Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills

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Both the bikes you have mentioned handle really well. Basis that, you can choose either and be happy. Maybe if you look closer at the things you want/ don't want from your bike, you might be in a better position to be able to choose between the two.

Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills

Both of your shortlisted bikes are very good handlers in the hills. You cannot go wrong with any of the two.

If you want a premium bike with fuel injecting system and budget is not a problem.. choose FZ V2.0.
If you want a trendy fresh looking bike with normal carburetted engine, go for Gixxer.

if you want something really new and fresh.. take a look at Pulsar AS series. very recently launched and very exclusive.

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Thank you.. I'm looking at good pillion comfort too.. Any idea about which offers better pillion comfort? Esp for ladies who prefer to sit by the side.

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Thank you.. I'm looking at good pillion comfort too.. Any idea about which offers better pillion comfort? Esp for ladies who prefer to sit by the side.

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Thank you..

I like gixxer more than fz.. But Suzuki after sales and service network makes me apprehensive..

Fuel injection vs carburetor type - which would serve me better in hills? For anything and everything I'd have to get down hills for the nearest authorized service center! :-(

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Thank you..

I like gixxer more than fz.. But Suzuki after sales and service network makes me apprehensive..

Fuel injection vs carburetor type - which would serve me better in hills? For anything and everything I'd have to get down hills for the nearest authorized service center! :-(

Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills


Ok brother let me give you both pros and cons of fuel injection and carburettor.

Fuel injection pros:
It is the latest technology and it makes use of sensors to inject the exact amount of fuel to the engine to give maximum power and fuel economy.
It is fully automatic, so you dont have to worry about turning fuel knob to reserve, on or off.
No need of choke, the sensors detect the engine temperature if it is too cold it tells the fuel injection system to make air fuel mixture rich which helps the bike start in one go even in snow. So no need of remembering to turn choke on and off. It does it automatically.
No need to adjust the idling of the engine, the fuel injection system adjusts itself to any situation whether you are on hills or plains.
The lambda sensor in the exhaust checks the exhaust gases and takes the reading of the pollution, and adjusts itself so that the bike produces minimum pollutants.
The throttle response is very very good, the bike responds really quickly to even slight throttle twist.

Cons of fuel injection:
A fuel injected bike is comparatively expensive than a carbureted bike.
You have to take care and avoid adulterated fuel (petrol that is not pure). the impurities may jam the injection system and it is costly to repair or replace. So choose Fuel injection if the fuel is good. you dont need special petrol, just normal petrol without anything mixed in it
IF there is a problem in the bike, only the authorized person can work on the bike, the street side mechanics cannot repair the bike. So if you travel in places where the authorized service centers are far away, it might be a problem if it breaks down.



Pros of carburetor:
cheaper than fuel injected bike.
Simple and old... proven with age technology.
any mechanic can repair it, if it breaks down.

Cons of carburetor:
Cold start can be a problem in winters.
you have to adjust the idling and engine tuning manually.(which is not big a deal).


So you can choose any one depending on where you live and keeping in mind the pros and cons of both the systems.
You wont go wrong with any of the two. just choose the one that will be easier to live with.
I hope I have answered all you doubts. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

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Thank you ankey.. Guess its carburetor type for me then..

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Thank you ankey.. Guess its carburetor type for me then..

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Please do check out the Karizma series. They are very comfortable on hills and highways. I don't need to say much about the bike. Please do take a test ride if possible. Somehow personally I feel the 150cc segment bikes do not satisfy you on the longer run. You will always go for more power later on.... Why not now?

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Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills

Carburettors

This technology has been around for over a century and is still used in numerous bikes and other automobiles. Simply put, a carburettor is a device whose job is to blend air and fuel for an internal combustion engine. It takes a decision on the amount of fuel that an engine needs, depending upon the amount of air that is pushed in, by the virtue of atmospheric pressure.


Electronic fuel injection

As the name suggests, EFI also does the job of carburettor but with an element of automation. In this case, the fuel is delivered from the tank to the injector through an electronic fuel pump.

Moreover, such electronic mechanism ensures that the fuel is maintained at a constant level by means of a fuel pressure regulator.

There is so much to know. Some motorcycles are still stuck to carburettor, but the advanced bikes have switched to fuel injected engines.

Debatable fact is that most of the mechanics have experience with carburettors and very few know about fuel-injection systems. Carburetted bikes are simpler to maintain and refurbish. Most people we come across are stuck with the myth that a fuel injection motorcycle increases the cost of the bike; however, most of them tend to ignore the various benefits that this technology entails.

Cold starts

Carburetted motorcycles are slow on cold start and they need time to speed up at low temperatures. The choke system is used to start off the cold engine. Since the fuel in a cold engine condenses and sticks to the walls of the cylinder, it is not powered easily for the engine to start. The additional fuel is supplied from the choke system to the engine.

In bikes that are fuel injected, the fuel pump is in the tank, the other important parts being an electronic engine controller and multiple sensors.


Repairing

There is another strong point to be noted while discussing the difference between Carburettor generated bikes and electronic fuel injected bikes. Carburettor problems are fixed on the side of the road with basic tools in the car's stock or by a mechanic. But in case of fuel injected systems, replacements of parts is necessary.

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Suzuki Gixxer will be better because it has " more torque " and more power . Since its carburettor it will be easy to get it fixed and if there is a suzuki service centre near by it will the perfect choice.

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Thank you Captain666

Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills

[MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION] [MENTION=77066]captain666[/MENTION] [MENTION=69523]Ankey[/MENTION] what about CB Unicorn 160 guys?

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have read about gixxer getting really muddy due to splash from tires during rains? is it true? are suzuki doing something about it? any solutions to overcome them?

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have read about gixxer getting really muddy due to splash from tires during rains? is it true? are suzuki doing something about it? any solutions to overcome them?

Re: Suggestions for my first bike - to be used in hills

CB unicorn 160 is a very good contender in this segment.
The engine as always is a Honda gem, super smooth robust and reliable.
The bike is well built and very reliable. The design is a bit simple, its up to you to like it or not.

One thing I felt is the vibrations at high speeds. It vibrates after 60kmph or so, which on a long highway is a bit annoying because you have to maintain a speed of about 70-80 kmph. but it is super refined at low speeds and a very good commuter bike.

If you dont ride at high speeds, it is a very good bike.

Take a test ride and decide if it suits you.

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Well one of our Xbhp member did face this issue , you can check this link

Well for the fornt , we can attach a mud flap or an engine guard



and at the rear ,i think there won't be any solution.

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Though I love carburetted bikes, I would suggest Fuel injected bikes for any hilly region. Thus, FZ makes more sense but costs a heck lot more than the Gixxer.
Trust me there is no replacement for displacement. A 150cc will start feeling underpowered at some stage. Especially if you are taking a pillion, 150cc might struggle in certain steep sections. Like someone else mentioned get a Karizma. Not saying just because I own one but it is such a great bike for hilly regions. Excellent low end torque and large capacity makes this an apt vehicle for hills. Also handles well. I have done Yelagiri, Tirupati and some other hill stations and the bike never disappointed me. I would suggest a used (previous generation) Karizma R (carb) or ZMR (FI) to stay under your budget. The previous ZMR is a gem and would do wonders on hills. Excellent fuel efficiency too. If you want to stick to 150cc get the Honda Unicorn 160. Looks bland but matches your requirements. Slightly larger (160cc) undersqaure engine with good low end torque and handles decently. I am guessing the pillion comfort should be good since it is designed to be a commuter. Remember this is carburetted.