seems like 200SS launch is around the corner, but no info from Bajaj dealers. Is there any significant change from 200NS other than the cosmetics and ABS option? Is it a good call over CBR 250r STD version? Anyone with more info on launch dates?

**TheArcher84** · 02-19-2015, 07:19 PM

Re: CBR 250R Lying unused in Dealership

Originally posted by Mibin M View Post

Seems like 200SS launch is around the corner, but no info from Bajaj dealers. Is there any significant change from 200NS other than the cosmetics and ABS option? Is it a good call over CBR 250r STD version? Anyone with more info on launch dates?

Your guess is as good as everybodys here. None, other than some spy shots and leaked news that SS was spotted in some dealership yard.

Unless peeple from bajaj opens up and says, nothing to be uttered till then

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