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  • Changing my ride, your opinions please!

    I have a '98 Shogun and a '07 Honda Shine. I am not a tourer, I ride in the cities - not strictly commute (because I walk to my office). My ride means either I am out riding my 'gun with her throaty tight tone for a prime time or I am out for some work (may be with a pillion and that includes my wife) on my Honda Shine. Till date I was quite happy with the combination but now I am missing the power thrill on my Shine. It is a good bike undoubtedly, but I am not liking it anymore for whatever reasons.

    My type
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    I am more of a 2-stroker. I am riding Shoguns since '95 and my current bike is with me since '98 in a top notch condition. I always find her easy to handle, easy to ride and easy to maintain (keeping aside availibility of spares). I am 5'8" - 57 kgs. I bought the Shine keeping in perspective the low kerb weight and easy handling.

    My requirement
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    A steed that delivers power has looks and easy to handle and maneuver in dense traffic conditions.
    Should not give backpains (I am used to riding a Shogun and Shine)
    Shine gave me backpain - Shogun didn't.
    Mileage - I dont care. I do not ride that much. Combined ride with both bikes is hardly 1500 K a month.
    Budget - Less than or equal to 80k.

    The only bike that I could shortlist so far is the ZMA. Should I go for it?

    Everyone thanks in advance for your suggestions.

    Basu
    '98 Shogun

    '91 RX100


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    • #3
      Originally posted by swingarm View Post

      My requirement
      ============
      A steed that delivers power has looks and easy to handle and maneuver in dense traffic conditions.
      Should not give backpains (I am used to riding a Shogun and Shine)
      Shine gave me backpain - Shogun didn't.
      Mileage - I dont care. I do not ride that much. Combined ride with both bikes is hardly 1500 K a month.
      Budget - Less than or equal to 80k.

      The only bike that I could shortlist so far is the ZMA. Should I go for it?

      Everyone thanks in advance for your suggestions.

      Basu
      I am not sure about the ZMA's traffic abilities.

      For your requirements Apachr RTR, FZ and Suzuki GS should be the bikes.
      RTR could be bad at your no back-pain .. so GS or FZ.
      FZ is absolute handler and a good power at lower end .. GS is more of sweet power machine .. giving good response through out the power curve without any stress what so ever.

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      • #4
        Karizma/Fz
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        • #5
          Definitely FZ16...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ken cool View Post
            Karizma/Fz
            ++1
            this are the best bikes i would say if comfort is considered
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            • #7
              u can go for pulsar 200cc if u want power
              or for style fz is good !!!!!!!!!!!!
              life starts at 0 bhp and ends with xbhp

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              • #8
                Chetan, Ken, Binoy, Rachit, Akshay thank you all for the suggestions.

                Re: Pulsar - I like to stay away from them on and off the roads. Personally I can think of Bajaj only upto lamps, mixer grinders, geysers and toasters. They build those stuffs pretty good. Again this is entirely my own view and I will stick to it.

                Re: FZ - Availibility of spares after 3 years. HH has a strong good record of spare parts supply. If I intend to keep the bike, I need a stable supply of spares, which Yamaha does not provide. However I will take a test ride per your suggestions.

                Re: Apache - Not again. A company that only manufactures bike and does not provide spares is a big NO for me. I have suffered a lot getting spares for my Shogun from the same company and I have deleted TVS from my list for good. No more TVS for me.

                Re: ZMA - I am going to take a test ride today or tomorrow.
                Last edited by swingarm; 04-01-2009, 12:12 PM.
                '98 Shogun

                '91 RX100

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by swingarm View Post

                  Re: FZ - Availibility of spares after 3 years. HH has a strong good record of spare parts supply. If I intend to keep the bike, I need a stable supply of spares, which Yamaha does not provide. However I will take a test ride per your suggestions.
                  If you are thinking of spare parts, you might as well find out about the prices. Coz the Zma spare parts are as expensive at times even more than my R1. Typical example would be the brake pads. There are others.
                  The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by swingarm View Post
                    Re: Pulsar - I like to stay away from them on and off the roads. Personally I can think of Bajaj only upto lamps, mixer grinders, geysers and toasters. They build those stuffs pretty good. Again this is entirely my own view and I will stick to it.

                    Re: FZ - Availibility of spares after 3 years. HH has a strong good record of spare parts supply. If I intend to keep the bike, I need a stable supply of spares, which Yamaha does not provide. However I will take a test ride per your suggestions.

                    Re: Apache - Not again. A company that only manufactures bike and does not provide spares is a big NO for me. I have suffered a lot getting spares for my Shogun from the same company and I have deleted TVS from my list for good. No more TVS for me.

                    Re: ZMA - I am going to take a test ride today or tomorrow.
                    Looking at the factors that you pointed out, FZ is the best bet for you. It has good torque down low and pulls, even with a heavy pillion. Handling is superb in traffic. It is light and maneuverable. ZMA is noticeably heavier, especially in traffic. The shocks are a little stiff and it doesn't bottom out easily, if at all. The only negative for this bike would be the pillion seat which is a little uncomfortable.

                    My suggestion is take a test ride of all the above. And I suggest you loose the view point of staying away from pulsars, Bajaj, Apache, TVS or a particular brand. Give them a chance. Test ride and see. Also, that is my own view on your view. In the end, its upto you.

                    Regarding spares, you need them if the bike is unreliable. It has not been really long since the FZ released. If aftermarket kits are available for the bike already, I think spares would not be a problem.
                    DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by swingarm View Post

                      Re: Apache - Not again. A company that only manufactures bike and does not provide spares is a big NO for me. I have suffered a lot getting spares for my Shogun from the same company and I have deleted TVS from my list for good. No more TVS for me.
                      Since its a new bike you are looking for and not a discontinued bike like the shogun etc.. guess you should not be having problems with spares for the near future atleast. I would say its the best fit to your requirements apart from the body pain that you might get as a result of the riding position.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by swingarm View Post
                        Re: FZ - Availibility of spares after 3 years. HH has a strong good record of spare parts supply. If I intend to keep the bike, I need a stable supply of spares, which Yamaha does not provide. However I will take a test ride per your suggestions.
                        After 3 years i don't know... but it's already available for an FZ... coz i met an accident last month on my FZ and (with luck or god's grace what ever u say) there was only minor probs... the handle bar need to be changed-230rs/- and paint on the silencer gone, and the headlight glass(900rs/- which i didn't changed ) and cover got scrached... i got painted these parts and all the cost inculing the changed handle bar costed only 530rs/- and there is no probs in the availability of spares...100% sure...

                        For my friend's ZMA when he needed to change the front farings... he had to wait for almost one month(don't know its in every place)...

                        I had an '88 model RX100 for the past 4 years... Shogun which i like best in suzuki bikes... u will never ever get the punch of a two stroke for any FZ or ZMZ(as u will know it)...

                        Hey can i tell u one thing??? If mileage and 80k is not a probs, y don't u go for an RD350(it really rocks man )...coz u told u r a 2-stroker...
                        sigpic...Ride Long...Ride Safe...

                        When you dance with the devil, you wait for the song to stop...

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                        • #13
                          Basu zma fits in perfectly great bike good durabilty and spares are easily available, yes i agree with you regarding the spares of tvs you know very well how i was running around for small nuts bolts when i chose the rtr disc set up for my RX its a big pain.

                          My take go for ZMA there's no displacement for this bike.
                          "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


                          Still the Boss -- RX 135

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                          • #14
                            swingarm: Getting spare parts for the bikes mentioned in this thread should not be a problem for the bikes mentioned in this thread... In my opinion even three years down the line spare parts should be available... As ken cool said if spare parts in an important factor please do look at the price of spare parts too and not only availability..

                            I would advise you to go for the Yamaha FZ-16 or the Apache RTR for your needs... Both these bikes are good handlers and are relatively light when compared to the zma and thus will be easier to ride in traffic/ city conditions... As you like the shogun you might like the fz-16 for its low end torque which gives the bike a good pull, you might also like the apache for its free revving engine... So, Jus give these bikes a chance and take them for a test ride... As for the backache and pillion. Take a pillion along when u go for any of the test rides... Ask them how comfortable they feel... As for the backaches fz-16 would score higher there... But i would also suggest you to check your own riding posture before test riding these bikes... As i have heard( not to sure) that the shines riding position is good and does not lead to backaches etc... Sometimes the riders posture is wrong and thus the backache... Jus practice good riding posture before testing these bikes... Hope you have fun choosing your bike...

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                            • #15
                              swingarm, as I see it's an FZ vs ZMA for you just like it was for me. Just refer to "Its 100% zma" thread on what bike to know the pro's and con's of both.

                              i bought a zma 3 weeks ago and have already finished a 1000 kms. you can imagine my average daily riding (i didn't use my bike much on off days - Holi, Weekends, etc)

                              Absolutely no back ache, it's the most wonderful and comfortable bike I've ridden till date.

                              It's a bit heavy no doubt, but I could get the hang of it in 4-5 days... have been regularly weaving in and out through the prime time Delhi Traffic with ease.

                              And there is sufficient +ve feedback about the pillion seat .

                              Only points FZ scores over Zma - the looks and fat ass tires, and excellent handling.

                              But Ppl who say FZ has great low end power aren't even considering the low end power of Zma

                              So make sure you test ride both FZ and Zma, and once with the pillion you intend to keep comfortable on the back seat
                              That might be the deciding factor - you never know
                              Tough Times Never Last.
                              Tough People Do.

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